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Russia says 60 dead, 145 injured in concert hall raid; Islamic State group claims responsibility

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Monday, March 25, 2024 2:11 PM

Well, well, well...

So far it would appear that Moscow is not going to disappoint.



They wired up one of their ballsacks to an 80 volt battery and let him foam at the mouth.

Then they cut off another one's ear and forced him to eat it.


I still like my ideas better, but I do have to applaud the initiative and the balls they had for doing something that nobody currently in the American government would have the balls to do.

Videos please, Putin.

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Monday, March 25, 2024 7:08 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

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Originally posted by SECOND:
Putin blamed Ukraine without providing any evidence. But that is standard operating procedure for Putin: blame whoever is most convenient for him.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Putin+blamed+Ukraine+without+providing
+any+evidence

1) No he did not.
2) However, the terrorists were caught close to the Ukraine border on a road that led to ... Ukraine. The fact that they were heading in that direction does imply that they expected at least not to be extradited to Russia, and at most that one or more people had planned an escape route for them.

Signym, once again you flat-out lied, Putin is blaming Ukraine, but lying is a standard operating procedure for Russians. Why are Russians like that, for over a century? Truth takes precision, self-control, and time, while convenient lies are sloppy, effortless, and instantaneous. That's why Russians lie constantly about everything. It is so much easier.

As Russia Mourns Attack Victims, State Media Intensifies Blame of Ukraine
News outlets were trying to counter U.S. assessments that the deadly assault on the concert hall near Moscow was the work of an offshoot of the Islamic State.

By Ivan Nechepurenko | March 25, 2024, 7:06 a.m. ET

As Russians grieved Monday for victims of the bloody assault on a concert hall near Moscow that killed at least 137 people, President Vladimir V. Putin was scheduled to meet with government officials to discuss the tragedy, the worst such attack in the capital in two decades.

The government appears to be stepping up efforts to pin the blame on Ukraine. On Sunday, hours after a district court arraigned four men suspected of carrying out the Friday night attack, the main evening news shows on Russia’s main television channels featured reports suggesting that Ukraine was responsible.

The main message was that Western countries were pushing a theory that a branch of the Islamic State was behind the attack, which took place at Crocus City Hall on the outskirts of Moscow, to shift blame away from Ukraine.

“The United States and Europe understand that any connection between Ukraine and the attack against Crocus City Hall would be suicidal for Kyiv and the whole anti-Russian alliance,” said one anchor, Dmitri Melnikov, in a report on Vesti Nedeli, the flagship weekly news show on Rossiya-1, the main state-owned television network.

The Islamic State has claimed responsibility for the attack. The United States has said that the assault was the work of an ISIS offshoot, the Islamic State in Khorasan, and that there is no evidence implicating Ukraine. Ukraine has denied any involvement.

On Monday, mourners streamed to take flowers to spontaneous memorials across the country. Many Russians were also going to hospitals to donate blood, state news media reported.

Three shopping malls belonging to the company that owns the concert hall said that they would be closed indefinitely. Emergency workers continued to clear the debris inside the concert hall.

But the coverage by Russian state news outlets reflected how the Kremlin seemed determined to muster its resources against what it apparently sees as its main enemy: Ukraine, backed by a coalition of Western states.

Russian investigators have not disclosed any evidence suggesting that the four suspects, men from Tajikistan who were migrant workers in Russia, have a connection to Ukraine.

In the news reports, Russian state television presented the location of their arrest — the Bryansk region of Russia that borders Ukraine — as evidence of Ukrainian involvement. The reports also suggested that Kyiv could have hired them to mount the attack.

In a statement about the tragedy, President Vladimir V. Putin said that the suspects “were heading toward Ukraine” and that “according to preliminary information, a window was prepared for them on the Ukrainian side to cross the state border.”


Dmitri S. Peskov, the Kremlin’s spokesman, said on Monday that Mr. Putin would me

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Monday, March 25, 2024 7:30 PM

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a statement about the tragedy, President Vladimir V. Putin said that the suspects “were heading toward Ukraine” and that “according to preliminary information, a window was prepared for them on the Ukrainian side to cross the state border.”


Oh, I see. You overextended your interpretation.

Putin is a lawyer. He parses his words carefully. He's not blaming Ukraine for the attack. He's saying that someone - not necessarily a government agency- was prepared to help them escape.

Thinks about it. The Russian Ukraine border is heavily guarded by both sides. Either someone had prepared a way for them to slip past the guards, or heading for Ukraine was a completely boneheaded move. They should have headed either back to the nearest 'stan, or to the Baltic states. Not to a wartime border.

Too many unanswered questions.

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Monday, March 25, 2024 9:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

a statement about the tragedy, President Vladimir V. Putin said that the suspects “were heading toward Ukraine” and that “according to preliminary information, a window was prepared for them on the Ukrainian side to cross the state border.”


Oh, I see. You overextended your interpretation.

Putin is a lawyer. He parses his words carefully. He's not blaming Ukraine for the attack. He's saying that someone - not necessarily a government agency- was prepared to help them escape.

Thinks about it. The Russian Ukraine border is heavily guarded by both sides. Either someone had prepared a way for them to slip past the guards, or heading for Ukraine was a completely boneheaded move. They should have headed either back to the nearest 'stan, or to the Baltic states. Not to a wartime border.

Too many unanswered questions.

Signym, you lied again by excluding words spoken by Putin's mouthpieces in the media and by only including words spoken by Putin. Here is what Putin's media mouthpieces are communicating for Putin:

. . . the coverage by Russian state news outlets reflected how the Kremlin seemed determined to muster its resources against what it apparently sees as its main enemy: Ukraine, backed by a coalition of Western states.

Russian investigators have not disclosed any evidence suggesting that the four suspects, men from Tajikistan who were migrant workers in Russia, have a connection to Ukraine.

In the news reports, Russian state television presented the location of their arrest — the Bryansk region of Russia that borders Ukraine — as evidence of Ukrainian involvement. The reports also suggested that Kyiv could have hired them to mount the attack.

In a statement about the tragedy, President Vladimir V. Putin said that the suspects “were heading toward Ukraine” and that “according to preliminary information, a window was prepared for them on the Ukrainian side to cross the state border.”

Signym, when all Putin's words plus all his mouthpieces' words are included the fake story Putin is selling as if true becomes very clear: Kyiv killed Russians at the concert.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, March 25, 2024 9:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

a statement about the tragedy, President Vladimir V. Putin said that the suspects “were heading toward Ukraine” and that “according to preliminary information, a window was prepared for them on the Ukrainian side to cross the state border.”


Oh, I see. You overextended your interpretation.

Putin is a lawyer. He parses his words carefully. He's not blaming Ukraine for the attack. He's saying that someone - not necessarily a government agency- was prepared to help them escape.

Thinks about it. The Russian Ukraine border is heavily guarded by both sides. Either someone had prepared a way for them to slip past the guards, or heading for Ukraine was a completely boneheaded move. They should have headed either back to the nearest 'stan, or to the Baltic states. Not to a wartime border.

Too many unanswered questions.

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

Loving America is like loving an addicted spouse - SIGNYM





You can't have a conversation with a Biden* Democrat about strong borders. They don't understand the concept.

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Monday, March 25, 2024 11:20 PM

Back on topic, let's talk about how Russia handled the situation and why those coward dogs are never going to try this shit in Russia again.



Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Well, well, well...

So far it would appear that Moscow is not going to disappoint.



They wired up one of their ballsacks to an 80 volt battery and let him foam at the mouth.

Then they cut off another one's ear and forced him to eat it.


I still like my ideas better, but I do have to applaud the initiative and the balls they had for doing something that nobody currently in the American government would have the balls to do.

Videos please, Putin.

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Monday, March 25, 2024 11:33 PM

America Is Going to Be Targeted for a Massive Terrorist Attack...Will You Be Ready?

https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2024/03/25/america-is-g
oing-to-be-targeted-for-a-massive-terrorist-attack-will-you-be-ready-n2636901



Of course it is.

We've been under attack for 3 years now already with a wide open border; the current Administration flying in illegal criminal invaders all over the country in tandem with Defund The Police putting law enforcement in a stranglehold, especially in Democrat run shithole big cities.

I wouldn't want to be living or working in one of those cities in current day.

If they get around to doing an attack before the election, the entire fucking US electoral map is going to turn Red overnight.

Leftists worldwide, but especially in America, have put us and everybody in the world in this position. The blame lies 100% squarely at their feet.

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Monday, March 25, 2024 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
America Is Going to Be Targeted for a Massive Terrorist Attack...Will You Be Ready?

Of course it is.

We've been under attack for 3 years now already with a wide open border; the current Administration flying in illegal criminal invaders all over the country in tandem with Defund The Police putting law enforcement in a stranglehold, especially in Democrat run shithole big cities.

I wouldn't want to be living or working in one of those cities in current day.

If they get around to doing an attack before the election, the entire fucking US electoral map is going to turn Red overnight.

Leftists worldwide, but especially in America, have put us and everybody in the world in this position. The blame lies 100% squarely at their feet.

6ix, what will do if Trump loses in November?

(a) Realize you are a stupid asshole?

(b) Claim the election was stolen?

I predict you will select (b) but you are already (a) stupid asshole.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, March 25, 2024 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
America Is Going to Be Targeted for a Massive Terrorist Attack...Will You Be Ready?

Of course it is.

We've been under attack for 3 years now already with a wide open border; the current Administration flying in illegal criminal invaders all over the country in tandem with Defund The Police putting law enforcement in a stranglehold, especially in Democrat run shithole big cities.

I wouldn't want to be living or working in one of those cities in current day.

If they get around to doing an attack before the election, the entire fucking US electoral map is going to turn Red overnight.

Leftists worldwide, but especially in America, have put us and everybody in the world in this position. The blame lies 100% squarely at their feet.

6ix, what will do if Trump loses in November?

(a) Realize you are a stupid asshole?

(b) Claim the election was stolen?

I predict you will select (b) but you are already (a) stupid asshole.





You first...

Democrats doubting election results compliation



Hillary Clinton Voters Call To Overturn Results






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Tuesday, March 26, 2024 5:27 PM

As the world voices its compassion for the relatives of the dead and the hundreds recovering from their wounds, what does Vladimir Putin do? He seeks to involve Ukraine in the blame and then orders a massive missile strike on Kyiv. It is done deliberately to deflect any blame from himself. The Kremlin had been tipped off by Western intelligence to the possibility of an attack from an IS splinter organisation operating in the Khorasan region but ignored the warnings, calling it a provocation.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-has-reached-a-new-low/ar-BB
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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