Russia Invades Ukraine. Again
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
The Zelenskiy regime banned opposition parties, banned the Russian Orthodox Church (and stole their assets), jailed a critic for "treason", is pilfering hundreds of thousands of dollars from military and monetary aid, and is dragooning men off the streets.
So, you take the word of a lying, corrupt, undemocratic regime (Zelenskiy) for anything?
No source aye comrade?
T
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Oh, PLENTY of primary sources, THUGR. Yanno, from Ukraine announcements and everything. But you won't bother to look at them so why should I bother to post them?
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Oh, PLENTY of primary sources, THUGR. Yanno, from Ukraine announcements and everything. But you won't bother to look at them so why should I bother to post them?
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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I have no idea what your point is.
If the Ukrainian parliament says they've banned opposition political parties, should I disbelieve that opposition political parties have banned?
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I have no idea what your point is.
If the Ukrainian parliament says they've banned opposition political parties, should I disbelieve that opposition political parties have banned?
SOCEND'S point, is probably that he did not source what he just said. Did he just pull what he posted out of thin air? Only he knows.
T
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Quote:Obviously you and the Russians create imaginary stories to "legally" prove Russians are NOT murderous thieves who starve/torture their victims before killing them. Unfortunately, Russians have murdered Russians by the tens of millions. See every story ever written by a Russian who survived about how Russia's Gulag Archipelago killed off their political opposition.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I have no idea what your point is.
If the Ukrainian parliament says they've banned opposition political parties, should I disbelieve that opposition political parties have banned?
Russia is still murdering people, moving its operations into Ukraine, where Russians are stealing land and killing the previous owners who complain about the unfairness of Russians. Russia is run by people who are fundamentally absurd. It is no surprise what a huge effort such people will go to convince themselves they aren't crazy, evil, or stupid and that their hard lives are not their fault. Blame the Ukrainians, instead, lamenting about the unreasonable Ukrainians not surrendering to Russians' tender mercy and goodness!
Personally, I think the Ukrainians could teach the Russians about what Russians truly are, but the Russians will forget the lessons as soon as possible, protecting themselves from such revelations about Russian character and motivation.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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You had to swallow that you were wrong about USA/UK hand in cratering a Ukrainian peace deal.
And that you were wrong about not believing what the Rada passed.
So now you drag out that moldy old trope about what Russians did a century ago? That's like blaming "Germans" for the Holocaust and "Japanese" for WWII internment camps.
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Originally posted by THG:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I have no idea what your point is.
If the Ukrainian parliament says they've banned opposition political parties, should I disbelieve that opposition political parties have banned?
SOCEND'S point, is probably that he did not source what he just said. Did he just pull what he posted out of thin air? Only he knows.
T
. Educate yourself, THUGR. You're the only one who can. Do a search on "Ukraine bans political parties" for example.
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Recent Russian opinion polls indicate that roughly half of Russians maintain support for the war in Ukraine and for Russia to engage in peace negotiations. The Levada Center – an independent Russian polling organization – reported on October 31 that 55 percent of respondents to a recent poll believe that Russia should begin peace negotiations while 38 percent favor continuing to conduct the war.[13] The Levada Center observed that while these numbers slightly increased between September and October by four percent, they have largely remained consistent since July 2023.[14] The Levada Center added that support for Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine remained high with 76 percent of respondents stating that they support Russian military operations in Ukraine. The Levada Center reported that 62 percent of surveyed Russians believe that the full-scale invasion is progressing well, while 21 percent of respondents believe that the war is going reasonably or very poorly for Russia.[15] The Levada Center reported on November 14 that two-thirds of respondents believe that Russia is headed in the right direction and of those who believe the opposite, 45 percent cited the war in Ukraine.[16] Opposition-leaning Russian research organization Russian Field reported similar numbers supporting negotiations on November 15, noting that 48 percent of respondents said that Russia should engage in peace negotiations and that 74 percent would support Russian President Vladimir Putin if he signed a peace agreement “tomorrow.”[17] Russian Field stated that 36 percent of respondents believe that the war is going well for Russia whereas 25 percent believe that the war is going poorly for Russia and that respondents who trust Telegram channels are twice as likely to believe that the war is going poorly for Russia as those who rely on Russian television.[18]
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-november-15-2023
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The report makes no sense as reported
Quote:So, to be clear... half of Russians want Russia to do both? Engage in war AND negotiate?
Originally posted by second:
Recent Russian opinion polls indicate that roughly half of Russians maintain support for the war in Ukraine and for Russia to engage in peace negotiations.
Quote:funded mostly by the USA..
The Levada Center – an independent Russian polling organization
Quote:Not to be nitpicky, but this conflicts with the first statement that a majority wants Russia to continue the war AND negotiate. So is this an either/ or? Or are there more than two choices? (Eg: fight and negotiate, fight don't negotiate, negotiate don't fight, don't know.) There's a missing 7%, so I expect there's at least a third choice and possibly a fourth.
– reported on October 31 that 55 percent of respondents to a recent poll believe that Russia should begin peace negotiations while 38 percent favor continuing to conduct the war.
If that's the case, and one choice is "fight and negotiate" (55%) while the other choice is "fight, don't negotiate" (38%) then the vast majority [93%] want Russia to continue fighting.
Quote:which numbers? They quote two sets
The Levada Center observed that while these numbers
Quote:Well, THAT is an unusual way to report the results! How can we tell how many people think the war is going "poorly"? WE CAN'T. Maybe 62% think it's going well, 20% think it's going "reasonably" and only 1% think it's going "poorly". Since whoever authored this report seems intent on hiding that "poorly" figure, my bet is that it doesnt tell the story that the author wants
slightly increased between September and October by four percent, they have largely remained consistent since July 2023.[14] The Levada Center added that support for Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine remained high with 76 percent of respondents stating that they support Russian military operations in Ukraine. The Levada Center reported that 62 percent of surveyed Russians believe that the full-scale invasion is progressing well, while 21 percent of respondents believe that the war is going reasonably or very poorly for Russia.[15]
Quote:Since most opinion polls give more than two choices (right direction, wrong direction, neutral, don't know) this report seems intent on hiding that "wrong direction" figure as well. Again, probably bc it doesn't tell the story that the author wants
The Levada Center reported on November 14 that two-thirds of respondents believe that Russia is headged in the right direction and of those who believe the opposite,
Quote:This report fails on thoroughness, transparency, and logic. Or maybe its a language problem. In any case, clear as mud. Very poorly written.
45 percent (of... 10%?) cited the war in Ukraine.[16] Opposition-leaning Russian research organization Russian Field reported similar numbers supporting negotiations on November 15, noting that 48 percent of respondents said that Russia should engage in peace negotiations and that 74 percent would support Russian President Vladimir Putin if he signed a peace agreement “tomorrow.”[17] Russian Field stated that 36 percent of respondents believe that the war is going well for Russia whereas 25 percent believe that the war is going poorly for Russia and that respondents who trust Telegram channels are twice as likely to believe that the war is going poorly for Russia as those who rely on Russian television.[18]
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-november-15-2023
Oy!!
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