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Russia Invades Ukraine. Again

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Tuesday, November 28, 2023 8:14 PM

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Originally posted by second:
Russia’s attempt to artificially create a migrant crisis at the Finnish border appears to be failing due to Finnish authorities’ swift response. Finnish Prime Minister Petteri Orpo stated on November 27 that the Finnish government will close the last border crossing with Russia “if necessary” and reported that the Finnish government is ready to take unspecified additional measures in response to Russia’s artificially generated migrant crisis.[20] Finland previously closed three checkpoints on the Finnish-Russian border on November 23, leaving only its northernmost border crossing open.[21] Several other Finnish government officials also signaled their support for closing the entire border with Russia.[22] A Russian insider source claimed that Russian Presidential Administration First Deputy Head Sergei Kiriyenko instructed Russian Ministry of Internal Affairs (MVD) Head Vladimir Kolokoltsev to gather migrants from the Middle East, Africa, and other regions to send them to the Finnish border.[23] The insider source complained that Finnish border authorities stopped most migrants from crossing into Finland and that Russian authorities must now settle the migrants in Russia.[24]

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-november-27-2023


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



Good for the Finns.

Stopping Putin from doing to them what Democrats do to their own People every day.



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THG
Tuesday, November 28, 2023 11:39 PM

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
What an evil selfish prick Putin is. Does anyone but him benefit from this? And now? After 2 years of covid crap? Kill thousands and crash the world economy so he can redraw a MAP?!?? What fcking dinosaur. I look forward to watching this blow up in his face.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/23/world/europe/putin-speech-russia-uk
raine.html


Word by Word and Between the Lines: A Close Look at Putin’s Speech

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Wednesday, November 29, 2023 12:48 AM


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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
What an evil selfish prick Putin is. Does anyone but him benefit from this? And now? After 2 years of covid crap? Kill thousands and crash the world economy so he can redraw a MAP?!?? What fcking dinosaur. I look forward to watching this blow up in his face.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/23/world/europe/putin-speech-russia-uk
raine.html


THUGR: Are you still breathing?



Sorry dood.
But even if "G" comes back, no matter how persuasively he spins the topic and shores up your hope, he was WRONG.
"This" is not going to blow up in Putin's face.
What it IS doing is blowing up in the EU's face, massively. Not only were the Ukrainians brain dead to fight our war for us, the EU was collectively brain dead to go along with it.

What you should be asking yourself is: "How did I get it so wrong?"

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Wednesday, November 29, 2023 5:56 AM

Don’t Forget the People Russia Weaponizes in Finland Border Crisis

Nov 28, 2023
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/11/28/dont-forget-the-people-russi
a-weaponizes-in-finland-border-crisis-a83243


After a weeks-long trickle, the number of people trying to enter Finland and Estonia illegally suddenly spiked this month, prompting Finland to close its eastern border entirely. Blame has been placed squarely on one country’s shoulders: Russia.

Last week, Estonian Defense Minister Hanno Pevkur described a “fully state-orchestrated” operation by Moscow, which he said was weaponizing immigration. Latvia’s Defense Minister, Andris Spruds, took it a step further, accusing President Vladimir Putin of acting as the “puppet master” behind it all.

The reasons why Moscow is doing this are clear. Amid soaring tensions with the West over Ukraine, it is delivering on its threat of retaliation against Finland for joining NATO, while Estonia is in the firing line for its staunch support of Kyiv. This looming instability on the EU’s eastern frontier will likely be felt in capitals across the continent, as well as in the European Parliament.

Russia’s strategy is to both overwhelm and destabilize its “unfriendly” neighbors. Pushing refugees and other vulnerable people to their borders heaps pressure on Finland and Estonia’s border forces, immigration systems and social services, straining their resources. Importantly, it could inflame social tensions. In Finland, where surging nativist sentiment has turned far-right politicians into power players in government, an influx of undocumented people from the Middle East and Africa could deepen polarization and political division — something Moscow would be eager to exploit.

This is not the first time Russia has resorted to such a harmful and unethical tactic. In 2016, Finnish officials accused Russian authorities of transporting 1,000 people to a border crossing in the Arctic, even providing hotel accommodation along the way. The event was widely considered Russia’s first, and most successful, hybrid attack of this kind on an EU member state to date — though Finnish politicians balked at calling it that at the time. Of course, despite its denials, Moscow is entirely to blame for this crisis. As it is impossible to enter Russia’s border zone without permission from the authorities, it is clearly no accident that hundreds of people have arrived at Finland’s doorstep on brand-new bicycles.

Such tactics speak volumes about how Russia’s leadership views people who already face discrimination and racist violence inside the country. Indeed, it shows their callous disregard for human life and well-being in general and readiness to treat people as pawns in a geopolitical game, though the bloodshed in Ukraine already made this clear.

Many people are duped into coming by smugglers promising quick and easy entry into the EU. Others are blinded by desperation, or simply unaware of what they are getting themselves into.

In what has been called “Europe’s forgotten migration crisis,” Belarus has been pushing people into Poland and Lithuania since 2020. Lithuanian authorities claim that Minsk sends people during the harsh winter months barefoot or without jackets to ramp up the pressure. Several have lost limbs to frostbite or died trying to cross into the EU.

And these are just the cases we know about. NGOs in Lithuania warn the cold, swampy border area is littered with the bodies of missing migrants. Their loved ones back home may never know what happened to them. There is now a risk these tragedies will be repeated.

More at https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/11/28/dont-forget-the-people-russi
a-weaponizes-in-finland-border-crisis-a83243


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, November 29, 2023 7:33 AM

More bullshit from SECOND.

You too, SECOND. YOU should be asking yourself "How did I get it so WRONG???"



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Wednesday, November 29, 2023 4:54 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
More bullshit from SECOND.

You too, SECOND. YOU should be asking yourself "How did I get it so WRONG???"


More bullshit from Putin:

Russian President Vladimir Putin reiterated a two-part conception of Russian identity in a speech on November 28: a “Russian nation” – claimed to include Russians, Ukrainians, and Belarusians – at the center of Russian identity; and a wider “Russian world” including other non-East Slavic ethnicities in both modern Russia and the former territory of the Soviet Union and Russian Empire.

Putin made a lengthy speech on Russian identity at the World Russian People’s Council on November 28. Putin reiterated his previous false claims that the “Russian nation” and people are composed of ethnic Russians, Belarusians, and Ukrainians who were artificially and violently divided via policy miscalculations during and after the fall of the Soviet Union, arguing Russia (the state) should unify this “Russian nation.”[1] Three versions of the same speech
1) Full strength Russian http://kremlin.ru/events/president/news/72863
2) Official translation http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/72863
3) Google's translation https://kremlin-ru.translate.goog/events/president/news/72863?_x_tr_sc
h=http&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp&_x_tr_hist=true


Putin defined the concept of the Russkiy Mir as a union of people who feel a spiritual connection to the “Motherland,” consider themselves to be native Russian speakers, and are carriers of Russian history and culture regardless of their national or religious affiliation. Putin, however, pointed out that there cannot be Russia (as a state) or the Russkiy Mir without ethnic Russians and implied that current Russian citizens and “all other peoples who have lived and are living in [Russia]” make up Russia.

Putin geographically defined the Russkiy Mir as the Ancient Rus’ (Kyivan Rus), the Kingdom of Muscovy, the Russian Empire, the Soviet Union, and the contemporary Russian Federation, indicating that the Kremlin’s concept likely also includes “Russian compatriots” in Eastern Europe, the Caucasus, and Central Asia. Putin also expanded his definition of “Western Russophobia” to include claimed aggression against other ethnicities such as Tatars, Chechens, Yakuts, and Buryats, in addition to ethnic Russians. Putin also called on Russian federal subjects to strengthen and protect Russia’s cultural and religious diversity. Putin previously outlined similar definitions of “ethnically Russian people” in his “Historical Unity of Russians and Ukrainians” essay in July 2021.[2] http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/66181

Putin’s November 28 speech draws a clear distinction between Putin’s vision of the Russian nation as a “triune people” composed of Russians, Belarusians, and Ukrainians, while other regional identities in Russia make up Russia as a country and shared “Russian world.”

Putin’s articulation of a Russian nation (including Ukrainians and dominated by Moscow) reiterates longstanding Kremlin justifications for its invasion of Ukraine and aggression toward its neighbors, and Putin’s claim that “western Russophobia” affects all the ethnicities in the Russian state is likely intended to rally support among Russian citizens who are not ethnically Russian for Putin’s war.

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-november-28-2023


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, November 29, 2023 10:59 PM

Say, aren't you the one that constantly misrepresents (i.e. lies about) what others say?

Didn't your repost an article huffing and puffing about Russians "invading three American states" when it was clear THEY WERE JOKING?

Aren't you the one who keeps claiming that Putin "threatens" us with nukes when he's only repeating standard policy of DEFENSIVE use?

I'm sure if I read this speech this will be another one of your reposted lies.

Your credibility was lost a long time ago bc of your habit of reliably posting lies. You might want to post the truth once in a while and at least keep us guessing!


BTW, you are filled with hate, greed, arrogance, violence, cowardice, and lies.
I dunno, SECOND. What should we do with evil people, according to you?


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Thursday, November 30, 2023 8:21 AM

According to Dima (Military Summary Channel) the Ukrainian defenses are collapsing in Kherson (at Krynky), Zaparozhiy (Rabotyno), Donetsk (near Bakhmut and Avdiivka) and in the north (near Kupiansk).

Russia may uncork some big arrow offenses this winter where Ukrainian military is especially weak, and Ukraine may not even get a chance at the mass mobilization that they were planning.

Meanwhile, Zelenskiy and Zaluzhny are fighting each other for political survival, and somebody poisoned Budanov's wife.

And that's not counting Zaluzhny:schief of staff who was killed by a live grenade birthday giftand the generals who're getting sacked.


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Loving America is like loving an addicted spouse - SIGNYM


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Thursday, November 30, 2023 1:09 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Say, aren't you the one that constantly misrepresents (i.e. lies about) what others say?

Didn't your repost an article huffing and puffing about Russians "invading three American states" when it was clear THEY WERE JOKING?

Aren't you the one who keeps claiming that Putin "threatens" us with nukes when he's only repeating standard policy of DEFENSIVE use?

I'm sure if I read this speech this will be another one of your reposted lies.

Your credibility was lost a long time ago bc of your habit of reliably posting lies. You might want to post the truth once in a while and at least keep us guessing!


BTW, you are filled with hate, greed, arrogance, violence, cowardice, and lies.
I dunno, SECOND. What should we do with evil people, according to you?




Well, I read the speech and, as usual, SECOND posts a lotta crap.

It was
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the plenary session of the World Russian People’s Council.
which is why the focus was on Russian identity.
Notable parts of the speech

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... they [the western globalists] say that Russia is a “prison of nations” and that Russians are a “nation of slaves.” We have heard this many times throughout the centuries. Now we have also heard that Russia apparently needs to be “decolonised.” But what do they really want? They want to dismember and plunder Russia. If they cannot do it by force, they sow discord.


"They" (globalists) do that here too. They sow discord and try to break national identity, including America's national identity.


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A free nation that understands its responsibility before current and future generations is the only source of power, sovereign power, which is called upon to serve all people, rather than someone’s private, corporate, class, or even foreign interests.

...

Justice means primarily decent living conditions, modern facilities for culture, healthcare and sports in all regions of the country. This means a qualified and well-paid job and high public prestige for workers, engineers, teachers, doctors, artists, cultural figures, entrepreneurs, every responsible specialist and master. Justice means equal, broad opportunities for study, for a start in life and self-fulfilment for youth.



There's a lot about sovereignty - something we would do well to promote- and much about supporting families and encouraging families to have children. Next year is the Year of the Family in Russia.

I don't know what SECOND is blathering on about. The speech and his post don't seem to have anything to do with each other.



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Thursday, November 30, 2023 3:56 PM

The NATO–Ukraine Council (NUC) met at the foreign minister-level for the first time on November 29 and discussed steps to increase weapons and ammunition production. NATO reported that it is developing a roadmap for full Ukrainian interoperability with NATO and reaffirmed its support for Ukraine’s democratic and security sector reforms “on its path toward future membership in NATO.”[27] Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba stated that the NUC discussed increasing the production of weapons and ammunition and noted on the sidelines of the NUC that the European Union (EU) has provided Ukraine with 300,000 artillery shells of the promised 1 million.[28]

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-november-29-2023



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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