Compliance can't make a functional society: What Orwell And Huxley Got Wrong And Kafka Got Right
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The real question is, can Second have a single conversation without injecting Trump into it?
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Political correctness is just tyranny, with a smiley face.
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
The real question is, can Second have a single conversation without injecting Trump into it?
The question is, can SECOND have a single conversation?
The guy acts like an internet zombie who's been living in a dark room staring at a screen for years. That's why I keep advising him to get out into the fresh air and sunshine and DO SOMETHING he can be proud of. He'd feel a lot better for sure.
Unless he's just a natural born sociopath/ psychopath in which case he's kinda stuck with himself.
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Anyway, my point is that the United States can muddle along dysfunctionally and do as well as it has but ONLY WITH THE FOREBEARANCE OF THE REST OF THE WORLD. But it's like we're living on a giant international credit card that the rest of the world can cut off any moment.
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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger
Why SECOND'S posts are brainless: "I clocked how much time: no more than 10 minutes per day. With cut-and-paste (Ctrl C and Ctrl V) and AI, none of this takes much time."
Or, any verification or thought.
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Personally, I think if something happened that just destroyed all technology it would be the best thing to happen to the planet, including people.
What's it all done for anybody other than make life last twice as long and easy enough where we get to make up a bunch of problems. Maybe some other species out there could improve as technology improved, but we're not it.
As for the other countries cutting us off, I'm fine with that. It's not going to make their lives any better either.
We've got everything we need to live here. We need to cut everyone else off and fortify the defenses here. Let the rest of the world deal with their own problems.
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Quote:There's a lot of technology I wouldn't want to do without, like fire, indoor plumbing, and air conditioning. What level of technology do you think would be more helpful, and what point does it become a hinderance?
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Personally, I think if something happened that just destroyed all technology it would be the best thing to happen to the planet, including people.
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What's it all done for anybody other than make life last twice as long and easy enough where we get to make up a bunch of problems. Maybe some other species out there could improve as technology improved, but we're not it.
A large part of the problem is "who is making the decisions" to jump into a specific technology? Right now, it's venture capitalists, startups, and governments (including China) looking for The Next Big Thing to make $$$$. They don't care what the ultimate effect is.
Quote:I agree that it would be better for us in the long run. But it would be a helluva transition. Altho we have a lot of resources we don't have the manufacturing capacity for even the most basic industries like steel- making. And TPTB won't invest in the USA. They'll just take their $$$ and convert it to whatever currency they can and speculate elsewhere, pretty much abandoning us. And our government, beholden to big $$$, would go along with it.
As for the other countries cutting us off, I'm fine with that. It's not going to make their lives any better either.
We've got everything we need to live here. We need to cut everyone else off and fortify the defenses here. Let the rest of the world deal with their own problems. [/
I imagine 20 years of giant clusterfuck, and it could easily go to outright tyranny, like what happened in Germany under Hitler. "Never let a good crisis go to waste " is the operating principal of our government, and this would be a crisis like we've never seen in our entire national history.
It would take a giant remake of our government and its policies, like what happened in Russia under Putin: half-nationalization (government is 51 -100% shareholder of oil, gas, weapons, civil aeronautics, mining, shipping and ship building, telecoms including satellites, banking and bank insurance, electric energy and nuclear power etc) by a government DETERMINED to rebuild America. Not just economically but socially.
Not the quislings who currently infest DC.
A political revolution, if not an actual one.
The next challenge after that is, having handed government a huge amount of power, keeping the government clean and honest.
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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger
Why SECOND'S posts are brainless: "I clocked how much time: no more than 10 minutes per day. With cut-and-paste (Ctrl C and Ctrl V) and AI, none of this takes much time."
Or, any verification or thought.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:There's a lot of technology I wouldn't want to do without, like fire, indoor plumbing, and air conditioning. What level of technology do you think would be more helpful, and what point does it become a hinderance?
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Personally, I think if something happened that just destroyed all technology it would be the best thing to happen to the planet, including people.
I'm thinking anything that involves any sort of micro-processing. I think everything that you and I would want to live with would still be available to us once the withdrawal from all things internet wore off.
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What's it all done for anybody other than make life last twice as long and easy enough where we get to make up a bunch of problems. Maybe some other species out there could improve as technology improved, but we're not it.
A large part of the problem is "who is making the decisions" to jump into a specific technology? Right now, it's venture capitalists, startups, and governments (including China) looking for The Next Big Thing to make $$$$. They don't care what the ultimate effect is.
We will never have responsible people in charge of technology. It's one of the reasons we shouldn't have it. Arguably the main reason.
Quote:Quote:I agree that it would be better for us in the long run. But it would be a helluva transition. Altho we have a lot of resources we don't have the manufacturing capacity for even the most basic industries like steel- making. And TPTB won't invest in the USA. They'll just take their $$$ and convert it to whatever currency they can and speculate elsewhere, pretty much abandoning us. And our government, beholden to big $$$, would go along with it.
As for the other countries cutting us off, I'm fine with that. It's not going to make their lives any better either.
We've got everything we need to live here. We need to cut everyone else off and fortify the defenses here. Let the rest of the world deal with their own problems. [/
None of the actual solutions to any of our problems are going to be painless and easy.
That's why nothing will ever be done until it's too late.
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I imagine 20 years of giant clusterfuck, and it could easily go to outright tyranny, like what happened in Germany under Hitler. "Never let a good crisis go to waste " is the operating principal of our government, and this would be a crisis like we've never seen in our entire national history.
It would take a giant remake of our government and its policies, like what happened in Russia under Putin: half-nationalization (government is 51 -100% shareholder of oil, gas, weapons, civil aeronautics, mining, shipping and ship building, telecoms including satellites, banking and bank insurance, electric energy and nuclear power etc) by a government DETERMINED to rebuild America. Not just economically but socially.
Not the quislings who currently infest DC.
A political revolution, if not an actual one.
The next challenge after that is, having handed government a huge amount of power, keeping the government clean and honest.
That's why I'll just keep doing what I'm doing and focusing on things I have control over. The wrong people are always going to be in control of everything. Why spend my time worrying about that? I feel bad for anybody with kids who have a reason to though.
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I think maybe Rival Counties and Parish in a game or bid, Family Business vs other business, the Competition, an enterprise created by workers, individuals, stockholders, shareholders and designers in contest against other Corporations in a Free and Fair market...not crony capitalism, but both Big and Small Business and the States running against each other to see who have the best ideas and all of that is a fine idea but 'Compliance'...misconduct delinquency troublemaking revolt DO NOT COMPLY! the Compiance termis not a word I would use, its just too much for me, and describe the wrong stuff like a stubborn angry creature freaking out in the animal kingdom
I don't normally agree with Jimmy Kimmel
but he's correct the West is becoming a filthy disgusting schizo degenerate sh**hole
while other places are CLEAN and FUNCTIONAL
the sh**-hole remark by Trump?
If Trump said that...soon it might have to add USA and other Western nations to the list of 'Countries'
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Jimmy Kimmel also said that people who didn't get a Covid vaccination should be denied life-saving medical treatment.
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Also though, my neighborhood is fine. I live in a Republican ran state and I'm 150 miles away from Democrat shithole Indianapolis. We don't have bums living out on the street and shit and hypodermic needles lying around everywhere.
It's not as if the entire country is becoming a "filthy disgusting schizo degenerate sh**hole". But there are very large pockets containing a very large portion of the electorate that live in such places.
At least, for now, it hasn't bled very much into the suburbs.
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Quote:It is revealing that Trumptard-controlled states strongly tend to have lower incomes compared to Democrat controlled.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Also though, my neighborhood is fine. I live in a Republican ran state and I'm 150 miles away from Democrat shithole Indianapolis. We don't have bums living out on the street and shit and hypodermic needles lying around everywhere.
It's not as if the entire country is becoming a "filthy disgusting schizo degenerate sh**hole". But there are very large pockets containing a very large portion of the electorate that live in such places.
At least, for now, it hasn't bled very much into the suburbs.
Map Reveals States Where People Earn Most, Least Money
Published Apr 04, 2024 at 11:31 AM EDT
https://www.newsweek.com/map-states-rich-poor-earn-money-1886945
In a Trumptard-controlled state like Texas, most of the economic activity is in the counties controlled by the Democrats, not the Trumptards:
Biden-voting counties equal 70% of America’s economy. What does this mean for the nation’s political-economic divide?
By Mark Muro, Eli Byerly-Duke, Yang You, and Robert Maxim | November 10, 2020
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/biden-voting-counties-equal-70-of-a
mericas-economy-what-does-this-mean-for-the-nations-political-economic-divide/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Economic performance is stronger when Democrats hold the White House
By Josh Bivens • April 2, 2024
https://www.epi.org/publication/econ-performance-pres-admin/
Summary: The economy performs much better during Democratic presidential administrations than during Republican ones.
Key findings
• Since 1949, there has been a Democratic advantage in the average performance of key macroeconomic indicators measuring economic health, including:
Gross Domestic Product (GDP) growth
Job growth
Unemployment rate
Growth in inflation-adjusted wages
Growth of market-based incomes per capita
Inflation
Interest rates
• This Democratic advantage is across the board in all variables we measure but strongest in private-sector outcomes—notably, business investment, job growth, and the growth of market-based incomes.
• Household income growth (adjusted for inflation) was faster on average and far more equal during Democratic administrations, and the Democratic advantage shows up for every group.
Why this matters
We suspect that the simple facts on economic performance during Democratic and Republican administrations aren’t well known. Providing accurate economic information at a time of rampant misinformation supports an informed citizenry.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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