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Russia Invades Ukraine. Again

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Sunday, November 5, 2023 2:02 AM

And now, for some real news:

ZALUZHNY: admits "counteroffensive" has failed. But if we give him a whole new army with innovative weapons like better electronic warfare, he could win

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Ukraine’s commander-in-chief, General Valery Zaluzhny, says the battlefield reminds him of the great conflict of a century ago. “Just like in the first world war we have reached the level of technology that puts us into a stalemate,” he says. The general concludes that it would take a massive technological leap to break the deadlock. “There will most likely be no deep and beautiful breakthrough.”
. . .
he urges innovation in drones, electronic warfare, anti-artillery capabilities and demining equipment, as well as in the use of robotics.


https://www.economist.com/europe/2023/11/01/ukraines-commander-in-chie
f-on-the-breakthrough-he-needs-to-beat-russia


ZELENSKY: HERO TO ZERO
Last year, Time magazine named Zelenskiy "Man of the Year". This year, he's described as delusional and messianic, a man who gives crazy orders that commanders are afraid to follow

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‘Nobody Believes in Our Victory Like I Do.’ Inside Volodymyr Zelensky’s Struggle to Keep Ukraine in the Fight
https://time.com/6329188/ukraine-volodymyr-zelensky-interview/




REGIME CHANGE IN UKRAINE (AGAIN)?

ARESTOVYCH: Meanwhile, altho opposition political parties and the Russian Orthodox Church has been banned, Zelenskiy's former advisor, co-star, and bff is allowed to criticize Ukraine's (Zelenskiy's) counteroffensive:
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Ukraine Will Lose Avdiivka, Zelensky's Former Aide Predicts
https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukraine-avdiivka-donetsk-1837675



Some say that Arestovych is protected by the west, who want to keep him around as a possible Zelenskiy replacement.

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Opinion: Zelensky’s inescapable new reality
https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/18/opinions/zelensky-israel-palestine-ukra
ine-russia-ghitis/index.html



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U.S., European officials broach topic of peace negotiations with Ukraine, sources say
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/us-european-officials-broach-topic-
peace-negotiations-ukraine-sources-rcna123628



Just keeping it real, folks.

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Sunday, November 5, 2023 4:16 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Just keeping it real, folks.

The Russians threatened on many occasions to nuke the USA if a Red Line Was Crossed. Russia has so many Red Lines but nothing happens when crossed. That is reality. Nothing happens. It is time for the USA to destroy the Crimean Bridge because Russia's Red Lines are not real.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, November 5, 2023 5:15 AM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Just keeping it real, folks.

The Russians threatened on many occasions to nuke the USA if a Red Line Was Crossed. Russia has so many Red Lines but nothing happens when crossed. That is reality. Nothing happens. It is time for the USA to destroy the Crimean Bridge because Russia's Red Lines are not real.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Well, since you constantly misquote (i.e. lie) about Kremlin policy, you will constantly be confused about what's happening.


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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

Loving America is like loving an addicted spouse - SIGNYM


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Sunday, November 5, 2023 5:37 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Well, since you constantly misquote (i.e. lie) about Kremlin policy, you will constantly be confused about what's happening.

There have been so many Russian Red Lines that have been crossed without consequences that a Wiki article was written to keep track:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_lines_in_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War

It is time for the USA to destroy the Crimean Bridge because Russia's Red Lines are not real.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, November 5, 2023 5:45 AM

Nah.

Fuck Ukraine.

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Political correctness is just tyranny, with a smiley face.

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Sunday, November 5, 2023 6:19 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Nah.

Fuck Ukraine.

Russia built a bridge on Ukrainian real estate in Crimea. The Ukrainians have tried to knock it down and failed because their military is as dumb as the Russians'. The USA could demolish that bridge on the first try. The USA should try in order to show Trumptards and Chinese that Russia's Red Lines are not real, that the USA experience is all too real for Trumptards, Chinese, and Russians to handle straight up, undiluted.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, November 5, 2023 6:21 AM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Well, since you constantly misquote (i.e. lie) about Kremlin policy, you will constantly be confused about what's happening.

There have been so many Russian Red Lines that have been crossed without consequences that a Wiki article was written to keep track:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_lines_in_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War

It is time for the USA to destroy the Crimean Bridge because Russia's Red Lines are not real.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

Oh, so you want to provoke a USA war with Russia?

You're as delusional as Zelenskiy.

Ukraine joining NATO was a red line, and -in your delusional state- you misjudged Russia badly. You CONTINUE to misjudge Russia bc you haven't learned. Now you want to try again, with the USA in the balance?

Yanno, there are ignorant people and stupid people. Stupid people are those incapable of learning. That's you, SECOND.



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Sunday, November 5, 2023 2:49 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Ukraine joining NATO was a red line, and -in your delusional state- you misjudged Russia badly. You CONTINUE to misjudge Russia bc you haven't learned. Now you want to try again, with the USA in the balance?

I guess you failed to notice that Ukraine did NOT join NATO, therefore joining NATO was NOT the cause of Russia invading Ukraine. But some other Russian Red Lines really were crossed, and Russia did NOT nuke the USA. If Russia wants to commit suicide by cop, rather than nuke itself, Russia can nuke the USA. Russia keeps bringing up Hiroshima and Nagasaki because it fears that the USA will kill Saint Petersburg and Moscow if Russia makes a stupid move. Russia should continue to fear it because nuking the USA is the most real Red Line in the World, totally unlike Russia's many, many fake Red Lines.

Ukraine asked the USA for ammo and explosives to destroy Russian property parked on Ukrainian land. Russia responded by threatening to nuke the USA. In the future, when Ukraine asks the USA to destroy the Crimean Bridge because the Russians built it on Ukrainian property without permission, Russia will threaten, as it always does, to nuke the USA. It is another Russian Red Line, but those Red Lines aren't real:

Red lines in the Russo-Ukrainian War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_lines_in_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War#Rus
sian_red_lines


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, November 5, 2023 2:53 PM

US officials have no indication that Russian President Vladimir Putin is willing to negotiate with Ukraine or doubts that Russia can continue its war until Western aid for Ukraine falters.[5] ISW has also not observed any indications that Russia is prepared to enter peace negotiations with Ukraine in good faith. Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov expressed the Kremlin’s disagreement with the characterization of the war in Ukraine as a “stalemate” on November 2, stating that the war in Ukraine “has not reached a dead end” and that the Russian military continues to conduct offensive operations.[6] Russia’s offensive operations around Avdiivka indicate that the Kremlin continues to believe that it is possible to achieve its objectives with military force and is unlikely to enter peace negotiations with Ukraine, except to buy time to reconstitute for future offensive operations. Pressure on Ukraine to negotiate an end to the war will likely remain meaningless if not harmful as long as Putin believes that he can achieve his objectives on the battlefield.

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-november-4-2023


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, November 5, 2023 3:42 PM

The west must not prevaricate when it comes to seizing Russian reserves

Confiscating and deploying them for Ukraine’s benefit is the morally obvious next step

By Martin Sandbu | Nov 5, 2023

https://www.ft.com/content/42f1669f-15a4-4d02-869b-1561115c12d9

Within days of Vladimir Putin’s full-scale assault on Ukraine, western capitals acted with remarkable determination in blocking Russia’s access to more than $300bn of foreign exchange reserves. In the 20 months since, however, the western sanctions coalition has got itself into ever more contortions trying to avoid the morally obvious next steps: seizing the reserves and deploying them for Ukraine’s benefit.

The ostensible justification is legal obstacles. But if those were really the reason for such timidity, western governments would have been doing all they could to overcome them: pursuing compensation claims under existing law, pushing legislative changes (as Canada, uniquely, has done), and endorsing prominent lawyers’ arguments that Moscow has no legal recourse against asset seizures after its violations of international law.

That this is not happening reveals the legal qualms as vicarious arguments for more self-interested objections to seizure. The most important is the fear that confiscating Russia’s assets will make other non-western countries pull their own reserves out of the west, in case one day the same treatment could be meted out to them.

The concern is that this could destabilise the global financial system and in particular diminish the dollar’s and the euro’s captive investors among central bank reserve managers. The European Central Bank has issued a strong warning to European policymakers against even taxing EU companies making windfall profits on blocked Russian assets — which seems the most that the sanctions coalition is currently willing to contemplate.

The argument looks superficially sound. But it unravels upon a closer look at the facts. If non-western governments were to react to seizure by pulling out their reserves, that horse would have already bolted on at least two occasions: the blocking order itself, and the G7 announcement that accounts will not be unblocked until Russia compensates Ukraine for its destruction.

Yet IMF data shows no subsequent shift of reserves out of the western fold. Where would they go? The largest reserves belong to Beijing, and reflect accumulated Chinese trade surpluses with western commercial partners. Claims on the west will remain denominated in western currencies and governed by its laws. If Beijing wanted to sell out of western assets altogether, it would struggle to find alternatives. The rest of the world is too small to house the scale of claims China wants to rack up.

Other large reserve holders do at least have an alternative to the west, namely to place their official savings in China. That would come at an economic cost: a non-convertible currency is no choice for prudent reserve management. Nor would it make much sense politically. However hypocritical or self-serving emerging countries may find the west, surely no one believes Xi Jinping is less tempted to weaponise financial dependence.

The only realistic prospect is that non-western economies decide not to accumulate such large reserves in the first place, and marginally diversify those they retain. There is some sign of the former. In 2022, global reserves fell by 8 percent in dollar terms before recovering somewhat. Excessive surpluses being a source of international instability, this is not something to fear. And slow diversification is bound to happen anyway as the global economy changes.

The supposed cost of seizing Russia’s reserves, then, is limited. It must in any case be held against the economic gains. They include giving Ukraine the financial means to win, recover and become fit to join the EU. It would also set a salutary precedent, suggesting that a country that flagrantly attacks the international order cannot expect to enjoy its protections.

Other economic arguments are harboured in private. O

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