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Is george lucas a firefly fan?

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Saturday, February 12, 2005 5:30 AM

Reading about the new star wars movie, it seems like the empire thats about to be formed is alot like the alliance in firefly.

What do you think???.





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Saturday, February 12, 2005 7:10 AM

. . .

"Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government."

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Saturday, February 12, 2005 8:04 AM

I doubt Lucas has a creative bone left in his body. Seeing the government as all controlling and menacing is not a new thought by any stretch of the imagination. I hope RotS dies a spectacular death.

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Saturday, February 12, 2005 8:12 AM

The Empire in Star Wars has remained pretty consistant since 1977. If anything, the Alliance is patterned after the Empire. In fact, JW himself has said that Firefly is sort of like what would have happened if the Rebel Alliance had lost the war with the Empire, that Serenity is sort of like the Falcon, and that Mal is something like Han Solo. The impression that I get is that JW has a healthy respect for SW OT.

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Saturday, February 12, 2005 8:59 AM

Indeed.

It's my understanding that any time you ever heard a character on Buffy, or Angel, or anywhere make a reference to Star Wars (Cordelia: You're our only hope, Obi-Wan), is because Joss dropped it in there. He's a huge fan, and so are all of us nerds. You can't be a nerd and hate the Original Trilogy. It's just not natural.

I do see a lot of Han/Mal similarities, though I doubt Han was ever in the military. Han also went all soft when he had something to believe in-- his friendship with Luke, his love of Leia. Mal doesn't have those things... but he does have Zoe, and any comparisons of Zoe to Chewbacca are hereby banned forever.

Beware....

(qs)

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Saturday, February 12, 2005 9:06 AM

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Originally posted by Quicksand:

I do see a lot of Han/Mal similarities, though I doubt Han was ever in the military. Han also went all soft when he had something to believe in-- his friendship with Luke, his love of Leia. Mal doesn't have those things... but he does have Zoe, and any comparisons of Zoe to Chewbacca are hereby banned forever.

Beware....

(qs)



Zoe to Chewbacca? How about Jayne and Chewbacca?

Actually, according to the books, Han was in the Imperial Academy, and dropped out when he saved Chewbacca.

So while we're doing comparisons - does River use the Force? Is Book really Yoda, only not green? Is Inara like Princess Leia, but with less royalty and more sex?

And here's the big one - Is there (hopefully) a moon in the Firefly universe where they juggle Ewoks (and drop them)?

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Saturday, February 12, 2005 9:08 AM

I remain stalwart in my defense of the prequels. I find the story to be entertaining, as I identify with Anakin. More so than I do with Han, who was my original favorite from the OT. I'm just not smooth enough to be Han. Angsty and whiny? Powerful and misunderstood? Easily lead by passions? Yeah, those I can do. The prequels have enough, in my opinion, good points to weigh out the bad, ie. Jar-Jar. Like the pod race. And the duel with Darth Maul, Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon. Episode II had the speeder chase through Coruscant, the arena battle, Jango v. Obi-Wan in the rain, Jango v. Obi-Wan in space, the gi-normous battle between the clone troopers and the droids, Obi and Ani v. Dooku v. Yoda. I'm looking forward to episode III.

And so I stay on topic, I think you've got it backwards. The Galactic Empire would be more of an inspiration for the Alliance. Would have to be, been around longer.

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Saturday, February 12, 2005 6:48 PM

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It's my understanding that any time you ever heard a character on Buffy, or Angel, or anywhere make a reference to Star Wars (Cordelia: You're our only hope, Obi-Wan), is because Joss dropped it in there. He's a huge fan, and so are all of us nerds. You can't be a nerd and hate the Original Trilogy. It's just not natural.



And let's not forget a large chunk of season with all of Jonathan's and Andrew's action figures in their basement lair, the Death Star painted van with the horn that played the Star Wars theme. Such geeks. It was great!

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any comparisons of Zoe to Chewbacca are hereby banned forever.



Actually, I always though Jayne was more Chewbacca than anyone. :)



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Saturday, February 12, 2005 6:53 PM


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I remain stalwart in my defense of the prequels......The prequels have enough, in my opinion, good points to weigh out the bad, ie. Jar-Jar.



I find the story of the prequels interesting, but I can't defend the execution. I'm sorry, I've tried, but the writing, for the most part, isn't very good, and I'm a freak for decent writing.
I'll still see Revegene of the Sith, of course, but I'm not holding out a lot of hope that the writing has improved. And I totally want to see Wookies kicking some ass. :)

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Saturday, February 12, 2005 7:17 PM

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... The impression that I get is that JW has a healthy respect for SW OT.


Did you notice the miniature Han-frozen-in-Carbonite, sitting on a shelf next to Kaylee's hammock in the engine room on Serenity? You can see this in "The Message", when Kaylee listens to, well, the message.


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