Civil War. Probably not the best movie to release in current year, but it does look pretty entertaining...
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I'll say right off the bat I'm not a fan that Nick Offerman is the lead role in this. I like him as an actor, but listening to him talk for two minutes as himself is nauseating.
My hope with this movie is that it's another "The Hunt". Something that pisses off both sides equally and nobody ends up seeing it.
The Hunt was one of the best movies made in the last 10 years that nobody has even watched. This one has potential from the little I've seen. Here's hoping that it's not some Leftist wet dream and it wasn't co-written by Offerman and he's just acting in it.
It appears to be written by the guy who wrote the excellent zombie flick 28 Days Later. It also appears that nobody who has seen the trailers can make any sense of it.
Sounds great to me. If it was something we were expecting either way that would mean given the subject matter it was more woke trash on one side or it might as well have been titled "Lady Ballers 2" from the other.
Oh... and I mentioned in the Ghostbusters thread that it doesn't have much competition besides the dumb Kong/Godzilla movie coming out soon. This comes out the same weekend the racist Don't Tell Mom The Babysitter's Dead remake. Depending on what it's actually about, I could have been very wrong when I said that about Frozen Empire's future competition.
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it looks ok but yeah politically maybe not the best time
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I'm just honestly hoping that there isn't too much real life current-year politics in it from either side. We don't need any more help riling up the crazies on either side right now.
I have a real feeling that this is a movie that you're going to love or you're going to hate and there will be no in between. But if the writer of 28 Days Later is still as good as he was back then, I might end up surprised.
What 28 Days Later Is Really About
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Well it looks like the Twitter Lefties hate the movie.
Now we'll see if the Fox News viewers hate it too and we will have The Hunt: Part II on our hands.
Fingers crossed.
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So far it scores 86% on Rotten Tomato's with 130 critics, access critic Grace Randolph has given it a poor review so that means it's likely not woke propaganda.
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So far it scores 86% on Rotten Tomato's with 130 critics, access critic Grace Randolph has given it a poor review so that means it's likely not woke propaganda.
I don't think we want to give big brain Grace too much credit here.
The only thing I know her from is some clips of her "shows" reviewing movies and outtakes of what she said about them. These movies ran the gamut from The Black Little Mermaid to Indy's Emasculation.
Not exactly high brow fair...
I don't know her, and I've never watched any of her actual shows outside of some bad takes on pop culture, so I'm not going to call Grace Randolph a dummy...
All I'm saying is that Disney was beating everybody over the head so hard with the Woke Stick they were coughing up fairy dust. Even the biggest idiot saw what Disney was doing, even if it took them a long time to finally start admitting that they knew it.
Grace Rudolph having a problem with Civil War means absolutely nothing to me because I have no idea the size of her brain or her ability to decipher anything that's above a 8th grade reading level. She comes off to me with VERY STRONG "Headline Reader" vibes and that she didn't get her following by doing anything more than repeating ideas and catch phrases she picked up from the media she regularly ingests for all those feel good chemical reactions and then regurgitates to her followers.
I'm pretty sure that the sub-title for this movie might be "Critical Thinkers Only Please". At least it will if I get what I want and it's as good as I think it can be. Having the movie Civil War made in 2024 be about a California/Texas/Florida alliance Vs. the rest of the US, at least on the surface level, is giving me some real good movie vibes.
The Hunt got buried right at the start of the pandemic, sure, but it was universally misunderstood. From what I could tell it got as much hate from the Right that it did from the Left. I believe to this day JSF and Auraptor have never seen it because of things they heard about it. And the Twitter weirdos hated it and who knows what the critics thought about it? I can't even find a listing for it on Rotten Tomatoes.
It's one of my favorite movies.
I'm tentatively excited about what this movie actually is.
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According to Bruce, the Production Budget for Civil War was only $50 Million.
I'm actually surprised it's that high, given it's an A24 flick. But this does look a little more ambitious than their average movie and A24 did well in 2023.
$50 Million is a great number if this thing does good business. It only needs $125 Million worldwide to break even, which is a lower bar than most movies we've seen so far this year, and unlike Cabrini, this one actually has a chance of drawing a big enough audience to be profitable.
It made $2.9 Million on Preview Night. That's not super impressive. Kong/Godzilla just got $10 Million on preview night. Dune: Part 2 did $12 Million. Even Frozen Empire got $4.7 Million. To be fair to Civil War though, all three of them are existing IPs that have been around for decades upon decades and Civil War is a new thing. They all cost anywhere from twice to four times to make than Civil War did though. When put up against their budgets, Civil War's preview night did better than Ghostbusters, almost kept pace with Dune: Part 2 and didn't fare as well against Kong/Godzilla. This data alone doesn't really paint much of a picture for us yet, but at least it performed better than the one out of the three that will be financial failures at the opening.
As for the movie with the same $50 Million budget, the aforementioned Cabrini, The $4.7 Million that Civil War pulled in last night is far more impressive than the $500k that Cabrini pulled in on March 7th. 940% more, in fact. Not that it's really a valid comparison, but if Civil War were to maintain that Preview Night ratio in the Box Office, than after 35 days it would be at $179,845,443. That's nearly $55 Million profit, and that's just in the US alone... and Civil War appears to have a much larger international schedule ahead of it than Cabrini did.
We know that Grace Randolph didn't like the film, but it appears to get glowing reviews by Stephen King on Twitter. His endorsement of the film carries quite a bit more weight with me than anything Grace had to say about it, and if King likes the movie I'm probably less likely to enjoy it myself. But I'm still hoping that it's far enough removed from real life that it could be an enjoyable watch for the both of us, and as indicated in my opening post that's exactly the type of movie I've been hoping this would be since I first saw the trailer.
I mean, I love The Hunt, but I'm not going to say that I loved everything about it. I think it's quite possible that Steven King liked The Hunt too if he saw it. I'd be interested to see if he ever said anything about it. I'm not experienced with trying to use Google to find quotes from specific users on Twitter. I'm sure it's possible though.
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I still don't know what to think about this movie and I'm loving it.
I don't want to know any spoilers so I'm not watching anything, but the titles for videos are all over the map so far.
TimcastIRL: A24 Civil War Movie SLAMMED As Anti Trump Film, Its CLEARLY Leftist
Alteroi: CIVIL WAR was SO BAD I wanted a REFUND
TheQuartering: Leftists MELTDOWN Over Civil War Movie (Tim Pool) For BETRAYING Them & Showing TRUTH Instead Of Lies
Disparu: Civil War Critics Reviews INSANE Rants Hate Not Being Pandered Too
I think I'm going to like this one.
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“Civil War” has little to say about America — but a lot to say about war
By Zack Beauchamp | Apr 12, 2024, 7:15am EDT
https://www.vox.com/politics/24127680/civil-war-review-alex-garland-po
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In one scene, a sniper opens fire on the reporters’ car, forcing them to take shelter beside two soldiers he’s also attacked. When the reporters ask the soldiers which side everyone is on, they scoff — explaining that he’s trying to kill them, and that’s all that matters.
That scene clarifies what the movie is really about: not how political order collapses into civil war, but what happens to a society after it does.
Civil War presents a narrative where war takes on a logic of its own. For some, the need to survive pushes them to act in ways they never would have contemplated otherwise. For others, the collapse in order creates opportunities to act on their very worst impulses — best dramatized in an unforgettable scene in which a bigoted soldier (Jesse Plemons) cruelly interrogates the main characters at gunpoint.
What a fake civil war tells us about real ones
Civil War’s grim vision reminded me, more than anything else, of an academic book: The Logic of Violence in Civil Wars by Oxford professor Stathis Kalyvas.
The book, a modern classic in the literature on civil conflict, argues that most people overestimate the degree to which patterns of violence in civil wars are driven by ideology or emotions run amok. Instead, Kalyvas argues, individual decisions are often made based on calculations of rational self-interest — starting with survival.
Kalyvas’s treatment of the relationship between violence and civilian behavior is particularly noteworthy.
As we know from American experiences in Iraq and Afghanistan, winning the support of the local civilian population is critically important in determining who wins a civil war. Drawing on data from the 1940s Greek Civil War, Kalyvas argues that civilians make decisions about cooperation based primarily on perceptions of who is in control of the territory in which they live. Basically, they’re most likely to cooperate if they think that side will have the power to keep them safe and advance their other interests.
Civilian cooperation then shapes how combatants use force, as informers tell them where their enemies are hiding or who in the civilian population supports the opposing side. How combatants act on this information in turn shapes civilians’ views, affecting their future decisions to cooperate or not. Violence is, in Kalyvas’s language, a “joint process”: Who lives and who dies is determined by the interplay of civilian and combatant actions, all rooted in perceptions of rational self-interest.
This is basically how the world in Civil War works. Characters make choices not about ideology or partisanship, but about how best to advance their interests in a country defined by who’s trying to kill them and who isn’t. I can’t recall a single scene where anyone makes an ideological statement about the nature of the American civil war and why they’re fighting it.
Such a film has little to say about contemporary American politics. But the imagery and places may help American audiences connect more easily to the subtler story it’s actually telling: about how people in real-life civil wars make life into hell for the people caught up in them.
It is less a film about political polarization, or even the headline-dominating wars in Gaza and Ukraine, than one about the long and bloody counterinsurgency wars that defined the war on terror era.
In that respect, Civil War should make Americans think less about our own contemporary problems and more about the suffering we so recently inflicted on others.
Download Stathis Kalyvas’s book for free from the mirrors at https://libgen.is//search.php?req=Stathis+Kalyvas
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Let's see...
Twitter Lefties in general don't like Civil War because it doesn't preach the narrative.
Grace Randlolph was not impressed.
JSF was not impressed.
Critical Drinker thought it pointless.
Nerdrotic was bored.
Steven King loved it.
Well... Nerdrotic is a dummy. Critical Drinker has started attacking movies that he doesn't need to attack since his grift is slowing down with the dearth of movies coming out of Hollywood at this point.
I'm hoping that Dave Cullen watches it and posts a review.
Because right now out of a list of people all over the map politically, almost everyone is bitching about the movie except for the guy who has spent his life writing 60 novels that all went on to be worldwide bestsellers. Sure, he's woke to the point I can sometimes gag reading stuff he has to say on Twitter, but he's the only one from the Left I've seen praise the movie.
I absolutely will be seeing this at some point. It's going to be interesting to see who I agree with.
In the meantime, I'm not actually going to watch any reviews by anyone. I'm just taking their opinions from how they title their review videos.
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