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Russia says 60 dead, 145 injured in concert hall raid; Islamic State group claims responsibility

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Tuesday, March 26, 2024 5:31 PM

Russia’s Vengeful Turn

Putin rose to power on a promise to get tough on terrorists: The former KGB officer was a relative political unknown when he pledged in 1999 to “waste” Chechen separatists.

That threat followed a series of apartment bombings in Russia that claimed hundreds of lives and touched off weeks of nationwide panic. Putin would follow through on his threat with the invasion of breakaway Chechnya, a move that vaulted him to the position of Russia’s tough-guy-in-charge, an image that would help him secure undisputed power.

The second war in Chechnya was a brutal affair, and human-rights activists documented the appearance of so-called “filtration camps” where civilians were routinely subjected to humiliation, torture and sometimes extrajudicial execution. Russian troops repeated the practice in occupied parts of Ukraine.

The ugly conduct of Russian security forces in both Chechnya and Ukraine has often remained out of public view, at least when it came to the narrative promoted through official Russian media. But after Friday’s Crocus City attack, the brutality of Russian security services appeared on naked display.

Video footage and still images that have surfaced on Russian social media appear to show the violent interrogation of several of the men alleged to have taken part in the terror attack. One video appears to show one of the suspects, Saidakrami Rachabalizoda, being pushed face-down to the ground while having part of his ear severed by an interrogator. A pro-Kremlin Telegram channel published a still photograph that appeared to show the electrocution of another.

The response to this? Open gloating on the part of some prominent, Kremlin-connected figures.

Margarita Simonyan, the editor-in-chief of Russian state propaganda network RT, approvingly posted a video on the Russian social network VK that appeared to show a suspect in the Crocus City attack quaking while being questioned by interrogators. And in a separate post on X, Simonyan posted video of a handcuffed suspect being brought into court while bent over by security officials and a video of Rachabalizoda in court with a bandaged ear.

“I never expected this from myself, but when I see how they are brought into court bent over, and even this [severed] ear, I feel nothing but pleasure,” she wrote.

The Kremlin’s silence on the matter has been telling, with Peskov declining to comment when asked about the evidence of abuse of suspects. It sends a message to ordinary Russians – and the world – that Russian state security forces are capable of anything.

Dmitry Medvedev, Russia’s former president and placeholder for Putin during a four-year interregnum, was characteristically militant in his comments on the tragedy. “Everyone asks me, what is to be done?” Medvedev said, according to Russian state news agency TASS. “They were caught. Well done to everyone who caught them.

“Should they be killed?” Medvedev continued. “Definitely. And that will happen. But it is even more important to kill everyone involved. Everyone. Who paid, who sympathized, who helped. Kill them all.”

More at https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-s-political-class-is-takin
g-a-dark-and-vengeful-turn/ar-BB1kvYlF


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Tuesday, March 26, 2024 8:17 PM

Nobody seems to have noticed that Turkeye was involved.

Yanno, this "ISIS-K" stuff is weird.

It's listed as being based in z
Afghanistan.

Isn't the Taliban in control there? And doesn't seem strange that another Muslim group is seeking power in a nation where the nominal leaders themselves are still consolidating their own power? I would think that the Taliban would want to crush any offshoot as a potential threat

Secondly, this terror attack was done for money. One guy said the equivalent of $5000USD. Doesn't sound like a lot of $$ to us, but that is a princely sum in those parts. And then, since there were four, possibly six , multiply that princely sum into probably unachievable wealth (in rubles, nonetheless).

The money must have come from a wealthier nation, and one with access to rubles.

ISIS-K sounds like it's being sponsored by somebody else, certainly not Afghanistan.

For some reason, Turkeye and Erdogon come to mind. Erdogon has for years lusted after re-creating the Ottoman empire, which stretches across the 'stans. Turkic- speaking people stretch all the way into Xinjiang, China. Erdogon has been funding pro-Turkic groups for decades.

Attacking Russia? Well, he has bitten the hands that feed him,more than once

Since the training camp in Istanbul was rounded up right quick, it'll be interesting if Erdogon makes them avail to the Russians for questioning or if this was a "leave no loose strings behind" move.

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Tuesday, March 26, 2024 8:29 PM

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Originally posted by second:
Russia’s Vengeful Turn

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Dmitry Medvedev, Russia’s former president and placeholder for Putin during a four-year interregnum, was characteristically militant in his comments on the tragedy. “Everyone asks me, what is to be done?” Medvedev said, according to Russian state news agency TASS. “They were caught. Well done to everyone who caught them.

“Should they be killed?” Medvedev continued. “Definitely. And that will happen. But it is even more important to kill everyone involved. Everyone. Who paid, who sympathized, who helped. Kill them all.”



Indeed.

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Tuesday, March 26, 2024 8:52 PM

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Indeed.

Indeed. Pretty much universally, Trumptards are like that, 6ix, but then so are Russians who have taken up torturing prisoners and bringing back the death penalty:

Russia does not have the death penalty, but in a statement on state channel Rossiya-24, Vladimir Vasiliev, the head of the United Russia faction in the lower house of parliament, said fellow lawmakers might consider the issue of reviving it.

“Many questions are being asked now about the death penalty,” he said, according to state news agency RIA-Novosti. “This topic will certainly be deeply, professionally, and meaningfully addressed. And a decision will be made that will meet the moods and expectations of our society.”

The sentiments of wider society may be hard to gauge, but the mood of Russia’s political class is already clear. It is vengeful, and all options are on the table.

The second war in Chechnya was a brutal affair, and human-rights activists documented the appearance of so-called “filtration camps” where civilians were routinely subjected to humiliation, torture and sometimes extrajudicial execution. Russian troops repeated the practice in occupied parts of Ukraine.

The ugly conduct of Russian security forces in both Chechnya and Ukraine has often remained out of public view, at least when it came to the narrative promoted through official Russian media. But after Friday’s Crocus City attack, the brutality of Russian security services appeared on naked display.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-s-political-class-is-takin
g-a-dark-and-vengeful-turn/ar-BB1kvYlF


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Tuesday, March 26, 2024 9:00 PM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Indeed.

Indeed. Pretty much universally, Trumptards are like that, 6ix, but then so are Russians who have taken up torturing prisoners and bringing back the death penalty:



Don't want to hear any of it from you.

If you walk into a room of unarmed civilians who have their guard down at a concert and start mowing them down, you're going to fucking die for it.

And you're going to be tortured before you die too.

And it's going to be shared online so other people can see what will happen to them if they do it.

End of story. Period.


Stop sympathizing with fucking terrorists. What is wrong with you?

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Tuesday, March 26, 2024 9:33 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Don't want to hear any of it from you.

If you walk into a room of unarmed civilians who have their guard down at a concert and start mowing them down, you're going to fucking die for it.

And you're going to be tortured before you die too.

And it's going to be shared online so other people can see what will happen to them if they do it.

End of story. Period.

Stop sympathizing with fucking terrorists. What is wrong with you?

On September 11, 2001, I heard the same fantasies of torture, murder, and revenge from people who would be voting for Trump. In 2024, we know how much those dizzy fantasies cost the USA:

$2.313 trillion for Afghanistan War
https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/figures/2021/human-and-budgetary-c
osts-date-us-war-afghanistan-2001-2022


$2.89 trillion for Iraq War
https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/papers/2023/IraqSyria20

Russian fantasies of torture, murder, and revenge will cost the Russians similarly large amounts. It is a waste of money.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Tuesday, March 26, 2024 9:40 PM

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Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Don't want to hear any of it from you.

If you walk into a room of unarmed civilians who have their guard down at a concert and start mowing them down, you're going to fucking die for it.

And you're going to be tortured before you die too.

And it's going to be shared online so other people can see what will happen to them if they do it.

End of story. Period.

Stop sympathizing with fucking terrorists. What is wrong with you?

On September 11, 2001, I heard the same fantasies of torture, murder, and revenge from people who would be voting for Trump. In 2024, we know how much those dizzy fantasies cost the USA:

$2.313 trillion for Afghanistan War
https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/figures/2021/human-and-budgetary-c
osts-date-us-war-afghanistan-2001-2022


$2.89 trillion for Iraq War
https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/papers/2023/IraqSyria20

Russian fantasies of torture, murder, and revenge will cost the Russians similarly large amounts. It is a waste of money.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly





Nah. It's pretty simple and cheap.

Just wire up a guys ballsack to an 80 volt battery until he foams at the mouth, then cut off another guys ear and feed it to him.

They already did that.

I'm sure they didn't buy a new knife for the ear.

How much does a kilowatt hour of electricity cost in Russia today, and how much electricity does it take to zap a mass-murderer's nutsack until they foam at the mouth?

It's all probably been quite a bit cheaper than a Big Mac in Joe Biden*'s America.

The biggest expense they're going to have is giving them just enough food and water to live as long as possible while they continue torturing them before finally putting the dogs down.

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Tuesday, March 26, 2024 9:54 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Nah. It's pretty simple and cheap.

Just wire up a guys ballsack to an 80 volt battery until he foams at the mouth, then cut off another guys ear and feed it to him.

They already did that.

I'm sure they didn't buy a new knife for the ear.

How much does a kilowatt hour of electricity cost in Russia today, and how much electricity does it take to zap a mass-murderer's nutsack until they foam at the mouth?

It's all probably been quite a bit cheaper than a Big Mac in Joe Biden*'s America.

The biggest expense they're going to have is giving them just enough food and water to live as long as possible while they continue torturing them before finally putting the dogs down.

6ix, you cannot stop yourself from indulging in more of your torture, murder, and revenge fantasies. At Guantanamo Naval Base the Trumptards in the military made those fantasies a reality. It now costs $540 million per year to detain fewer than 40 prisoners at Guantanamo.
https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/05/04/high-cost-guantanamos-forever-pris
oners


The Russians already have their equivalents to Gitmo, except in the frigid Arctic instead of the warm Caribbean tropic, but at much lower operating cost because their prisoners suddenly die for "unknown" reasons rather than old age.

What we know about Alexei Navalny's death in Arctic prison
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/alexei-navalnys-death-what-do-we-
know-2024-02-18
/

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Tuesday, March 26, 2024 10:08 PM

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6ix, you cannot stop yourself from indulging in more of your torture, murder, and revenge fantasies.



Not fantasy. Reality. They've already started on these guys, and they're far from finished.



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It now costs $540 million per year to detain fewer than 40 prisoners at Guantanamo.


That's just pure American government waste. Besides labor costs, it's practically free to torture mass-murdering terrorist Muslim dogs.

$540 Million per year, huh?

Talk about "Hollywood Accounting".





You're lucky you live in Texas and not New York. New York is going to see a huge terrorist event soon.

They voted for it.

They probably never will again after it happens.


Here's hoping it's on Manhattan Island this time where all the affluent college "educated" white folks that spend their days telling everyone else how they should live are, and not in the middle of the city where the people who actually work for a living spend their days.

Tick Tock

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Tuesday, March 26, 2024 11:54 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

You're lucky you live in Texas and not New York. New York is going to see a huge terrorist event soon.

They voted for it.

They probably never will again after it happens.

The Russians are convincing themselves that the US should be terrorized by Russia. It's almost Vengeance Time, Russian-style :

March 26, 2024

The head of Russia’s Federal Security Service (FSB) has made the bizarre claim that the US, UK and Ukraine were involved in the terror attack on a Moscow concert hall that killed 139 people – as the Kremlin keeps pushing a false narrative trying to link its invasion of Ukraine to the shooting.

Alexander Bortnikov, the director of the FSB offered no evidence for his claim, with the US, France and number of other nations all saying that a branch of Isis were responsible for the attack. Isis-K itself has claimed the attack and released a graphic video of it.

“The USA, Britain and Ukraine are behind the terrorist attack in Crocus City Hall,” Mr Bortnikov, a staunch ally of Vladimir Putin, was quoted as saying by TASS, the Russian state-owned news agency. “We believe the action was prepared both by the radical Islamists themselves and, of course, facilitated by Western special services”.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-ukraine-war-new
s-putin-moscow-attack-uk-b2518871.html


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