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Wahhabsim: The philosophy of Saudi jiahd, and ISIS

POSTED BY: SIGNYM
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Sunday, December 10, 2023 11:24 PM

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I've been doing some research on this, and I thought I would share what I found.

Much of the Sunni world is driven by Wahhabism, which was spread throughout the Muslim world by Saudi wealth (a four decades-long project).

Looking into Wahhabism and its tennets, I can see how al Qaida and ISIS came into being, and why the internecine warfare between Wahhabist Sunni and Shia.

Wahhabism is, as they say, an "austere" interpretation of Islam. It depends on several main tenets:

The first is that any Islamic interpretation other than Wahhabism deserves death. There is no co-existance with Wahhabism. It's either "convert of die". Most other interpretations are tolerant, not only of other Islamic sects, but of other religions. Not Wahhabism. Wahhabis reserve their special enmity for the Shiite interpretation of Islam.

Killing someone of course allows you to steal their goods, including women and children. (Clearly, women and children are considered "property" under Wahhabism. It's an underlying tenet that they don't say out loud but is practiced freely.)

Wahhabism is an extremely accusatory religion; it rests on denunciation of others by its adherents in order to "prove" their faith. That means denouncing local Islamic customs and practices (which I'll get to in a moment) and especially denouncing and killing Shia Muslims.

One who denounces another is a "takfir". Wahhabism is sometimes called Takfirism because of this regular practice of denouncing others, and lining them up for being killed (and stealing their goods and land).

For whatever reason, the adherents of Wahhabism resort to horrific ways of killing people. That's been a foundational characteristic since the beginning of the religion in 1740.

Another tenet requires that all other objects of worship be destroyed, since they distract from the worship of Allah alone. That means objects and places of worship aside from mosques: tombs of respected (revered) mullahs/imams, gravestones, etc. The destruction of historical sites isn't just malicious vandalism, it's part of their religion.

Wahhabism is also very political. In addition to worshiping Allah, and only Allah, Wahhabism requires singular faithfulness to the caliph. So there's a direct line, from Allah to Mohammed to the caliph (whoever that is) - and gruesome death to anyone who believes differently.

There's more, but basically the tennets of Wahhabism were used by ibn Saud (and sons) to provide a religious authority to banditry and barbarism. It's been the foundation of Saudi Arabia since 1920.

In that light, the practices of ISIS aren't new. They're a reversion to the Wahhabism of old, and should have been predictable.



On a relevant point: All Muslims aren't head -chopping wahabbists, just as all Xtians aren't nutjob fundamentalists.

However, the USA State Dept and/or CIA was very happy to use head-chopping nutjob Muslims to attack Russia in Afghanistan, Syria, and Chechnya. And were were more than happy to overthrow moderate, reformist, or secular leaders in the Mideast and N Africa.

We really should pick our proxies better bc they may be useful in the short run, but in the long run they seem come back and bite us.

I would say the same about Israel - not a good proxy, more often than not leads us to torpedo our actual interests in the ME. And too often the tail that wags the dog.

WHAT ARE OUR INTERESTS IN THE MIDEAST AND ELSEWHERE?

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Monday, March 25, 2024 4:55 AM




Islamic State Claims Attack on Niger Army That Killed Dozens

https://www.voanews.com/a/islamic-state-claims-attack-on-niger-army-th
at-killed-dozens-/7540320.html


I thought the Trump Admin had finished most of them

most of the old Susan Wojcicki team seem to have done a good job on their stalinist fascist censoring of people silence on voices of you tube with lots of dead links, I always said to try other sites when I seen that massive ban wave arrive

and looks like those camelfucker goatrapist terrorists are officially back with the recent attack on Moscow

The British, Canadians and USA even warned them that this type of islamo group was going to attack after giving warnings to avoid concerts but they didnt get the date exactly correct in the warning

Reports say the terrorists were Tajik. The Tajikistani president's now disavowing them shitting himself if any Putin missiles are pointed his way, makes a statement to Russia about sympathy maybe and probably after changing his pants.

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Monday, March 25, 2024 11:49 AM

Missiles are far too good for these dogs.

Pure torture and terror for the rest of their lives is the only thing that they deserve in their future.

Their diseased religious cult will no longer be tolerated by the civilized.

May Israel raze the Gaza Strip to the ground and not stop until every last dog that does not renounce Allah finally gets their chance to meet him.

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Monday, March 25, 2024 12:59 PM

SIX, you missed an important point:

On a relevant point: All Muslims aren't head -chopping wahabbists, just as all Xtians aren't nutjob fundamentalists.

You're conflating all Muslims with Whabbists, and Palestinians with hatd-core nut job Sunnis.

Wahhabists kill because it's "convert or die", and anything that gets in the way of their perfect Muslim world has to be destroyed. They're fighting for their brand of reli.

Hamas/ Palestinians aren't fighting for religion, they're fighting for their homes and their lives, which Israelis are taking from them kilometer by kilometer and soul by soul.

Here's another group you know nothing about: Hezbollah. Hezbollah, which is a Shia group based in Lebanon, is fighting for Lebanese (and Syrian) national sovereignty. No more invasions and attempted regine-changes by Israel and the USA.

Syria is FULL of Muslims, but the President belongs to a real Muslim minority, the Alswites. As such, he is protective of all religious minorities in Syria, including Alawites, Druze, and Christians. Syria is a secular nation (unlike Israel and Saudi Arabia). He, Hezbollah, and Russia are fighting the nut-job Sunni Wahhabists who are trying to topple the government an impose their nut-job religion on everyone. They are also fighting Israel which keeps trying to invade.

Iran is also mainly Shia, and like Lebanon and Syria they are fighfing for national sovereignty. I have no idea why the USA has such a grotch against Iran. I can only think of three reasons:
1) They had the temerity to overthrow the USA- installed dictator, the Shah of Iran, put up their own government, and nationalize their oil, and
2) They are the most developed and populous nation in the ME and represent a real threat to USA hegemony in the region and
3) They are the nail that refuses to be hammered down

Hamas resorts to guerrilla tactics and targets civilians. (Altho many Israelis were killed by IDF Oct 7 in their panic to kill Hamas).

Iran, I have read, is pretty corrupt. The religious leaders rake off business profits and live quite well.

Hezbollah and Syria both seem to be on the up-and-up.

So when you conflate all Muslims with Wahhabists and call for genocide, you're speaking from an extremely deep well of ignorance. Its clear you've never spoken with any real-live Muslims and don't know anything about the Mideast, bc many Muslims are as against Wahhabism as you, and are actually fighting it, like with guns and tanks.

You really should educate yourself.

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Monday, March 25, 2024 2:25 PM

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SIX, you missed an important point.



I didn't miss that lie.

I threw it right in the trash where it belongs.

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Monday, March 25, 2024 7:36 PM

Then I'm throwing you in the trash, along with all the other ignorant white trash.


Really, SIX, you're better than that.

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Monday, March 25, 2024 9:41 PM

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Then I'm throwing you in the trash, along with all the other ignorant white trash.


Really, SIX, you're better than that.

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Your conflating 100% Apostasy or paying for the crimes of your religion with the word Genocide.

This is no different than how Second and Ted always conflate Racism with Nationalism.

Islam as a dangerous and diseased pseudo-religious cult needs to be eradicated and has no place in civilized society.

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Monday, March 25, 2024 11:26 PM

Netanyahu cancels Israeli delegation to US over UN Gaza vote

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/netanyahu-cancels-israeli-delegat
ion-to-us-over-un-gaza-vote/ar-BB1kvfB2


Good for you, Netanyahu. Time to remove all of them from the equation once and for all.

If GWB didn't fuck around with non-committal half-measures and did what needed to be done instead of using 9/11 as an excuse to destroy American's privacy and Constitutional Rights in the first place, none of this would be happening today.

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Tuesday, March 26, 2024 1:52 AM

[uote]Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Then I'm throwing you in the trash, along with all the other ignorant white trash.

Really, SIX, you're better than that.

SIX: Your conflating 100% Apostasy




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apostasy /?-pos't?-se/
noun

1) Abandonment of one's religious faith, a political party, one's principles, or a cause. An abandonment of what one has voluntarily professed;
2) a total desertion of departure from one's faith, principles, or party; esp., the renunciation of a religious faith



I have no idea what you're trying to to say. Killing people en mass isn't apostasy (getting people to renounce their religion). There's no possible way to conflate them. It's like you're drunk- posting, so please clarify.


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or paying for the crimes of your religion [not apostasy] with the word Genocide.

This is no different than how Second and Ted always conflate Racism with Nationalism.



Like I said, you're not making sense. The logical thread is broken.

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Islam as a dangerous and diseased pseudo-religious cult needs to be eradicated and has no place in civilized society.


SIX, the Chechens ... MUSLIMS ... are fighting terrorists and they would make excellent anti- terrorist allies, if we would let them.

The Syrian government... MUSLIMS... are fighting terrorists (ISIS, Al Qeda) on their own soil, and they would make excellent anti- terrorist allies, if we would let them. Instead, we're fighting them.

You're conflating "Muslim" with "terrorism".
Couple of comments:

You need to think real carefully about what terrorism is.
Terrorism is a TACTIC. It is the targeting of civilians to terrorize them, to bring about political, social, or religious change. It's not limited to a religion, or limited by the size of the strike, or the standing of the perpetrator:

Blowing yourself up at a bus stop.
Bringing down airplanes and buildings.
Burning a building full of civilians.
Shelling civilian buildings.
Bombing civilian centers (to bring about "regime change" for example).


ANYONE who resorts to terror tactics is a terrorist. Doesn't matter if you're a jihadists with a suicide vest or drone pilot or a covert operator or military unit.

You can't fight "terrorism" with terrorism, all you can do is expand it.

You CAN fight terrorists, tho. You just better make sure you have identified them correctly, because if you start targeting uninvolved civilians... well, that makes YOU a terrorist, too.


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Tuesday, March 26, 2024 2:14 AM

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[uote]Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Then I'm throwing you in the trash, along with all the other ignorant white trash.

Really, SIX, you're better than that.

SIX: Your conflating 100% Apostasy



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apostasy /?-pos't?-se/
noun

1) Abandonment of one's religious faith, a political party, one's principles, or a cause. An abandonment of what one has voluntarily professed;
2) a total desertion of departure from one's faith, principles, or party; esp., the renunciation of a religious faith



I have no idea what you're trying to to say. Killing people en mass isn't apostasy (getting people to renounce their religion). There's no possible way to conflate them. It's like you're drunk- posting, so please clarify.


They renounce their diseased god, or they die. Pretty simple.


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