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Monday, October 23, 2023 7:59 PM

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Originally posted by second:
Why it's impossible for right-wing governments to handle a crisis

By Thom Hartmann | Oct 18, 2023

https://www.rawstory.com/raw-investigates/right-wing-government/



Pure trash.

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Monday, October 23, 2023 8:13 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
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Originally posted by second:
Why it's impossible for right-wing governments to handle a crisis

By Thom Hartmann | Oct 18, 2023

https://www.rawstory.com/raw-investigates/right-wing-government/



Pure trash.

From that same story:
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Unfortunately, nobody moderated the corruption and incompetence of the Bush administration. President George W. Bush and his Vice President, Dick Cheney, were repeatedly warned that Bin Laden was “determined to strike inside the US.”

Bush, however, was busy trying to get Congress to pass a trillion-dollar tax cut for billionaires and Cheney was in secret meetings drawing up maps of the Iraqi oil fields that he and George would pass out to crony companies if they could find an excuse for a war.

Bush got his final and most alarmed warning from the CIA on August 6, 2001, a full month before the attack. Instead of putting the FBI and airport security on full alert, Bush decided to leave DC and take the longest vacation in presidential history, keeping him out of town until after the attack.

This was all just one month after Bush had attended a G8 summit in Genoa, Italy, where the Italian government had mobilized a battery of anti-aircraft missiles to protect the venue because of credible threats that Osama Bin Laden was planning to have his men hijack passenger jets to crash into Bush’s hotel, a threat that was well known to Bush and Condoleezza Rice.



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, October 23, 2023 9:12 PM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
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Originally posted by second:
Why it's impossible for right-wing governments to handle a crisis

By Thom Hartmann | Oct 18, 2023

https://www.rawstory.com/raw-investigates/right-wing-government/



Pure trash.

From that same story:
Quote:

Unfortunately, nobody moderated the corruption and incompetence of the Bush administration. President George W. Bush and his Vice President, Dick Cheney, were repeatedly warned that Bin Laden was “determined to strike inside the US.”

Bush, however, was busy trying to get Congress to pass a trillion-dollar tax cut for billionaires and Cheney was in secret meetings drawing up maps of the Iraqi oil fields that he and George would pass out to crony companies if they could find an excuse for a war.

Bush got his final and most alarmed warning from the CIA on August 6, 2001, a full month before the attack. Instead of putting the FBI and airport security on full alert, Bush decided to leave DC and take the longest vacation in presidential history, keeping him out of town until after the attack.

This was all just one month after Bush had attended a G8 summit in Genoa, Italy, where the Italian government had mobilized a battery of anti-aircraft missiles to protect the venue because of credible threats that Osama Bin Laden was planning to have his men hijack passenger jets to crash into Bush’s hotel, a threat that was well known to Bush and Condoleezza Rice.



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly




Yeah. Fuck Republicans. Especially warmongering Bushite Republicans.

The article isn't trash because it trashes Republicans. It's trash because it pretends that Democrats are any fucking better.

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Thursday, October 26, 2023 4:19 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Yeah. Fuck Republicans. Especially warmongering Bushite Republicans.

The article isn't trash because it trashes Republicans. It's trash because it pretends that Democrats are any fucking better.

Pretends? 6ix, you and Trumptards in general truthfully lack understanding of what is going on all around you. Here is something else for your kind to misunderstand:

A new paper by economic historians Richard Hornbeck and Trevon Logan with the thesis that the costs of the slave system greatly exceeded the benefits is more important than you might think.
https://www.nber.org/papers/w31758
https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w31758/w31758.pdf

The slaveowners among America’s “founding fathers” generally understood the institution to be bad.

George Washington embraced perhaps the most chillingly real version of this in that he freed his slaves upon his death — he knew it was the right thing to do, he just liked profiting from slavery too much to do it until it wouldn’t cost him anything. But there were real ideological and policy elements to this, too.

Slavery in the territories became controversial later in American history, but the Northwest Ordinance of 1787 that prohibited it in the area that became Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Michigan, and Wisconsin wasn’t particularly controversial at the time. Thomas Jefferson was a major force behind the legislation, and he wasn’t pushing to expand slavery into the northwest. He was extremely racist and not at all prepared to live side by side with a population of free Black people, but the Founding generation was generally not enthusiastic about trying to spread the slave-plantation socioeconomic model.

Later, though, as slavery came under more severe criticism from abolitionist and Free Soil types, the ideological currents in the South shifted.

During the 1820s, southerners started instead articulating the “positive good” theory of slavery. Or, as governor Stephen Miller of South Carolina put it in 1829, slavery was really awesome. Not just convenient for the slaveowners or an alternative to racial equality, but “a national benefit” that drove the prosperity of the whole country:

“Slavery is not a national evil; on the contrary, it is a national benefit. The agricultural wealth of the country is found in those states owning slaves, and a great portion of the revenue of the government is derived from the products of slave labor—Slavery exists in some form everywhere, and it is not of much consequence in a philosophical point of view, whether it be voluntary or involuntary. In a political point of view, involuntary slavery had the advantage, since all who enjoy political liberty are then, in fact, free.”

This was an important shift in American political discourse in the first half of the 19th Century. Free Soilers and the early Republican Party had developed the concept of the “Slave Power,” a mechanism by which a group of plantation owners who were a numerical minority even in the South, managed to drive national policy to serve their interests. The Positive Good theory was designed to debunk this. Over time, it failed to convince the majority of northerners, but it did convince the majority of southerners, leading to political fracturing and the American Civil War.

You would think that 160 years later this would be a definitively settled issue. But in a weird way the old Positive Good idea keeps ricocheting around as people look for cute history theses to advance, and most oddly of all as leftists try to indict capitalism by agreeing with Positive Good theorists’ exaggeration of slavery’s benefits.

So a new paper by economic historians Richard Hornbeck and Trevon Logan with the thesis that the costs of the slave system greatly exceeded the benefits is more important than you might think.

The bleak economics of slavery

I think the most straightforward way to think, economically, of enslavement is that it functions like theft. If I take something of your

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Wednesday, November 1, 2023 3:59 AM

Tommy Tuberville, the moron senator from Alabama, has been holding up hundreds of military promotions for months. This weekend the commandant of the Marine Corps collapsed after suffering a heart attack, which leaves the Corps leaderless since Tuberville has blocked the confirmation of Lt. Gen. Christopher Mahoney as assistant commandant. So now we have this:

On Tuesday, Tuberville began circulating a petition, which would need signatures from at least 16 senators, to force the chamber to consider the nomination of Mahoney....That maneuver is the same one that lawmakers used in September to vote to install Gen. Charles Brown Jr as the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

wtaf? Tuberville is now trying to force a confirmation vote for a man whose confirmation he's blocking?

This whole affair is crackers. It's preposterous that a single senator can hold up nominations on a whim, and in any sane world the Senate would ditch this rule. But they won't. Why? Because every single one of them wants to retain this power in case they themselves want to use it someday. Idiots.

https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/tuberville-pushes-to-confirm-marin
es-no-2-after-commandant-hospitalized-feaade86?st=ubfmtb8wczkr3mr&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, November 1, 2023 6:21 AM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Yeah. Fuck Republicans. Especially warmongering Bushite Republicans.

The article isn't trash because it trashes Republicans. It's trash because it pretends that Democrats are any fucking better.

Pretends? 6ix, you and Trumptards in general truthfully lack understanding of what is going on all around you. Here is something else for your kind to misunderstand:



I'm done reading any of your propaganda or bothering to even have a real discussion with you. You're borderline retarded with a God complex.

Get some help.

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Tuesday, November 7, 2023 3:35 AM

The GOP playbook, since Reagan:

1. Run up the debt with tax cuts.

2. Blame socialism for the debt.

3. Wait for a Democratic president.

4. Blame them for the debt.

5. Block their attempts to fix it.

6. Call them failures.

7. Use it to win next election.

8. Repeat.

https://www.investmentnews.com/tax-cuts-vs-debt-reduction-gop-presiden
tial-debate-illustrates-conundrum-241496

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

I'm done reading any of your propaganda or bothering to even have a real discussion with you. You're borderline retarded with a God complex.

Get some help.

6ix, you are the guy who misunderstands everything, knows nothing, and never will, but you cannot stop running your mouth, just like Trump, and pretty much every Trumptard I have ever known. Here is 6ix on his money difficulties:

“Yeah, I'm going to end up paying about $650 more over the next two years than I would have before the housing market went out of control in BidenFlationLand, and that increase will persist every year from here on out, but if I didn't fight this it would have cost me close to $2000 above that over the next 2 years, and about $1,350 per year every year after that instead of only about $360 per year.

And when you're managing to track on living with only spending $7k for an entire year in 2023, saving around $1k per year on taxes is cutting your future cost of living by over 14%.”
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=65350&mid=11833
48#1183348


“the fact that the cold unheated basement is wide open it is quite expensive to heat this place. That's why I had the thermostat at only 52 degrees all winter last year with the insane gas prices. The only time I ever turned it higher than that was when it got so cold I was worried the pipes in the crawl might freeze.”
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=65350&mid=11833
84#1183384


“It was just miserable here though because of the high cost of natural gas and how cold I kept my house. I'm not hearing any horror stories about natural gas prices this year, so hopefully they've stabilized and gone down. But maybe they're just not reporting on it anymore because we're all conditioned for the high prices and/or they don't want to make Biden* look any worse than he already does.”
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=65350&mid=11834
35#1183435


Tell me more about your political beliefs, 6ix. I want to know why your life is so impoverished. I have found that boneheaded political beliefs and personal financial problems go together in most people. The principle is that stupidity in one thing will manifest itself in everything you do, especially money. Trump, supposedly rich, has abundant money problems because he is the poster child for boneheadedness, a mental disorder even high-income people can have.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, November 7, 2023 8:10 AM

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Originally posted by second:
6ix, you are the guy who misunderstands everything, knows nothing, and never will, but you cannot stop running your mouth, just like Trump, and pretty much every Trumptard I have ever known.



Hehe. Have fun at work today honey?


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Here is 6ix on his money difficulties:

“Yeah, I'm going to end up paying about $650 more over the next two years than I would have before the housing market went out of control in BidenFlationLand, and that increase will persist every year from here on out, but if I didn't fight this it would have cost me close to $2000 above that over the next 2 years, and about $1,350 per year every year after that instead of only about $360 per year.

And when you're managing to track on living with only spending $7k for an entire year in 2023, saving around $1k per year on taxes is cutting your future cost of living by over 14%.”
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=65350&mid=11833
48#1183348




Yeah. I just saved $1,350 per year going forward on my property tax and severely lowered the base from which they will make future increases. All without a lawyer or any legal advice. For the second time since I've lived here.

My property taxes when I first bought the house were going to be $2400 per year. I lowered them to $900 the first time, and even after the super inflation of Joe Biden and the out of control housing prices I'm still only paying $1,550 next year.

I've lived here 12 years now. On property taxes alone I've saved over $20,000 because I'm smart and stubborn enough to fight them instead of just rolling over like a pussy and getting fucked in the ass by Uncle Sam like you apparently do.

It costs me less than $20 per day to live, even with that tax increase.

I don't have any money issues.

Quote:

“the fact that the cold unheated basement is wide open it is quite expensive to heat this place. That's why I had the thermostat at only 52 degrees all winter last year with the insane gas prices. The only time I ever turned it higher than that was when it got so cold I was worried the pipes in the crawl might freeze.”
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=65350&mid=11833
84#1183384



Again. I chose to do that. It costs me less than $20 per day to live.



Quote:

“It was just miserable here though because of the high cost of natural gas and how cold I kept my house. I'm not hearing any horror stories about natural gas prices this year, so hopefully they've stabilized and gone down. But maybe they're just not reporting on it anymore because we're all conditioned for the high prices and/or they don't want to make Biden* look any worse than he already does.”
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=65350&mid=11834
35#1183435



Yeah. Bidenflation raised natural gas prices 125% over the course of two years. I chose not to pay it.

It costs me less than $20 per day to live. I don't have any money issues.



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Tell me more about your political beliefs, 6ix. I want to know why your life is so impoverished. I have found that boneheaded political beliefs and personal financial problems go together in most people. The principle is that stupidity in one thing will manifest itself in everything you do, especially money. Trump, supposedly rich, has abundant money problems because he is the poster child for boneheadedness, a mental disorder even high-income people can have.


I'm not impoverished. I chose to live this way because I'm a real man and not a little pussy born with a silver spoon up his ass.

Meanwhile, I haven't worked a day since July of 2019 and I'm still getting work done on my house when I feel like it, at my own pace.

Have fun at work tomorrow bitch.

I'll be napping.



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Saturday, November 11, 2023 1:13 AM

The UAW won pay hikes for everyone in the auto industry
Honda boosts pay for workers

Hey, look what's happening in the auto industry:

Honda Motor is giving many U.S. factory workers an 11% pay bump and making other improvements for these employees, a move that follows major gains secured by the United Auto Workers union in Detroit last month.

The base wage increase is effective in January, according to a memo viewed by The Wall Street Journal. The Japanese automaker is also cutting the time it takes to reach the top wage in half to three from six years, a change that is similar to one won by the UAW in its negotiations with General Motors, Ford Motor and Chrysler-parent Stellantis.

Unions have long been important not just because of the gains they win for their members, but because even non-union shops are forced to keep pace. Toyota raised its pay scales a week ago, and even Tesla is going to have to raise pay if they want to stay competitive for assembly line workers.

Now all we have to do is revive unions throughout the country.

https://www.wsj.com/business/autos/honda-gives-u-s-factory-workers-11-
pay-bump-following-uaw-wins-in-detroit-eb484398?st=rhj3u0buc192jnt&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, November 23, 2023 3:03 AM

Inside the $1.5-Trillion Nuclear Weapons Program You've Never Heard Of

By Abe Streep | December 1, 2023
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/inside-the-1-5-trillion-nuc
lear-weapons-program-youve-never-heard-of
/

This article is part of “The New Nuclear Age,” a special report on a $1.5-trillion effort to remake the American nuclear arsenal.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/report/the-new-nuclear-age/

Whether the U.S. is turning the screw a little tighter to assure allies in the wake of Russia's newly aggressive stance and rising Chinese power or merely furthering a profitable, decades-old militarized political agenda depends on whom you ask. Either way, the upshot is clear. “I expect the coming decades are going to be a boom time for the nuclear weapons industry,” says Jeffrey Lewis, a nonproliferation expert and professor at the Middlebury Institute of International Studies at Monterey, Calif.

Robert Webster, deputy director of weapons at Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico, told me that Americans have lost their fluency in nuclear weapons — that is, because of decades of relative stability, we've forgotten how to think about them. “You need everybody in the world to be on the same level of understanding so you can maintain this deterrence,” he says. But global powers treat nuclear weapons as bargaining chips, and history shows that one country's escalation follows its rivals'. The worst-case scenario is apocalyptic.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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