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Electoral College, ReSteal 2024 Edition

POSTED BY: JEWELSTAITEFAN
UPDATED: Thursday, November 7, 2024 07:59
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Wednesday, March 6, 2024 12:30 AM

I've gone through this in 2020, 2016, and maybe 2012.

Some states have rendered themselves irrelevant regarding the Electoral College. CA, NY, IL, MA are never going to vote for GoP in 2024 unless ALL Vote Fraud and Election Fraud is eliminated in those states - a mountain too tall to climb.

So I'll try to identify which states are "safely" going to tally in the Libtard (Biden) column, and which are going to tally in the GoP (Trump) column, and which are too close to call.

And then I will look at how they performed during the Fake Election Steal 2020, according to Fake Totals.
Then I'll look at how many Fake, Fraudulent Votes were cast in those states which were flipped by Lord Darth Obiden. There have been numerous investigations, and films, which have detailed much of the fraudulent Votes, so there will be much data - and how the ACTUAL, HONEST Vote Totals for those states add up. And how that will be extrapolated for this round of Election Theft.
Then an estimation of how much additional Fake Ballots will be needed to steal the Election again this time.
Then evaluation of polling shifts in "swing" or "battleground" states.

This thread will ride the assumption that Trump will be the GoP Candidate, and that he lives until Election Day. Similar for Biden, but even if he dies and only his AI CGI continues on, it won't really matter much. The whole point of The Steal is to deny Trump of the Honest Electoral Totals.
This will also assume that the Election will again be stolen, but we can try to lay out how that picture will look. Even if Trump garners 150,000 honest Votes, Biden (or whatever other Libtard candidate) will still obtain 180,000 votes in their tally.
Of course, the big push for Election Steal 2020 was to corrupt the Fake Census, and boost fake populations for Libtard states while erasing populations in realistic states. So I will need to recalculate the Electoral Votes from the states.



The next post should be a recap of 2016 from the 2020 thread. Next a recap of 2020 results.
Then a summary of where things stand for 2024.


Some other threads which might be helpful:
Electoral College 2020
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63510
Biden* got 255,000 ‘excess’ votes in fraud-tainted swing states in 2020, study finds
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=64990
How Many States Actually Have Rampant Election Fraud?
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63996
Countdown To Stealing The Election
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63921
Voter Fraud Proven
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=62939
U.S. House Races 2024
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=65809
The Thread of Court Cases Trump Is Winning
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=65711

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=65429
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=58749

Some polling data to compare to:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63965
House Elections 2020
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63269
Senate Race 2020
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63139

As an aside, I noticed that last election day was 59 pages of posts ago in RWED. The most recent 2 years of posts fill 40 pages. More than I expected.

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Wednesday, March 6, 2024 12:31 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I should probably start with this useful data.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
In 2012 Obama beat Romney, with only 409,500 votes deciding the race. This means if the right 205,000 voters had changed, Romney would have won. With an estimated Voting Eligible Population of 222,474,000 this means that less than one one-thousandth of the Eligible Voters decided the race, or less than 0.1%. With total vote count of 129,237,000 the percentage was about 0.15% of those who voted.

In 2016, Trump beat Hilliary, with only 54,996 votes (in MI and PA) deciding the race. This means that if the right 27,498 voters had changed, Hilliary would have won. (5,352 in MI and 22,146 in PA).
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Of course, no state has voted for Democrats in every elections since 1971, but Minnesota has done so for every election after 1972. Even when the most conservative President we've had in modern times was running, every other state voted for Reagan, but not MN. But they only had an 8 percent margin in 2012, meaning that if 4% of their voters had shifted, the state would have gone to Romney. In 2008 they had a margin of 10%.

Hilliary had a 1.51% margin in MN.


Let us review 2016.
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Consider these groups of states.
Group 1. 102 Electors. 13 States.
TX, SC, AL, OK, UT, KS, MS, NE, ID, WY, ND, SD, AK.
These states have voted Republican in every election since 1979, and the closest margin in 2012 was SC with 10%. Most people can assume they will go to the GOP in 2016. This group had 91 Electors in 1980, but they have embraced progress and Free Enterprise and flourished, expanding their proportional population.

Group 2. 19 Electors.
GA, MT.
These 2 have voted for GOP in each election since 1982 except for 1992. Both can be assumed to go for GOP in 2016, although GA had only an 8% margin in 2012. They had 16 Electors in 1980.

Group 3. 59 Electors.
TN, AZ, MO, LA, KY, AR, WV.
These states have voted for GOP in almost all elections since 1979 except for the Perot years, 1992 & 1996. They also each have a margin in 2012 of 9% or more. They are likely to vote GOP in 2016.

Group 4. 26 Electors.
NC, IN.
These 2 states have voted Right every election since 1979 except 2008. In 2012 IN voted R by a margin of 10%, and 2008 voted D by a margin of 1.0%. NC voted R in 2012 by a margin or 2% and in 2008 voted D by a margin of 0.32%. These would likely vote Republican if there was a decent candidate.

5. 29 Electors.
FL*.
Florida has voted R since 1979 except 1996, 2008, and 2012. The margin in 2012 was 0.9%. This would easily go to Republican if a decent candidate was available. Florida had 17 Electors in 1980.

Groups 1-5 all voted for Trump. 235 Electors. 25 States.
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6. 40 Electors.
CO*, VA, OH*.
These 3 States usually vote for the winner since 1979, and in 2012 voted Dem by a margin ranging between 3% and 5%. A decent candidate would put these back in the GOP column. Ohio has lost 28% of it's Elector count since 1980.


Group 6: OH maintained it's record of voting for every winner since 1963. The other 2 remained on the Dark Side. Trump 253 EV, 26 States. Hilliary 22 EV, 2 States.
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Group 7. 57 Electors.
NM*, MN, WI, IA, NV*, PA.
Other than the Reagan/Bush41 years, these states have mostly voted for Dems since then, and in 2012 had margins of between 5% and 10% for Obama. These would likely vote Democrat if there was a decent candidate. This group had 63 Electors in 1980.


Group 7 split: WI, IA, PA went to Trump, the others remained on the Dark Side. Trump 289 EV, 29 States. Hilliary 43 EV, 5 States.
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Group 8. 31 Electors.
MI, OR, NH*, ME
These states have voted for Democrats since 1990, and had a large margin in 2012, with MI the tightest margin at 10%. These are likely to go to Democrats in 2016. This group had 35 Electors in 1980.


Group 8: MI voted Trump in 2016, the rest stayed on the Dark Side. Trump 305 EV, 30 States.

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Wednesday, March 6, 2024 12:31 AM


So, how this data works moving forward in 2024:
The Pelosi/Biden Fake Census 2020 dropped TX seat gain to only 2, and FL to only 1, as well as 1 gained for MT, NC, CO. OR; and boosted CA and NY to losses of only 1 seat, as well as 1 seat losses for IL, MI, OH, PA, WV.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Of course, no state has voted for Democrats in every elections since 1971, but Minnesota has done so for every election after 1972. Even when the most conservative President we've had in modern times was running, every other state voted for Reagan, but not MN. But they only had an 8 percent margin in 2012, meaning that if 4% of their voters had shifted, the state would have gone to Romney. In 2008 they had a margin of 10%.

Consider these groups of states.
Group 1. 102 Electors.
TX, SC, AL, OK, UT, KS, MS, NE, ID, WY, ND, SD, AK.
These states have voted Republican in every election since 1979, and the closest margin in 2012 was SC with 10%. Most people can assume they will go to the GOP in 2016. This group had 91 Electors in 1980, but they have embraced progress and Free Enterprise and flourished, expanding their proportional population.

TX 9% in 2016
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Group 2. 19 Electors.
GA, MT.
These 2 have voted for GOP in each election since 1982 except for 1992. Both can be assumed to go for GOP in 2016, although GA had only an 8% margin in 2012. They had 16 Electors in 1980.

GA 5.1% in 2016
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Group 3. 59 Electors.
TN, AZ, MO, LA, KY, AR, WV.
These states have voted for GOP in almost all elections since 1979 except for the Perot years, 1992 & 1996. They also each have a margin in 2012 of 9% or more. They are likely to vote GOP in 2016.

Group 4. 26 Electors.
NC, IN.
These 2 states have voted Right every election since 1979 except 2008. In 2012 IN voted R by a margin of 10%, and 2008 voted D by a margin of 1.0%. NC voted R in 2012 by a margin or 2% and in 2008 voted D by a margin of 0.32%. These would likely vote Republican if there was a decent candidate.

5. 29 Electors.
FL*.
Florida has voted R since 1979 except 1996, 2008, and 2012. The margin in 2012 was 0.9%. This would easily go to Republican if a decent candidate was available. Florida had 17 Electors in 1980.

FL 1.2% in 2016

Groups 1-5: 235 Electors, 25 States.


I'll insert a Group 10 here - the States which went to Trump but trended Dem.

OH - 18 EV. 8.1% to Trump.
WI - 10 EV. 0.77%
IA - 6 EV. 9.4%
PA - 20 EV 0.71%
MI - 16 EV 0.22%

If Trump retains OH and IA, that adds up to 259 Electors.
Another 11 Electoral Votes wins him another 4 years.
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6. 40 22 Electors.
CO*, VA, OH*.
These 3 States usually vote for the winner since 1979, and in 2012 voted Dem by a margin ranging between 3% and 5%. A decent candidate would put these back in the GOP column. Ohio has lost 28% of it's Elector count since 1980.

CO 4.9%, VA 5.3%
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Group 7. 57 21 Electors.
NM*, MN, WI, IA, NV*, PA.
Other than the Reagan/Bush41 years, these states have mostly voted for Dems since then, and in 2012 had margins of between 5% and 10% for Obama. These would likely vote Democrat if there was a decent candidate. This group had 63 Electors in 1980.

NM 8.2%, MN 1.51%, NV 2.4%
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Group 8. 31 15

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Wednesday, March 6, 2024 12:31 AM

WI is unlikely to get an unfraudulent Election. RINOs of WI are led by Speaker Robin Vos, who is protecting Fraudster-in-Chief Megan Wolfe. So this is likely to stay in the Libtard column, for 233 EV total.

ME might be a tossup, but for now let's assume it stays Libtard. At least 236 EV total.


Let's look at the rest. How much Libtard Election Fraud is needed to Steal again?

PA (19)

GA (16)

MI (15)

AZ (11)

NV (6)

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Friday, May 17, 2024 6:37 AM

Sloppysecond's Libtards controlling Harris County finally get slapped down, invalidating 2022 election "results" due to fraud.

https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/articles/news/politics/elections/20
24/05/16/487662/judge-orders-new-election-in-final-republican-challenge-stemming-from-2022-harris-county-election-losses
/

Orders new election be held.

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Friday, May 17, 2024 6:37 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
WI is unlikely to get an unfraudulent Election. RINOs of WI are led by Speaker Robin Vos, who is protecting Fraudster-in-Chief Megan Wolfe. So this is likely to stay in the Libtard column, for 233 EV total.

ME might be a tossup, but for now let's assume it stays Libtard. At least 236 EV total.


Let's look at the rest. How much Libtard Election Fraud is needed to Steal again?

PA (19)

GA (16)

MI (15)

AZ (11)

NV (6)


I heard Trump is polling up 12% in NV and AZ.

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Friday, May 17, 2024 6:59 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I heard Trump is polling up 12% in NV and AZ.



You can't cherry pick polls. If Trump's up 12% in NV and AZ on that poll, there's polls that Democrats put out that skew just as far out in Biden*'s favor.

Trump is up 6.2% in NV and 5.2% in AZ in the polling aggregate. He's also up 5.4% in NC and 4.8% in GA.

At this point, those four "swing states" are just about locked in barring some major winds of change.



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Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.

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Wednesday, May 22, 2024 7:33 PM

Red and Blue seem to be almost one and the same and no third party choice? during the 4 years very often Trump got nothing done, stabbed in the back.


Team Red says vote Molech...those blue voting Baal-Hammon are they bad guys
but then team Blue says vote Baal-Hammon...those types who vote Molech are bad


Because the Simpleston binary thinking is easier than spectroscopy, gray thinking, no other shades, its just black and white pieces no layers of sounds colors, no different groups and factions to watch.

is it Godless Satanic Masons as PirateNews said, that sounds a bit crazy... others lie about their religion to "protect it" from the goyim the kuffaar, the Kafir often translated as 'infidel'.


maybe it all really went to crap with JFK shot and Nixon removed


and perhaps what you see now is the controlled stage production, focus your energy on Kabuki Theater the Punch and Judy show but its all controlled

Just look at how the Uni-Party votes on issues and then you get clues it was stolen many, many decades ago

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Thursday, July 25, 2024 8:50 AM

In the last few hours, 270towin moved ME to the tossup column.
All 4 EVs, from 4 for Biden to 4 tossup.
I had heard ME was trending to Trump, but conjured it was 3 EVs, with 1 staying Libtard.

But for both Districts to switch to sense at once? That is impressive.

When this happened, their totals had 81 tossup. A few hours ago, it was 77 EV tossup. An earlier version I noticed was 61 tossup, missing GA.

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Wednesday, July 31, 2024 6:54 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
In the last few hours, 270towin moved ME to the tossup column.
All 4 EVs, from 4 for Biden to 4 tossup.
I had heard ME was trending to Trump, but conjured it was 3 EVs, with 1 staying Libtard.

But for both Districts to switch to sense at once? That is impressive.

When this happened, their totals had 81 tossup. A few hours ago, it was 77 EV tossup. An earlier version I noticed was 61 tossup, missing GA.

I was referring to the chart map at 270towin.com
But there is another at 270towin.com/news/

https://uselectionatlas.org/

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