Russia says 60 dead, 145 injured in concert hall raid; Islamic State group claims responsibility
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UPDATED: Sunday, March 29, 2026 18:50
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Stay on topic.
You've got a billion other Muh Russia! threads you can post your dumb shit in. I'm not bothering to even click on those anymore, so have at it.
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Quote:Russians have killed tens of millions of Russians. To Russia, lifeblood is as cheap as vodka. A concert hall with 137 dead Russians is no bigger tragedy than 137 broken cases full of 100-proof vodka. Such a waste of good alcohol! But dead Russians are a convenient excuse for Putin to blame it on the US and the EU and, eventually, an excuse to invade the rest of Europe once Russia finishes off Ukraine.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Stay on topic.
You've got a billion other Muh Russia! threads you can post your dumb shit in. I'm not bothering to even click on those anymore, so have at it.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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That's quite the imagination you've got there.
Maybe if Europe didn't allow all the Muslim dogs into their countries they'd have nothing to worry about then.
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Quote:That is a typical Trumptard response from you. After 9-11, all the Trumptards I knew (revealing their true allegiance in 2016) wanted to murder Muslims. That kind of stupidity cost the USA $trillions:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
That's quite the imagination you've got there.
Maybe if Europe didn't allow all the Muslim dogs into their countries they'd have nothing to worry about then.
$2.313 trillion for Afghanistan War
https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/figures/2021/human-and-budgetary-c
osts-date-us-war-afghanistan-2001-2022
$2.89 trillion for Iraq War
https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/papers/2023/IraqSyria20
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko said that the Crocus City Hall attackers originally fled toward Belarus not Ukraine, directly undermining the Kremlin narrative on Ukraine’s involvement, possibly to head off questions about why the attackers headed toward Belarus in the first place. During a visit to Belarus’ northwestern Ashmyany raion on March 26, Lukashenko reported that the Crocus City Hall attackers may have been planning to escape Russia’s Bryansk Oblast to Belarus, but that Belarus introduced a heightened security regime that forced the attackers to change course towards the Russia-Ukraine border.[1] Lukashenko stated that the attackers “couldn’t enter Belarus” and praised high levels of cooperation between Russian and Belarusian special services for leading to the attackers’ arrests. Lukashenko’s suggestion that the attackers were heading towards Belarus before Belarusian and Russian special services forced them to change direction flatly contradicts Russian President Vladimir Putin’s claims regarding the attackers’ planned escape. Putin addressed the Russian Federation on March 23 following the March 22 Crocus City Hall terror attack and claimed that the attackers had “contacts” who had prepared a “window” for their exfiltration across the border into Ukraine, a claim for which there is no evidence that has become central to the Kremlin’s baseless accusations that Ukraine was involved in or responsible for the attack.[2] Geolocated footage from March 23 shows Russian personnel capturing the four attackers in a forest area along the E101 highway about 20 kilometers southeast of Bryansk City, Bryansk Oblast.[3] The geolocated place of capture is about 95 kilometers from the Ukrainian border at the closest point, or 130 kilometers from where the E101 crosses into Ukraine. This point is notably about 124 kilometers from the Belarusian border, and about 25 kilometers away from the A-240 highway that runs to Gomel, Belarus. Lukashenko’s statement about the activation of Belarusian personnel suggests a scenario in which the attackers were initially traveling along the A-240 highway towards Belarus but saw roadblocks or other deterrents and shifted their course east through forest roads to the E101 route.
Lukashenko has very little evident incentive to lie about the facts of the attack in this way. The suggestion that the attackers were traveling towards Belarus, presumably to seek refuge there, could have damaging political consequences for Lukashenko and his regime as it would raise questions about why they thought they would be safer in Belarus and who they thought might receive them there. Lukashenko may therefore have desired to preempt discussions about the attackers’ hypothetical links to Belarus by saying that Belarusian forces were instrumental in leading to their arrests. While Lukashenko’s claim subverts the standing Kremlin narrative, it reduces his vulnerability to Kremlin efforts to use non-public information about the attackers’ original escape plans to pressure him in the future.
Russian President Vladimir Putin and other senior Kremlin officials appear to be struggling to maintain a consistent rhetorical line about the Crocus City Hall attack, indicating that the Kremlin has not fully figured out how to reconcile its information operations with the reality of its intelligence and law enforcement failure. Putin and other senior officials have not fully coalesced around the false narrative that Ukraine somehow conducted the March 22 attack on the Crocus concert venue for which the Islamic State has claimed responsibility. Putin directly suggested that the attackers were connected to Ukraine in his March 23 address following the attack.[4] Putin then addressed the board of the Russian General Prosecutor’s Office on March 26 and referenced the Crocus attack, calling for the Prosecutor General’s Office to establish all the facts of the case but not implicitly or explicitly blaming Ukraine for the attack.[5] Putin only mentioned the Ukrainian government once during an unrelated part of the addr
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SECOND: Signym, you lied again by excluding words spoken by Putin's mouthpieces in the media and by only including words spoken by Putin.
I excluded words NOT spoken by Putin because you posted "Putin blamed...". If you didn't mean Putin you should have said so.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:That is a typical Trumptard response from you. After 9-11, all the Trumptards I knew (revealing their true allegiance in 2016) wanted to murder Muslims. That kind of stupidity cost the USA $trillions:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
That's quite the imagination you've got there.
Maybe if Europe didn't allow all the Muslim dogs into their countries they'd have nothing to worry about then.
$2.313 trillion for Afghanistan War
https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/figures/2021/human-and-budgetary-c
osts-date-us-war-afghanistan-2001-2022
$2.89 trillion for Iraq War
https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/papers/2023/IraqSyria20
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Yup. That used to mean something.
We throw that away in a single year with nothing to show for it these days.
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Quote:Trump added $8.4 trillion to the national debt and yet I didn't hear complaints from the stereotypical Trumptard about it.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Yup. That used to mean something.
We throw that away in a single year with nothing to show for it these days.
https://thehill.com/business/4426965-trump-added-8-4-trillion-to-the-n
ational-debt-analysis/
At this moment, the Debt is $34.6 trillion. The Trump increase in debt of $8.4 trillion is a substantial amount of the total Debt. And Trump did it in only 4 years!
Bravo! Hurrah! He is truly the King of Debt!
https://fiscaldata.treasury.gov/americas-finance-guide/national-debt/
Even more fascinating, Trump paid $750 in US income taxes in 2016, 2017
https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-business-ny-state-wire-ap-top-
news-nyc-wire-f0e2af5f9f99de9d30dc6b9097121188
Funny how Trump can pay only $1,500 in taxes, but increase the National Debt by $8.4 trillion, and yet the stereotypical Trumptard doesn't see what is wrong with Trump.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Trump added $8.4 trillion to the national debt and yet I didn't hear complaints from the stereotypical Trumptard about it.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Yup. That used to mean something.
We throw that away in a single year with nothing to show for it these days.
Yeah. You keep "forgetting" how much of that was after Democrats worked with China to unleash Covid on America because there was zero chance they were going to win the 2020 election before they derailed literally every life in the entire world for years.
And now, ever since then, we just piss away trillions every year without thinking about it and the country is falling to shit anyhow.
Whatever.
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What points to ISIS?
Well, they said they did it. Or SOMEBODY said ISIS-K did it. ISIS-K is the ISIS offshoot of Khorasan, active in the region of south central Asia (in the 'stans)
At least one of the suspects is supposedly Tajik.
What points away from ISIS?
Previous terror attacks end with terrorists "martyring" themselves, i.e. in a shootout, blowing themselves up, or crashing a plane. They don't run away.
One of the suspects supposedly said his family was paid. So if true, it doesn't matter who the suspects were or where they came from, the real question (if this was "terror for hire") would be "Who paid them"?
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If it's true that some, or all, were paid, then it doesn't matter where they came from or who claims responsibility.
FOLLOW THE MONEY.
So, just to follow up and contrast coverage...
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Investigators establish link between Moscow terrorist attack suspects and Ukrainian nationalists
Large sums of money were transferred to the Crocus City Hall attackers from Ukraine, the Russian Investigative Committee has said
The suspects in last week’s Moscow terrorist attack were linked to Ukrainian nationalists, the Russian Investigative Committee stated on Thursday, citing preliminary findings. The perpetrators had received “significant sums of money” from Ukraine, the law enforcement agency said.
Investigators have obtained “substantiated evidence” that the suspected assailants received funding from Ukraine in the form of cryptocurrency, which was then used to prepare the terrorist attack, the statement read.
Law enforcement officers have also identified and detained another suspect who was allegedly involved in financing the attack, the Investigative Committee said, without identifying the individual.
MORE AT https://www.rt.com/russia/595075-moscow-crocus-attack-money-ukraine/
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People [who?] close to Vladimir Putin are skeptical that Ukraine was behind the attack on Crocus City Hall, according to Bloomberg. The news outlet's sources [Does anyone really think that sources close to the Kremlin would share with Bloomberg?] suggest [weasel word] that Kremlin officials were "shocked" by what they view as a lapse in the effectiveness of the Russian intelligence services. It's reported that nearly 140 people were killed and another 182 injured in the incident.
MORE AT https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/kremlin-doubts-ukraine-s-role-in-
crocus-city-hall-attack-citing-intelligence-failures/ar-BB1kE3fX
As I've posted elsewhere, it's doubtful that a movement in Afghanistan, a dirt-poor country governed by the Taliban which is still consolidating its power- would have either the support OR THE MONEY to fund this attack and train and pay the attackers. Clearly this was a "sponsored" event. My original thought was Turkeye as the sponsor. I still wouldn't be surprised if Turkish individuals were involved.
But the official Russian word says Ukrainian nationalists. With all the $$ sloshing around the inner circles in Ukraine, I wouldn't be surprised by that either.
IMHO ISIS-K itself acted as a "terror for hire" organization, seeking to boost its street cred and bank account by being involved and claiming responsibility, but not the main instigators, having neither the reach nor the $$.
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