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Saturday, March 23, 2024 5:01 PM

North Atlantic Sea Surface Temperature Anomaly: 1982 to March 21, 2024

https://twitter.com/EliotJacobson/status/1771201408978534415

https://jabberwocking.com/the-north-atlantic-meltdown-is-getting-even-
worse
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Monday, March 25, 2024 5:40 PM

The world’s biggest clean energy plant

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/03/19/business/india-adani-green-energy-p
lant-climate-intl-hnk/index.html


The success of the Khavda Renewable Energy Park is critical to India’s efforts to reduce pollution and hit its climate goals while meeting the burgeoning energy needs of the world’s most populous nation and fastest-growing major economy. Coal still accounts for 70% of the electricity India generates.

India is comfortably placed to grow at an annual rate of at least 6% in the coming few years, analysts say, and may become the world’s third largest economy before the end of this decade.

As it develops and modernizes, its urban population will shoot up, leading to a massive rise in the construction of homes, offices, shops and other buildings. According to analysts, India is set to add the equivalent of a London to its urban population every year for the next 30 years.

Electricity demand is expected to skyrocket in the coming years because of factors ranging from improved living standards to climate change. The latter has been fueling deadly heatwaves across India, and as a result, air conditioner ownership is set to see a sharp spike in the coming years.

By 2050, India’s total electricity demand from residential air conditioners is set to exceed the total energy consumption in the whole of Africa today, the IEA said.

India cannot rely on fossil fuels for its burgeoning needs without disastrous consequences for efforts to tackle the climate crisis.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Monday, March 25, 2024 9:43 PM

Sounds to me like we should be talking about population control and not talking about fairy tales.

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Political correctness is just tyranny, with a smiley face.

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Thursday, March 28, 2024 1:03 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Sounds to me like we should be talking about population control and not talking about fairy tales.

Did you notice that he is bragging about how they have cranked up the costs of energy so much that reliable cheap energy is now more expensive than the outrageously expensive renewables?
As soon as Trump takes office again, the bottom will drop out of the Fake Renewable Market.

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Monday, April 1, 2024 9:04 PM

Climate Change Indicators: U.S. Green House Gas Emissions

Angry Bear | April 1, 2024 7:00 am

https://angrybearblog.com/2024/04/climate-change-indicators-u-s-green-
house-gas-emissions






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Wednesday, April 3, 2024 4:13 PM

The consensus is in: cooling the planet will be impossible without direct human intervention.

By Gwynne Dyer | 8:32, Apr. 1, 2024

https://thewalrus.ca/seven-truths-climate-crisis/

As the climate crisis deepens and the negative impacts multiply, public opinion and politics are finally responding, but there is no guarantee that our actions will be big and fast enough to avoid an outcome that is catastrophic for human beings and quite disruptive, at least, for the entire biosphere. We are not even sure yet how big and how fast those actions need to be, because the discipline of climate science is only about forty years old. But the answer is almost certainly: very big and very fast.

“How extreme it could get,” says Tim Lenton, professor of climate change and earth system science at the University of Exeter, “depends on two main things: how intent we are on burning all the fossil fuels we already know about and how sensitive the Earth’s climate is to that carbon injection. We could get to 8°C of warming fairly readily, but we probably wouldn’t, because it would be so catastrophic well before we reached that point that it would terminate our activities. We are still able to trigger warming of the order of 5°C globally, burning only a fraction of the fossil fuels, if we consider the feedbacks and tipping points. Very sobering for those of us who work on this day in, day out.”

Scientists can now predict with some confidence how much extra carbon dioxide in the atmosphere will cause how much warming: there is still a range of possibilities, but the range has narrowed, and all the possibilities past 450 parts per million (ppm) of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere are bad.

We are coming up on 425 ppm and adding 2.4 ppm a year.

Almost nobody in the climate science community really believes anymore that we can stop the warming at a place that is relatively safe without direct human intervention of some sort in the climate system. Doing so merely by cutting emissions and planting lots of trees would have been possible (with a huge crash programme) in the year 2000, and it was still imaginable (just) in 2010, but it now hardly seems credible.

Just as an aide-mémoire, these are the inconvenient facts that we must always bear in mind.

We Are Running Out of Time

Actually, we probably have run out of time. Like soon-to-be bankrupts, we can go on fiddling the books for a while longer, but we cannot stay below the 1.5°C higher average global temperature that was our recommended maximum increase according to the Paris Climate Agreement of 2015. As Johan Rockström, director of the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research, told me in 2020: “We have been lulling ourselves into a comfort zone, believing we have a lot of time, but 2020 is the year when we need to bend the curve down on global emissions.?.?.?.?You cannot succeed if you bend later.?.?.?.?If you bend later, the speed by which we have to reduce emissions is no longer possible to achieve in any democratic way. You would simply have to bulldoze every coal-fired plant overnight.”

Much more at https://thewalrus.ca/seven-truths-climate-crisis/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Thursday, April 11, 2024 2:50 PM

Global surface temperatures in March were 0.1C higher than the previous record for the month, set in 2016, and 1.68C higher than the pre-industrial average, according to data released on Tuesday by the Copernicus Climate Change Service.

https://climate.copernicus.eu/climate-bulletins#55c9d9ab-fb45-4667-94b
0-084c3423879b


This is the 10th consecutive monthly record in a warming phase that has shattered all previous records. Over the past 12 months, average global temperatures have been 1.58C above pre-industrial levels. This exceeds the 1.5C benchmark set as a target in the Paris climate agreement.

“Stopping further warming requires rapid reductions in greenhouse gas emissions,” said Samantha Burgess, the deputy director of the Copernicus Climate Change Service.

Michael E Mann, the scientist whose 1999 “hockey-stick graph” showed the sharp rise in global temperatures since the industrial age, said the current trends were to be expected given the continuing rise in emissions. But he said that should not be a source of comfort. “The world is warming AS FAST as we predicted – and that’s bad enough,” he tweeted.

Opposition to this view comes not from science, but the fossil fuel industry – in particular the 57 companies linked to 80% of emissions – which stands to lose trillions of dollars. Last month, Saudi Aramco chief executive Amin Nasser was applauded at an oil industry conference in Houston for declaring: “We should abandon the fantasy of phasing out oil and gas.” This was despite the fact that his country and others had agreed just four months earlier to move away from fossil fuels at the Cop28 climate summit in Dubai.

https://www.theguardian.com/global/2024/apr/09/tenth-consecutive-month
ly-heat-record-alarms-confounds-climate-scientists




The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Thursday, April 11, 2024 3:31 PM

You should see the sea surface temperature.


Yanno, probably the reason why people resist the thought of global climate change isn't so much thst they doubt the science, it's that all of the "solutions" put forward by TPTB always seem to threaten their standard of living, as low as it might be.

For people who have air conditioning, it's "don't use A/C". For people who can afford to eat meat, it's "eat bugs". For people who can't even afford to eat meat, it's "die, already".

I'll bet if you told people that you could make a good start on solving climate shift problem by killing off the richest million people, ending war, and employing a crap ton of people at reasonable wages for forest management, better- if more labor-intensive - farming practices, and remediating old houses to be energy efficient, they'd be a lot happier if you told them that commuter cars would be limited to 3000 lbs and trucks and vans would only be sold for legitimate business purposes.


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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

Why SECOND'S posts are brainless: "I clocked how much time: no more than 10 minutes per day. With cut-and-paste (Ctrl C and Ctrl V) and AI, none of this takes much time."
Or, any verification or thought.

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Thursday, April 11, 2024 7:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
You should see the sea surface temperature.

Yanno, probably the reason why people resist the thought of global climate change isn't so much thst they doubt the science, it's that all of the "solutions" put forward by TPTB always seem to threaten their standard of living, as low as it might be.

For people who have air conditioning, it's "don't use A/C". For people who can afford to eat meat, it's "eat bugs". For people who can't even afford to eat meat, it's "die, already".

I'll bet if you told people that you could make a good start on solving climate shift problem by killing off the richest million people, ending war, and employing a crap ton of people at reasonable wages for forest management, better- if more labor-intensive - farming practices, and remediating old houses to be energy efficient, they'd be a lot happier if you told them that commuter cars would be limited to 3000 lbs and trucks and vans would only be sold for legitimate business purposes.


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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

Why SECOND'S posts are brainless: "I clocked how much time: no more than 10 minutes per day. With cut-and-paste (Ctrl C and Ctrl V) and AI, none of this takes much time."
Or, any verification or thought.

Signym, your angry poor white trash orientation is showing. Trump and Putin know how to manipulate your psychology.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, April 11, 2024 11:43 PM


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
You should see the sea surface temperature.

Yanno, probably the reason why people resist the thought of global climate change isn't so much thst they doubt the science, it's that all of the "solutions" put forward by TPTB always seem to threaten their standard of living, as low as it might be.

For people who have air conditioning, it's "don't use A/C". For people who can afford to eat meat, it's "eat bugs". For people who can't even afford to eat meat, it's "die, already".

I'll bet if you told people that you could make a good start on solving climate shift problem by killing off the richest million people, ending war, and employing a crap ton of people at reasonable wages for forest management, better- if more labor-intensive - farming practices, and remediating old houses to be energy efficient, they'd be a lot happier if you told them that commuter cars would be limited to 3000 lbs and trucks and vans would only be sold for legitimate business purposes.


SECOND: Signym, your angry poor white trash orientation is showing. Trump and Putin know how to manipulate your psychology.



You can't come up with a rational response, and you feel threatened, so you resort to name-calling?
Of course. It's what you do.

The wealthiest use more resources and create more global warming emissions than everyone else. Case in point: One space joyride emits more GHGS than the poorest BILLION people do in a year. And how 'bout those private jets and yachts, hmmm??? Their control of policy that got us in this mess in the first place?

War: The Pentagon is the single biggest institutional emitter of GHCs in the ENTIRE WORLD. Now take into account all the production of war materiel, not only by our MIC but all of the militaries around the world who are preparing to defend themselves. If we could reduce the Pentagon to its original function .. defened our borders -currently undefended ... we could reduce our own emissions by 90%.

Forestry: One bad forest fire year in CA undid 18 YEARS of CA decarbonization. 18:1. Hard to find a ROI better than that! Multiply that by however many states have vulnerable forests. And it's not CA state forests that burned, it was Federally "managed" forests.

I do recommend that ordinary people sacrifice, too. Those trucks and passenger vans and SUVs that haul a couple of tons (or more) pf vehicle around to get groceries from the supermarket? Totally unnecessary luxury. And if you should unexpectedly need to haul a load of furniture or take the extended family on a road trip ... there's always rental.

Let's tackle the biggest problems and hte biggest emitteres first in a rational, sincere, and effective effort to slow down climate change, not pick on "little people" in a naked power- and money-grab by the already obscenely powerful.


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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

Why SECOND'S posts are brainless: "I clocked how much time: no more than 10 minutes per day. With cut-and-paste (Ctrl C and Ctrl V) and AI, none of this takes much time."
Or, any verification or thought.

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