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As Palestinians pushes for statehood, Israel finds itself more isolated

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Sunday, April 14, 2024 3:59 PM

Biden Tells Bibi: US Will Not Support A Counterattack Against Iran After Hundreds Of Drones, Missiles Sent
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-pressuring-china-turkey-saud
i-arabia-intervene-iran-halt-attack-israel


Common sense from the Biden* WH????

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

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Monday, April 15, 2024 2:25 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Biden Tells Bibi: US Will Not Support A Counterattack Against Iran After Hundreds Of Drones, Missiles Sent
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-pressuring-china-turkey-saud
i-arabia-intervene-iran-halt-attack-israel


Common sense from the Biden* WH????



No. It's not common sense.

It should have been let known to both parties that US will not support anything they do when this all started. In fact, it should have just been known before anybody started anything.

But the Biden* Administration chose this moment right now to say they weren't going to help. This was 100% purely politically motivated since Biden* is hemorrhaging Muslim voters, particularly in Michigan were they'll probably end up tanking his reelection chances.

After what Iran just did, Israel should be responding.

The Muslim dogs started this. It should end when the Muslim dogs suffer the final losses of the conflict.

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Political correctness is just tyranny, with a smiley face.

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Monday, April 15, 2024 9:08 AM

What's with this "Muslim dogs" shit?

Dood, you're as brainwashed as SECOND and THUGR, just on Muslims instead of Russians.

You've heard "Muslim ... terrorist... Muslim .... terrorist" so often it's been welded together.

Come into the light.

See reality.



P.S. The British started it.



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Monday, April 15, 2024 11:44 PM

NOTE: Israel started this latest pissing match with Iran by striking an Iranian consulate in Syria. Iran was really hoping to sit this one out, but Israel is determined to go to war with Iran to drag the us into the conflict.

Iran spanked Israel back, hard enough to let Israel know it could spank harder. After a 72-hour warning, it sent a few very credible missiles in along with a swarm of drones and rockets ... enough to overwhelm combined Israeli, British, French (and American?) air defenses and did damage to maybe a half-dozen Israeli military targets, without killing anyone.

Biden* urged Israel to "take the win" but it seems Israel wants to escalate even more.

We would do best to stay out if it. Israel shouldn't be the tail that wags the dog.

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Israel Says Readying 'Imminent' Attack On Iran As Airlines Cancel Flights To Region

Update(1329ET): It appears things are moving fast, via Israel's Channel 12 broadcaster, following the earlier conclusion of Israel's War Cabinet meeting:

THE ISRAELI AIR FORCE HAS COMPLETED ITS PREPARATION FOR AN IMMINENT ATTACK AGAINST IRAN

The Times of Israel top headline has switched to: War cabinet decides to hit Iran back hard, hopes it won’t spark regional war

A host of airlines have canceled flights to the region, including the following:

Germany’s Lufthansa has suspended its regular flights to and from Tel Aviv, Erbil, and Amman, up to and including Monday. Flights to Beirut and Tehran will remain suspended until at least Thursday.

KLM cancelled all flights to and from Tel Aviv until Tuesday, a spokesperson for the Dutch arm of Air France says.

Britain’s easyJet on Sunday paused operations to and from Tel Aviv. The carrier said in an emailed statement to Reuters that it will temporarily pause operations to and from Tel Aviv until April 21.

Wizz Air says it had cancelled most of its flights to and from Tel Aviv, Saturday through Monday.

Finnair has suspended operations in Iranian airspace until further notice, which may cause longer flight times on flights from Doha. A spokesperson said the Finnish carrier will reroute over Egypt, resulting in delays of a “few minutes.”


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Update(1225ET): Israel is looking to "send a message" against Iran, but short of causing outright war and mass casualties, a top level official has told The Washington Post. During Monday's Israel War Cabinet meeting, Prime Minister Netanyahu is reported to have requested defense leaders to draw up a list of targets.

According to Washington Post's reporting:

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has asked the Israel Defense Forces to provide target options, according to an official familiar with high-level discussions, who said Israel is looking at options that would “send a message” but not cause casualties.

Those options include a potential strike on a facility in Tehran or a cyberattack, according to the official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the talks.

“Everybody agrees that Israel must respond,” the official said. “How to respond, when to respond, is the question.”


Israeli officials are now signaling to their US counterparts that they would like the White House's backing and coordination for retaliation, however, so far President Biden has urged restraint. This weekend the president clearly said the US will not back an Israeli military attack on Iran, on fears it would spark a bigger war.

Biden has issued what appears an ambiguous statement, and Israel's military says it is preparing:

BIDEN: US COMMITTED TO ISRAEL'S SECURITY AND FOR CEASE-FIRE

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Update(1145ET): Israel's war cabinet has issued a statement, reported in the country's Channel 12 broadcaster, according to breaking reports:

Israel wants to embark on action against Iran coordinated with US, channel 12 says — Reuters

Channel 12 has cited top Israeli ministers to say that the military's object

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Sunday, April 21, 2024 10:27 AM

Looks like DC's survival instincts kicked in.

War against Iran ... possible destruction of Israel ... gas at $20/ gal ... avoided.

Historical background



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Israel Fostered The Rise Of Hamas To Preclude A Two-State Solution
Saturday, Apr 20, 2024 - 08:40 PM


Those sentiments are quite different from ones Netanyahu privately shared in 2019.

“Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas,” Netanyahu told Likud Party legislators, according to Haaretz, Israel's longest-running newspaper. Doing so would help prevent the West Bank-based Palestinian Authority (PA) from ruling Gaza and giving Palestinians a relatively moderate, unified voice at the negotiating table. “This is part of our strategy -- to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank.”

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As a former senior CIA official told UPI’s Richard Sale in 2001, Israel’s initial boosting of Hamas “was a direct attempt to divide and dilute support for a strong, secular PLO by using a competing religious alternative."
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Israel prioritized undermining the PLO-leading Fatah.



https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/israel-fostered-rise-hamas-prec
lude-two-state-solution


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Monday, May 13, 2024 12:05 AM

Fucking Israelis are as bad as the Nazis. After destroying Gaza and creating a famine there worse than the Nazi starvation of Jews in the Warsaw ghetto, and then following the fleeing Palestinians to Rafah with more death and destruction, now this ...

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UN Agency Closes Jerusalem HQ After Israeli Settler Arson Attacks
Sunday, May 12, 2024 - 04:30 AM

The attacks by settler mobs come months into a smear campaign launched by Tel Aviv to dismantle the primary humanitarian agency for Palestinian refugees


The UN Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees (UNRWA) announced on Thursday that it is shutting down its headquarters in east Jerusalem after Israeli settlers carried out an arson attack on its building.

This was the second settler attack on the UNRWA building in less than a week, according to the agency’s general commissioner, Phillipe Lazzarini.

“Our director, with the help of other staff, had to put out the fire themselves as it took the Israeli fire extinguishers and police a while before they turned up. This is an outrageous development. Once again, the lives of UN staff were at serious risk. In light of this second appalling incident in less than a week, I have taken the decision to close down our compound until proper security is restored,” Lazzarini said.
Video footage on social media showed the UNRWA building in flames as settlers were heard cheering in the background. There were no injuries, but the fires caused significant damage to property, according to WAFA news agency.


MORE, AND LINKS TO VIDEOS AT https://thecradle.co/articles/unrwa-shutters-jerusalem-hq-after-israel
i-terror-attack



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Tuesday, May 14, 2024 5:35 AM

Israel changed Joe Biden’s mind all by itself

Biden — like lots of people — has long been ardently pro-Israel and was appalled by the October 7 Hamas attacks. That's the attitude he thinks is right, and what changed it wasn't a few messy protests on college campuses. That is, after all, pretty routine stuff.

What changed it was the grotesque actions of Israel itself. A campaign of indiscriminate bombing. The casual slaughter of thousands of civilians. Complete destruction of Gaza's buildings and infrastructure. The routine murder of journalists and aid workers. The forced starvation of Gaza's people. A plan to continue doing all this in Rafah with no apparent goal other than bloody revenge. And all of it without even a rhetorical pretense that Israel gives a shit about 21st-century humanitarian concerns in the slightest way.

No one needs a bunch of protesters to draw their attention to any of this. It's all in broad daylight. Any decent person—and Joe Biden is a decent person—would be having second thoughts at the very least by this point. The reality of what Israel is doing changed both public opinion and Biden's mind. Protests likely had nothing to do with it.

https://jabberwocking.com/israel-changed-joe-bidens-mind-all-by-itself/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, May 14, 2024 6:11 AM

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Originally posted by second:
Israel changed Joe Biden’s mind all by itself

Biden — like lots of people — has long been ardently pro-Israel and was appalled by the October 7 Hamas attacks. That's the attitude he thinks is right, and what changed it wasn't a few messy protests on college campuses. That is, after all, pretty routine stuff.



Keep trying to normalize that behavior and see where it gets you.

SPOILER ALERT: 2020 was a LONG time ago and everything else outside of college campuses has changed.

Drastically.



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Trump will be fine.
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Tuesday, May 14, 2024 7:15 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
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Originally posted by second:
Israel changed Joe Biden’s mind all by itself

Biden — like lots of people — has long been ardently pro-Israel and was appalled by the October 7 Hamas attacks. That's the attitude he thinks is right, and what changed it wasn't a few messy protests on college campuses. That is, after all, pretty routine stuff.



Keep trying to normalize that behavior and see where it gets you.

SPOILER ALERT: 2020 was a LONG time ago and everything else outside of college campuses has changed.

Drastically.

Do you remember Occupy Wall Street? It was the same as these protests and accomplished the same: NOTHING. But Occupy Wall Street was also accused of being antisemitic. Polite protests and even random arson accomplish nothing and never will, but it does make people who have no idea how to change things feel better for a time, and then, when they realize they failed but don't realize they understand nothing, nothing at all, they feel worse.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupy_Wall_Street#Criticism

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Thursday, May 23, 2024 2:51 PM

First aid from US pier in Gaza has reached starving Palestinians, the UN says
https://apnews.com/article/us-aid-pier-gaza-israel-war-famine-6730e688
54c1d6d57414e5f8017786d0


Norway recognises Palestine as a state
https://www.regjeringen.no/en/

US ‘concerned’ by Israel’s isolation, Biden national security adviser says
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/may/22/israel-nationa
l-security-jake-sullivan

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