Russia Invades Ukraine. Again
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Russia accuses Ukraine of killing 65 of its own PoWs by shooting down plane
Reuters
January 24, 20246:24 PM UTCUpdated ago
Summary
Russian military transport plane crashes
All 74 people on board are dead, Russia says
Moscow accuses Ukraine of shooting it down
Ukrainian officials remain silent for hours
Ukraine does not confirm prisoners on board
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-il-76-military-transport-
plane-crashes-near-ukrainian-border-russian-2024-01-24/
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The IL-76 Shootdown By A US Patriot Missile Could Lead To Zaluzhny's Replacement With Budanov
Andrew Korybko
Jan 24, 2024
All things considered, blaming Zaluzhny – perhaps by claiming that he should have verified alleged intelligence about the IL-76’s cargo before shooting it down in order to make this seem like an unfortunate accident – is the most politically convenient option at Zelensky and his US patron’s disposal. It could shift the blame from them to him and facilitate Zaluzhny’s replacement with the much more politically reliable Budanov without much resistance from the armed forces or civil society.
Kiev shot down a Russian Il-76 military transport plane carrying 65 Ukrainian POWs as it was flying over the border region of Belgorod on Wednesday. Patriot missiles were reportedly used during the attack, which was carried out with the aid of American instructors. The regime was informed of the flight ahead of time and was aware that it was carrying its detained troops. The planned swap has now been called off and questions are swirling about why Kiev would kill its own POWs.
CNN ridiculously suggested that it might have been a case of friendly fire by drawing attention to a prior air alert and drone interception an hour before the incident, while some Ukrainian sources circulated the conspiracy theory that the plane was allegedly carrying only S-300 air defense missiles onboard. The first narrative is meant to smear the reputation of the Russian Armed Forces while the second is a “face-saving” deflection from Kiev’s culpability for what happened.
MORE AT https://korybko.substack.com/p/the-il-76-shootdown-by-a-us-patriot
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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger
Loving America is like loving an addicted spouse - SIGNYM
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Quote:Russia has a colorful past at shooting down planes. For example: Malaysia Airlines flight 17 was shot down by Russia and Putin denies Russia had anything to do with it and he won’t extradite the convicted murderers.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Summary
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_17
How Yevgeny Prigozhin was killed suggests Putin wanted to show how he deals with traitors. Putin denied he did this.
https://carnegieendowment.org/politika/90436
https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/vladimir-putin-ordered-this-
man-to-kill-wagner-chief-yevgeny-prigozhin-report-101703237345900.html
It would be typical if Putin destroyed a plane today to send a message to Ukraine. Maybe the message is that when Russia transports ammo by plane, there will also be Ukrainian POWs onboard. Putin has plenty of planes and prisoners. Why not lose a plane and see what kind of Russian accusations the world will believe? What is one more lie from Putin? See Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 or Putin blowing up an airplane to assassinate Yevgeny Prigozhin.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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MH17 was NOT shot down by Russians
No Russian gave the order or fired the missile.
The closest that the court could place Russia to the shoot down was providing air defense missiles, which, in a breathtaking example of lawfare, is equivalent to "murder".
That makes as much sense as charging a car dealership with murder bc someone used their car to run down a bunch of people.
You REALLY can't stop lying, can you??
And you can't stop accusing people of things they haven't done either.
Get in touch with reality. It'll be a refreshing change.
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Quote:Did Putin tell you this is The Truth? Just curious about where you buy your customized version of The Truth.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
MH17 was NOT shot down by Russians
No Russian gave the order or fired the missile.
The closest that the court could place Russia to the shoot down was providing air defense missiles, which, in a breathtaking example of lawfare, is equivalent to "murder".
That makes as much sense as charging a car dealership with murder bc someone used their car to run down a bunch of people.
You REALLY can't stop lying, can you??
And you can't stop accusing people of things they haven't done either.
Russia convicts Putin-critic MH17 killer for ‘inciting extremism’
Extreme nationalist Igor Girkin gets four-year prison term.
By Sergey Goryashko | January 25, 2024 12:17 pm CET
The MH17 killer has been sentenced, but not in the Netherlands, not for life, and not for the murder of 298 people.
Igor Girkin, a pro-war Russian nationalist, was instead found to be complaining too much on social media about President Vladimir Putin’s leadership of the war against Ukraine.
A court in Moscow on Thursday found Girkin guilty on charges of inciting extremism after his series of diatribes against the Russian leader . . .
More at https://www.politico.eu/article/igor-girkin-strelkov-mh17-extremism-uk
raine-war-russia/
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No end in sight
Defiant Russian rhetoric left little hope of negotiations any time soon.
“The existence of Ukraine is mortally dangerous for Ukrainians,” wrote Dmitry Medvedev, the deputy head of Russia’s powerful Security Council, on the Telegram messaging app.
“The presence of an independent state on historical Russian territories will now be a constant reason for the resumption of hostilities,” he said, elucidating an irredentist** policy towards all of Ukraine.
“There is a 100 percent probability of a new conflict,” Medvedev said, even if Ukraine entered the EU and NATO. “This could happen in ten or fifty years.”
Some in Europe took Russia at its word.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/1/24/drones-strike-deep-in-russia-
as-medvedev-threatens-ukraines-existence
** A irredentist is a person advocating the restoration to their country of any territory formerly belonging to it. What is the difference between a Revanchist and an irredentist?
Irredentism is closely related to revanchism and secession. Revanchism is an attempt to annex territory belonging to another state. It is motivated by the goal of taking revenge for a previous grievance, in contrast to the goal of irredentism of building an ethnically unified nation-state.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irredentism
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Fuck Ukraine, Fuck Russia, Fuck Israel, Fuck Palestine.
America Supports Texas.
https://twitter.com/GregAbbott_TX/status/1750235544951349275/photo/1
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Political correctness is just tyranny, with a smiley face.
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Quote:What is Gov. Gregg Abbott, the whiny cripple in a wheelchair, barking about? I quote him: "The failure of the Biden Administration to fulfill the duties imposed by Article IV. § 4"
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Fuck Ukraine, Fuck Russia, Fuck Israel, Fuck Palestine.
America Supports Texas.
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Political correctness is just tyranny, with a smiley face.
What does that part of Constitution say? This:
Section 4. The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government, and shall protect each of them against invasion; and on application of the legislature, or of the executive (when the legislature cannot be convened) against domestic violence.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articleiv
If the Constitution is important to Gov Abbott, he cannot wait until Trump is President in January 20, 2025. If Gov Gregg Abbott was not a pantywaist, he'd today order the Texas Rangers to kill any children they see illegally crossing the border. The adults would get the message and go back their original countries, wherever that is. But Abbott won't because he is a coward afraid of a grand jury charging him with murder for hire. If murder is Abbott's problem, maybe he could wound them with a mere flesh wound, or throw dirt in their little faces, or yell at them to stay off his lawn.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Originally posted by second:Quote:What is Gov. Gregg Abbott, the whiny cripple in a wheelchair, barking about? I quote him: "The failure of the Biden Administration to fulfill the duties imposed by Article IV. § 4"
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Fuck Ukraine, Fuck Russia, Fuck Israel, Fuck Palestine.
America Supports Texas.
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Political correctness is just tyranny, with a smiley face.
What does that part of Constitution say? This:
Section 4. The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government, and shall protect each of them against invasion; and on application of the legislature, or of the executive (when the legislature cannot be convened) against domestic violence.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articleiv
If the Constitution is important to Gov Abbott, he cannot wait until Trump is President in January 20, 2025. If Gov Gregg Abbott was not a pantywaist, he'd today order the Texas Rangers to kill any children they see illegally crossing the border. The adults would get the message and go back their original countries, wherever that is. But Abbott won't because he is a coward afraid of a grand jury charging him with murder for hire. If murder is Abbott's problem, maybe he could wound them with a mere flesh wound, or throw dirt in their little faces, or yell at them to stay off his lawn.
If Joe Biden* doesn't want to do anything about it, then he can just get the fuck out of Abbot's way.
We The People are done with this shitshow of a DEI administration that is ruining our country.
If you don't like it, you can get the fuck out of our country too.
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Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
MH17 was NOT shot down by Russians
No Russian gave the order or fired the missile.
The closest that the court could place Russia to the shoot down was providing air defense missiles, which, in a breathtaking example of lawfare, is equivalent to "murder".
That makes as much sense as charging a car dealership with murder bc someone used their car to run down a bunch of people.
You REALLY can't stop lying, can you??
And you can't stop accusing people of things they haven't done either.
SECOND:
Russia convicts Putin-critic MH17 killer for ‘inciting extremism’
This is where I got my info:
Quote:
The three convicted men all played key roles in and transporting the Buk system and its crew into Ukraine, the court ruled, though it found there was insufficient evidence to determine who fired the missile.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/17/europe/mh17-trial-verdict-intl/index.ht
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The article is warped bc it gives the impression that Girkin was with the Buk, but phone call intercepts show he was elsewhere. Even the fact that there are phone call intercepts between the Buk crew and Girkin prove that he wasn't there ... why would they be calling him if they could talk to him right there?
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Other prominent individuals that JIT said were mentioned in the intercepts include Igor Girkin ...
https://www.voanews.com/a/europe_mh17-investigators-release-phone-inte
rcepts-links-russia/6179406.html
Quote:
`Ukraine's security agency [I woonder if they lied back then as much as they do now??] has claimed that they have intercepted phone calls between Russian military officers and pro-Russian separatists with the rebels claiming responsibility for shooting down a Malaysian plane killing all 298 people on board, a media report said on Friday.
The Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 flight MH17 was blown up over Eastern Ukraine by a sophisticated BAK surface-to-air missile believed to be fired by pro-Russia rebels.
One of the calls apparently was made at 4.40 pm Kiev time, or 20 minutes after the plane crash, by a separatist identified as Igor Bezler, to a separatist commander and Russian intelligence officer Vasili Geranin, the Kyiv Post reported.
In the transcript released by Ukraine's security agency SBU, Bezler says: “We have just shot down a plane. It fell down beyond Yenakievo (Donetsk Oblast)."
"The plane fell apart in the air. In the area of Petropavlovskaya mine. The first 200. We have found the first 200 - a civilian," Major says, referring to the codeword for a dead person, it said.
The second intercepted signal was apparently between militants codenamed "Major" and "Greek" immediately upon inspection of the crash site.
"It's 100 per cent a passenger (civilian) aircraft," Major is recorded as saying, as he admitted to seeing no weapons on site. "Absolutely nothing. Civilian items, medicinal stuff, towels, toilet paper," according to the transcript.
The paper also posted part of a third conversation between "Cossack commander Nikolay Kozitsin" and an unidentified militant.
"They say on TV it's AN-26 transport plane, but they say it's written Malaysia Airlines on the plane. What was it doing on Ukraine's territory?"
Kozitsin replies: "That means they were carrying spies. They shouldn't be f***ing flying. There is a war going on."
Military analysts have speculated that militants mistook the passenger jet for a military aircraft.
https://m.rediff.com/news/report/mh17-signals-intercepts-reveal-rebels
-claiming-responsibility/20140718.htm
The people convicted were guilty of making the Buk available to separatists. But because they couldn't identify the ACTUAL CRE
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Quote:You are lazy, Signym, and late.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Stop rewriting history.
And, in general, stop lying! Your posts are utter bullcrap and I dont like having to correct you so often. And I even let most of your bullshit go bc pointing out your lies would be a full-time job.
The District Court of The Hague on 17 November 2022 sentenced the accused Kharchenko, Dubinskiy and Girkin to life imprisonment for causing Flight MH17 to crash and for the murder of the 298 persons on board. Defendant Pulatov has been acquitted.
https://www.prosecutionservice.nl/topics/mh17-plane-crash
Putin's tiny fingerprints are on the murder weapon.
JIT MH17: strong indications that Russian president decided on supplying Buk
News item | 08-02-2023 | 13:00
There are strong indications that the Russian president decided on supplying the Buk TELAR to the DPR separatists. This is the conclusion of the Joint Investigation Team (JIT) in its investigation into those responsible in the Russian Federation for the downing of flight MH17 with a Buk missile. The JIT has shared its findings with the next of kin of the 298 victims and published a report. Although a lot of new information has been discovered about various people involved, the evidence is at the moment not concrete enough to lead to new prosecutions.
https://www.prosecutionservice.nl/topics/mh17-plane-crash/news/2023/02
/08/jit-mh17-strong-indications-that-russian-president-decided-on-supplying-buk
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