Cinema

The Covid Cinematic Wasteland

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UPDATED: Thursday, December 7, 2023 05:36
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Monday, December 4, 2023 9:00 AM

People obviously will go in full force to see movies that are worth seeing. The fact that we have 4 movies post-Covid theater shutdown that have grossed well over $1 Billion, and several others that got close to a Billion are proof of this.

But the days of Disney/Marvel making $1 Billion+ every time they put something out and DC flicks grossing $500 Million to $1 Billion+ are long gone.

It didn't have to be that way. They chose not only to oversaturate the market and show the same story with a different wrapper over and over and over again, but they race and gender swapped them needlessly into oblivion on top of it.

It's not as if they didn't have a barometer for how that would pan out. Just look at the source material. The comic book industry itself is on life-support after firing all the white males that used to run it and replacing them all with diversity hires that self-insert at every opportunity and couldn't write a good story to save their lives.

Get woke. Go broke.

Period.

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Monday, December 4, 2023 10:28 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
People obviously will go in full force to see movies that are worth seeing. The fact that we have 4 movies post-Covid theater shutdown that have grossed well over $1 Billion, and several others that got close to a Billion are proof of this.
. . .

Get woke. Go broke.

Period.

Good heavens, 6ix. You are stupid. The people still going to the movie theaters are teenagers escaping from their parents and socializing with their friends.

I know why people are not going. Here is a highly-rated movie that you can watch at home for free. Why go out? Hollywood was worried 60 years ago that TV would decrease ticket sales. It did. Now TV is even better than 60 years ago and, once again, it is reducing ticket sales.

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Killers of American history, their politicization of business and the dividing of America
Conservative media has become an outrage factory, targeting products and dividing America.

By Chris Tomlinson

I think the only thing conservative media has going for it is racial grievance, convincing older white people of their imminent demise if they don’t elect white supremacists. Bankrupted of ideas, these billionaire-financed outlets have become nothing more than outrage factories.

Conservative media wants to make every aspect of American life political. Want a vaccination? Woke! Don’t want to pay taxes? Righteous! Want renewable energy? Woke! Want a military-style rifle? Righteous! Electric vehicles? Woke!

Why? Because powerful people with financial interests vulnerable to human progress want voters to elect backward politicians who will protect their profits.

So, partisans work to make every consumer purchase a political talisman.
Which is why 6ixStringJack keeps predicting. His politics require him to do that.

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, December 4, 2023 11:07 PM

The same thing that happened to music in the recent past is now happening to movies:

U.S. Recorded Music Sales Volumes by Format
1973 to 2022, Format(s): All

https://www.riaa.com/u-s-sales-database/

People have almost stopped buying vinyl records and compact disks for music because they had to go shopping to buy those. Now they don't go shopping. They get music over the internet. People are not buying as many movie tickets because they have to go to the theater to use the tickets. Instead, they get movies more and more the same way they get music, over the internet.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, December 4, 2023 11:29 PM

Is it curtains for the big screen?

A disruptive new idea is dividing Hollywood’s biggest film-makers — and threatening the future of cinema

By Tom Shone | May 23 2016
https://www.ft.com/content/0b17ede8-1c1c-11e6-a7bc-ee846770ec15

If the cinema is dying, no one seems to have told the crowds at the annual powwow of Hollywood’s distribution chiefs. At Caesars Palace in Las Vegas, the stars are out in force: Will Smith, Jennifer Lawrence, Chris Pratt, Russell Crowe and, by video-link, Tom Cruise and Vin Diesel. Upstairs, vendors hawk their latest audience-enticing gizmos, from $2,500 leather chairs and state-of-the-art wine-vending machines to bespoke 3D glasses, 4D seating systems — and bite-sized Snickers bars.

There’s one new venture, however, that seems decidedly unwelcome at CinemaCon. Sean Parker, creator of the file-sharing website Napster and one-time scourge of the music industry, has pointedly not been asked to present in public his newest project, The Screening Room.

Parker’s proposal is radical: a video-on-demand system that would allow people to stream films the same day that they arrive in cinemas, enabled by a $150 set-top box and costing about $50 a movie. It has the potential to upend an industry that has been reluctant to come to terms with the rise of all things digital, and continues to focus its marketing and publicity might on a film’s opening weekend in cinemas.

The loudest cheers of the convention are reserved for the film-makers who dare to take potshots at Parker’s scheme. “Why are we in a rush to turn movies into TV shows?” asks Todd Phillips, director of the three Hangover films. Kevin Tsujihara, chief executive of Warner Bros Entertainment, tries to assuage the fears of cinema owners: “I assure you,” he says, “we are not going to let a third party or middleman come between us.”

Parker and co keep a low profile, meeting behind closed doors with executives while their proposal becomes the conference’s piñata. For the most part, The Screening Room goes unnamed, but James Cameron, who announces that he will be making four sequels to Avatar, won’t be cowed.

“Despite what the folks at The Screening Room say, I think movies need to be offered in the theatre on opening day,” he declares, to cheers. “So boom!”

. . . .

Perched on the San Andreas Fault, sandwiched between ocean and desert, Hollywood is an apocalyptic town, long imagining itself on the verge of extinction. Even so, the signs that its traditional business model is under attack are everywhere. According to the National Association of Theatre Owners, US movie attendance peaked in 2002 and has been steadily declining ever since. To compensate, theatres have rolled out new technologies such as 3D, Imax and premium large-format cinemas, raising their ticket prices and thus keeping the box office at record-breaking levels.

But those broken records are an illusion — fewer people paying more money. The majority of us are increasingly staying home. At Cannes this year, the studio with the most films in competition — including Jim Jarmusch’s Paterson and Nicolas Winding Refn’s The Neon Demon — and also the festival’s opener, Woody Allen’s Café Society, was not one of the big studios, but the streaming service Amazon.

“We have to adapt,” said JJ Abrams at CinemaCon, to what he called the “age of piracy, digital technology and disruption”. Walking the red carpet before a party at Parker’s Bel Air residence a few weeks later, The Lord of the Rings director Peter Jackson, who with Abrams, Steven Spielberg and Martin Scorsese is one of a handful of key film-makers to support the Screening Room proposal, was franker. “Fifty per cent of Americans did not step into a movie theatre last year, and of the 50 per cent that did go into a theatre, 95 per cent of them went to one or two films,” he said. “That’s the people we are trying to target.”

Neither Jackson, Spielberg, Abrams nor Scorsese can be accused of being enemies of the medium, and nor are they inclined to vote against their own interest as film-makers.

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Tuesday, December 5, 2023 1:54 AM

You are full of shit and not even worth debating.

Everything you just said is wrong.

It should be a very familiar feeling to you.


Stick around long enough, and I'll be tracking the rise-again of Hollywood after they've purged the idiocy.

Every argument you and I have ever had ends up going my way when given time.

We're playing Chess here, dummy. You're never going to win if you keep playing checkers.



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Tuesday, December 5, 2023 4:17 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
You are full of shit and not even worth debating.

Everything you just said is wrong.

It should be a very familiar feeling to you.


Stick around long enough, and I'll be tracking the rise-again of Hollywood after they've purged the idiocy.

Every argument you and I have ever had ends up going my way when given time.

We're playing Chess here, dummy. You're never going to win if you keep playing checkers.


Seven years ago, Hollywood was in denial about what streaming could do to ticket sales in theaters, but Hollywood will go the same way as the music industry has gone. Few CDs and vinyl records are sold and, eventually, few theater tickets will be sold. Live music shows still exist and, perhaps, Hollywood will invent something as compelling. Hollywood tried 3D and IMAX and Dolby Atmos Cinema Sound. Maybe those three, or something better, will save the theaters from slowly going extinct.

U.S. Recorded Music Sales Volumes by Format
1973 to 2022, Format(s): All

https://www.riaa.com/u-s-sales-database/


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, December 5, 2023 4:58 AM

They need to start making good content again.

They're all losing money on streaming. If movie theaters die, Hollywood dies.

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Tuesday, December 5, 2023 5:08 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
They need to start making good content again.

They're all losing money on streaming. If movie theaters die, Hollywood dies.

Ha-ha! You sound like those oldsters in the 60's complaining about Elvis Presley and the Beatles. If only there were more singers like Doris Day and Frank Sinatra at the Coconut Grove . . .

Hollywood should make more musicals (Sound of Music, South Pacific, Oliver!) and Westerns. That's The Future of Entertainment. Or maybe not.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, December 5, 2023 7:35 AM

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Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
They need to start making good content again.

They're all losing money on streaming. If movie theaters die, Hollywood dies.

Ha-ha! You sound like those oldsters in the 60's complaining about Elvis Presley and the Beatles. If only there were more singers like Doris Day and Frank Sinatra at the Coconut Grove . . .

Hollywood should make more musicals (Sound of Music, South Pacific, Oliver!) and Westerns. That's The Future of Entertainment. Or maybe not.



Sure I do.

I remember when you told me that Lightyear wasn't made for me.

Then it grossed only $218 Million worldwide on a $200 Million budget and lost over $250 Million for Disney.

Then in 2023 Disney managed to lose over $1.8 Billion at the box office when Universal somehow has managed to earn $1.5 Billion.

I don't know, buddy. Universal seems to be doing something right, seeing as how it's pulled in nearly $4 Billion gross worldwide on only $1 Billion on combined production budgets in 2023.


Your problem is you don't look at the data. Disney's problem is I've recorded it all for the year.

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Wednesday, December 6, 2023 6:02 AM

Here's what I noticed since 'Covid' hit and then post-Covid that whole SJW Diversity gay lesbian islamic Black Transexual quota that is making everything 'Hollyweird'


Movies are selling and shows are again making some money but they might not be as big as they were...some hits Topgun remake, Reacher, Spider-Man No Way Home, Oppenheimer, Barbie....but overall I would say Hollywood is flopping
A Disney show 'The Mandalorian' did ok for a while but they seem to have ruined it
The epic past runs of Scifi tv shows might be done for a while
Trends which do not change, reality tv, cooking shows, detective shows like NCIS: Hawai’i or some Xfactor America idol will have high ratings
Sportsball or News or some Gameshow of course will sell better or 'The View' as Most-Watched Daytime Talk Show


The Video Games and Comicbooks are not selling like they used to, people play old games, read old comics and buy Manga comics and Japanese Animation product from overseas. In the past Marvel and DC have dominated, you did have indie brands 'Image' comics or the French waves or British Dredd but I never seen it this bad, Marvel and DC took over the market, cold to other ideas they got big and now they have crashed it all and anything from Japan is selling better.

The Flash flops, Blue Beetle, Indiana Jones remake flop, The Marvels...they are all flopping

Indie film has grown, the slasher the horror genre is back, some tried to cancel the creator of FNaF but the product made big money.

Foreign video game brands like 'Mario' sold

People are watching foreign and oldies movie products, the South Korean Squid Games, South Korean Vigilante, South Korea's Moving tv show, German 1899, Japan Godzilla, a Japanese anime SPY x FAMILY, the Spanish 30 Coins, En helt vanlig family, American's are watching shows and movies with 'subtitles' I never thought I would see the day and they will even watch reruns of old Home Alone, Halloween broadcasts and cinema showings, Scot Pilgrim or old Dragon Ball Z than something hip and hyped and 'current'

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