Is george lucas a firefly fan?

POSTED BY: fireflyfan23
UPDATED: Thursday, February 17, 2005 14:16
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FIREFLYFAN23

Wednesday, February 16, 2005 6:23 AM

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So why was she acting like that?

Because it was in the script?.

IAMZOE

Wednesday, February 16, 2005 9:31 AM

I guess you're right, Fireflyfan23. Though she does often act quite similarly in other films. Perhaps she's just been unlucky with good scripts for female actresses.

Though in the script for Garden State, I have to say there were some good ideas - the silent velcro was genius :)

THEDARKSHAPE

Wednesday, February 16, 2005 9:44 AM

Portman's been fairly stale in the prequels, and I say that as a huge fan of them. I think she's just been a bit bored of her character thus far, though word is she's a lot better in Revenge of the Sith (Lucas actually let the actors improv for a change -- loosens 'em up).

Christensen's a really good actor, as evidenced by Life As a House and Shattered Glass. Even he felt Anakin was simply too much of a whiny teenager in AOTC and asked George if he can cut it back a bit, but GL wants there to be a major contrast between Ep. II Anakin and Ep. III Anakin/Vader.

TOMANTA

Wednesday, February 16, 2005 2:30 PM

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Originally posted by iamzoe:
I guess you're right, Fireflyfan23. Though she does often act quite similarly in other films. Perhaps she's just been unlucky with good scripts for female actresses.

I disagree. Her character in Garden State was very unlike most of the other characters I have seen her play (watch Closer... if you aren't easily offended. Watch her first film, The Professional. I guess Where the Heart Is she's sorta similar to G.S., but not quite to that extreme). The main thing her roles have in common is that her characters are all emotionally older than their actual age (with the possible exception of Garden State).

In any case, there's more to her character in GS than just the sillyness. The sillyness is part upbringing, part of just trying to deal with the world. Oh, and the script was written by Zach Braff... I don't think he has ever worked in a lawyer's office :).

"Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government."

IAMZOE

Thursday, February 17, 2005 10:17 AM

I haven't seen Closer: the reviews kind of put me off (I read some that said it didn't translate well from stage to screen and there was a bit too much unrealistic chat) - as well as the presence of the lovely Natalie of course. Maybe I should give it a shot.

I just couldn't see past the kooky aspect of her Garden State character though, Tomanta, I just didn't feel there was much to her. For example, she didn't seem to have many friends - and the whole lawyers office thing just bugged me! It was like they had decided she needed a job, but no real thought had been put into why she would ever want to work there. (Though that is really a script problem rather than an acting problem, like the person above said - I'd just thought that since, to me, it seemed like she always chose similar roles, that that was what the actress liked to play best). I just can't imagine any kind of kookiness surviving a lawyers office... though maybe all legal stuff in the US is like Erin Brokovich (!). Or something... Zach Braff was surprisingly good though, for a guy I always just associated with Scrubs.

By the way, where does the 'lady in the lake' line come from? I like it...

SAFFY

Thursday, February 17, 2005 10:41 AM

"Closer" is a great film, but it's not a feel-good film. I found it especially awkward to watch with someone I love, because it's all about how people can justify selfish actions like infidelity, and how anyone is capable of lying, so you never know. (And if someone cheated to be /with/ you, how can you ever trust them?)

It's hard to watch in places. I think Natalie Portman deserves an Oscar for her role, though. She blew me away.

Episodes 1-3 would have been so much better if Lucas had swallowed his ego and let someone else do the actual writing. The love scene flopped, IMO, because the dialogue was AWFUL!

TOMANTA

Thursday, February 17, 2005 2:16 PM

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Originally posted by iamzoe:
I haven't seen Closer: the reviews kind of put me off (I read some that said it didn't translate well from stage to screen and there was a bit too much unrealistic chat) - as well as the presence of the lovely Natalie of course. Maybe I should give it a shot.

I just couldn't see past the kooky aspect of her Garden State character though, Tomanta, I just didn't feel there was much to her. For example, she didn't seem to have many friends - and the whole lawyers office thing just bugged me! It was like they had decided she needed a job, but no real thought had been put into why she would ever want to work there. (Though that is really a script problem rather than an acting problem, like the person above said - I'd just thought that since, to me, it seemed like she always chose similar roles, that that was what the actress liked to play best). I just can't imagine any kind of kookiness surviving a lawyers office... though maybe all legal stuff in the US is like Erin Brokovich (!). Or something... Zach Braff was surprisingly good though, for a guy I always just associated with Scrubs.

By the way, where does the 'lady in the lake' line come from? I like it...

Closer... well, I haven't seen it on stage but I'd say it did translate pretty well. Too well, in that it feels more like they filmed a play than made a movie at times (not a bad thing). Most of the complaints were that the ending was changed, but it was only changed a little bit (the last scene was left off). As for unrealistic chat... how is that different than ANY movie?

Garden State: She works at the lawyers office because of the great insurance. I'd have to watch the scene again, but I remember getting the impression that she didn't particularly like the job but stayed because of that.

While it's not demonstrated well I think it's reasonably clear that she can restrain the 'kookiness'. Most of it is seen early in the film, which could imply it was at least partially a reaction to being attracted to Zach's character, maybe a defense mechanism due to bad experiences in her past. In any case, just a differing opinion... I found the character perfectly realistic. Not someone you would meet everyday, but that was part of the point, too. (I'm assuming she has friends and we just didn't see them :).

And my sig is from Monty Python & The Holy Grail :).

"Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government."

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