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Russia Invades Ukraine. Again

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Tuesday, January 23, 2024 4:41 AM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Every time you resort to personal insults means you have no intelligent answer.

This is not a debating society where there is a judge to decide who wins the debate. And it is not a war where there is a well-aimed bullet to decide who lost. It is more like a school for the retarded where the students think they're smarter than their therapists. At the wages therapists are paid, the retards might be right.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

Personal insults = no intelligent answers.

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Tuesday, January 23, 2024 6:48 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Personal insults = no intelligent answers.

Signym, you have never explained why Russians are impoverished compared to the EU. It is because they are living their lives wrong. Signym, you have never even tried explaining why Russians had to kill 100,000,000 Russians, not Germans, to achieve what little they have. Instead, you claim it either didn't happen or doesn't matter since the time of mass murder has passed. The Russians are living wrong and have been for centuries. 6ixStringJack is living wrong in the same way as Russians. 6ix could move around a great land, using his wittiness to prosper. Instead, he lives in relative poverty compared to the EU while he writes long columns about the failures of Disney as proof Trump will win in 2024. 6ix is wasting life, as are the Russians.

6ixStringJack's "The 2023 Disney Failure Thread"
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=36&tid=65637&p=1

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, January 23, 2024 6:52 PM

Russian officials and information space actors are attempting to further rhetorically justify Russia’s invasion of Ukraine by misrepresenting a decree that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky signed on January 22 concerning discrimination against ethnic Ukrainians in Russia. Zelensky’s decree does not establish any territorial demands upon Russia, as select Russian ultranationalists falsely claimed.[28]

Russian officials purposefully misrepresented the decree to further justify Russia’s full-scale invasion and made further genocidal appeals to the destruction of Ukrainian statehood and ethnic identity. Kursk Oblast Governor Roman Starovoyt called the decree a blatant distortion of history and argued that it shows that Russian President Vladimir Putin was correct to invade Ukraine.[29] Starovoyt’s response suggests that Russian officials and actors may continue to misrepresent the decree as an ex post facto casus belli to falsely assert that Russia’s unprovoked invasion of Ukraine in February 2022 was defensive in nature. Russian Security Council Deputy Chairperson Dmitry Medvedev responded to the decree and reiterated longstanding Kremlin rhetoric that aims to erase Ukrainian ethnic identity by asserting that ethnic Ukrainians are ethnically Russian.[30] Medvedev also stated that “Malorossiya” (Little Russia) is part of Russia — a pseudo-historical Kremlin talking point that Russian officials routinely invoke to deny Ukrainian territorial integrity and sovereignty.[31] The Kremlin has repeatedly used the concept of “compatriots abroad,” which includes ethnic Russian and Russian speakers of other ethnicities, to justify the war in Ukraine and aggression in other neighboring states, and Russian officials and ultranationalists may be primed to view legitimate appeals to protecting compatriots abroad as similar pretexts for aggressive actions.[32]

Russia has historically had a policy to Russify ethnic minorities living within Russian territory, and Zelensky’s decree coincides with wider Russian animus towards non-ethnic Russians within Russia that extends far beyond ethnic Ukrainian communities.[33] The Russian ultranationalist community continues to seize on incidents involving migrants and non-ethnic Russians to express growing hostility towards diaspora communities and non-ethnic Russian minorities within Russia.[34] Russian officials and ultranationalists may attempt to frame states’ legitimate concerns about growing Russian domestic animus towards their diaspora communities and Russia's history of discriminatory policies as anti-Russian and inherently escalatory.

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-january-22-2024


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, January 23, 2024 11:18 PM


SECOND, EVEN SNOPES SAYS YOU'RE LYING.

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Did Putin Declare the 1867 Sale of Alaska to the US 'Illegal' in January 2024?

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In January 2024, Russian President Vladimir Putin declared that the 1867 sale of Alaska to the United States was "illegal."

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https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/putin-alaska-illegal/






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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

Loving America is like loving an addicted spouse - SIGNYM


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Wednesday, January 24, 2024 12:38 AM

Did Russia illegally invade Ukraine? No, because Russia already owns Ukraine. Just ask pettifogging Putin. If Russia invades Alaska, the same old argument will come out to justify it as perfectly legal. If the UN takes up the question of legality, Russia will block the vote because it has an absolute veto at the UN.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, January 24, 2024 12:42 AM

The Cheese-Eating Surrender Monkeys Do As Little As They Think They Can Decently Get Away With

Ukraine war ‘a battle of ammo’ says NATO as it agrees "huge" arms deal (It is NOT huge)

Alliance seeks to bulk up Ukraine’s dwindling arsenal as Russia ramps up attacks.

Published On 23 Jan 2024

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/1/23/nato-head-warns-war-in-ukrain
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NATO has signed a large ammunition deal that it says would help it supply Ukraine with desperately needed stocks.

The military alliance announced on Tuesday that it has signed a deal worth 1.1 billion euros ($1.2bn) to buy artillery shells. The move comes amid intensified exchanges of fire between Russia and Ukraine since the end of last year, which have depleted the latter’s weapons stockpiles.

NATO greenlit the purchase of 220,000 rounds of 155mm ammunition, the most widely sought-after artillery shell, noting that bulk buying for member states should ensure lower prices. Sources said the ammunition would be supplied by French arms maker Nexter and Germany’s Junghans.

Price per shell is US$5,455. Is the high price because of fast delivery? Nope. NATO noted that the shells bought under the new deal will not arrive for two to three years. At the rate Ukraine is firing shells (4,000 to 7,000 per day) 220,000 shells will last between 31 days and 55 days.

“This is important to defend our own territory, to build up our own stocks, but also to continue to support Ukraine,” said NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg.

“The war in Ukraine has become a battle of ammunition,” he told reporters. “We cannot allow President [Vladimir] Putin to win in Ukraine … That would be a tragedy for the Ukrainians and dangerous for all of us.”

As progress on the front line has stalled in recent months, Russia and Ukraine have doubled down on exchanges of fire using artillery, missiles and drones.

However, Russia’s arms industry far outweighs Ukraine’s and Kyiv is struggling to secure both financing and weapons supplies from its Western allies needed to continue competing with Moscow’s firepower.

According to European Union estimates, Ukraine was firing approximately 4,000 to 7,000 artillery shells each day last summer, while Russia was launching more than 20,000 shells daily in its neighbour’s territory.

Although the European Union fell short of its pledge to supply one million artillery rounds in 2023, officials have said that they expect the European defence industry to raise production by the end of this year.

Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk on Monday was the latest foreign leader to visit the country, announcing a loan to buy larger weapons and commitments on joint manufacturing.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, January 24, 2024 1:47 AM

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Originally posted by second:
Did Russia illegally invade Ukraine? No, because Russia already owns Ukraine. Just ask pettifogging Putin. If Russia invades Alaska, the same old argument will come out to justify it as perfectly legal. If the UN takes up the question of legality, Russia will block the vote because it has an absolute veto at the UN.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


SECOND, EVEN SNOPES SAYS YOU'RE LYING.





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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

Loving America is like loving an addicted spouse - SIGNYM


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Wednesday, January 24, 2024 2:29 AM

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Wednesday, January 24, 2024 3:58 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

SECOND, EVEN SNOPES SAYS YOU'RE LYING.


Newsweek has not retracted the story. https://www.newsweek.com/putin-decree-triggers-ominous-alaska-calls-te
rritory-empire-soviet-union-1862689


Your best next move, Signym, is to write that Russia has not formally declared war on "Alaska", but then Russia has not formally declared war on "Ukraine", either. What the EU wishes to call a "War" is simply a special military operation in the part of Russia called "Ukraine" by the EU, but there was never a country called "Ukraine" per Putin. It is an imaginary country to Putin, the same as the world of Firefly.

Putin could turn his imaginary "Ukraine" into a funnier joke by making exaggerated air quotes when he says the word "Ukraine". The "Ukrainians" are "Little Russians" who want to join their family with their Big Russian Brothers' family and nothing more.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, January 24, 2024 4:19 AM

Newsweek publishes alottacrap.
Take it up with Snopes if you don't like what they posted.

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Loving America is like loving an addicted spouse - SIGNYM


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