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Russia Invades Ukraine. Again

POSTED BY: captaincrunch
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Saturday, October 21, 2023 11:18 PM

We're still going to pretend that nobody who votes Democrat smokes, drinks, eats themselves obese, partakes in illegal drugs or commits suicide, huh?

Delusional.

Also, heard that bullshit lie out of you a thousand times already. *yawn*

Get fucked, idiot.



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Sunday, October 22, 2023 12:03 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
We're still going to pretend that nobody who votes Democrat smokes, drinks, eats themselves obese, partakes in illegal drugs or commits suicide, huh?

Delusional.

Also, heard that bullshit lie out of you a thousand times already. *yawn*

Get fucked, idiot.

This will be kind of subtle for you, but I know black people who would never vote for Trump because they are strongly aware of how much the Republican party detests them. The subtle part is that they live like a Trumptard and have the same low life expectancy.

To a decent American, liberty is the freedom to do what you ought, not what you want. But to a typical American, Trumptard or black who will have a shortened life span, Liberty is for doing what they want, not what they ought. They confuse the idea of Liberty as the freedom to be licentious. They want to smoke, drink, overeat, lie to their wife, cheat on their taxes, break rules when they can't be detected, etc. and they go at full speed doing what they want, not what they ought. That is their idea of Liberty and they will pay for their confusion about the difference between want and ought with their life.

Russians want Ukraine but they ought, according to international law, to leave Ukraine to be itself. Doing what they want will shorten Russians' lives.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, October 22, 2023 3:06 AM

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Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
We're still going to pretend that nobody who votes Democrat smokes, drinks, eats themselves obese, partakes in illegal drugs or commits suicide, huh?

Delusional.

Also, heard that bullshit lie out of you a thousand times already. *yawn*

Get fucked, idiot.

This will be kind of subtle for you, but I know black people



Liar. You don't know any black people.

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THG
Sunday, October 22, 2023 3:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Amazing how quickly this can be memory-hoked.
But, yep- Russia is still winning.
I'll let you know when Ukraine collapses.


THUGR:
Quote:

Israeli Official Issues Warning to Putin on Russian State TV
An Israeli politician issued a warning to Russian President Vladimir Putin amid the ongoing wars in Israel and Ukraine.
Amir Weitmann, the head of the libertarian caucus


A military expert, I'm sure.
Quote:

Quote:

in Israel's Likud Party, appeared on Russia's state-run RT News network this week and spoke about fighting between Israel and Hamas militants, as well as Russia's war with Ukraine.

While speaking about recent claims relating to al-Ahli Hospital in Gaza City, Weitmann criticized Russia, saying that "we're gonna finish this war, we're going to win because we're stronger. After this, Russia will pay the price, believe me, Russia will pay the price."

"Russia is supporting the enemies of Israel. Russia is supporting Nazi people who want to commit genocide on us and Russia will pay the price," Weitmann said. "We're gonna win this war. Afterwards, we're not forgetting what you're doing, we're not forgetting, we will come, we will make sure Ukraine wins. We will make sure that you pay the price for what you have done, you as Russia."



Yep...


Son, do you really think that Israel can beat Russia?




Where's the Su-57? The war in Ukraine is what fifth-generation fighter jets were made for, but Russia's Felon has largely been missing in action

Russian state media has touted the Su-57 fighter jet as a formidable, fifth-generation aircraft.
It's the type of jet that would theoretically thrive in the Ukraine war, but it's been mostly absent.
Aviation experts and Western intel say Russia may not want to risk any reputational damage.
Russia's air force has yet to break through Ukraine's formidable air defenses and achieve air superiority, which is somewhat surprising given that the Russians supposedly have something the Ukrainians do not — a fifth-generation fighter jet.

The high-threat environment in Ukraine, where pilots in older aircraft are having to fly low to the ground to skirt enemy radars for fear of being shot out of the sky by a surface-to-air missile, is exactly what fifth-generation stealth fighters were made for.

So where has Russia's much-touted Su-57 been all this time?

The Su-57 — known by NATO as 'Felon' — has largely been missing in action beyond possibly firing missiles from Russian territory last year. Western intelligence and aviation experts say Russia's reluctance to employ the aircraft in combat suggests Moscow may not be confident in the jet's purported stealth capabilities and technology and likely wants to avoid any potential reputational damage that could come from losing one of these aircraft to Kyiv's surface-to-air missile systems.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/where-s-the-su-57-the-war-in-ukra
ine-is-what-fifth-generation-fighter-jets-were-made-for-but-russia-s-felon-has-largely-been-missing-in-action/ar-AA1iBKRU?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=EDGEXST&cvid=907b3384e5b24454b95c53bb4e842c02&ei=26




Too funny comrade, too funny.

T

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Sunday, October 22, 2023 6:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Amazing how quickly this can be memory-hoked.
But, yep- Russia is still winning.
I'll let you know when Ukraine collapses.


THUGR:
Quote:

Israeli Official Issues Warning to Putin on Russian State TV
An Israeli politician issued a warning to Russian President Vladimir Putin amid the ongoing wars in Israel and Ukraine.
Amir Weitmann, the head of the libertarian caucus


A military expert, I'm sure.
Quote:

Quote:

in Israel's Likud Party, appeared on Russia's state-run RT News network this week and spoke about fighting between Israel and Hamas militants, as well as Russia's war with Ukraine.

While speaking about recent claims relating to al-Ahli Hospital in Gaza City, Weitmann criticized Russia, saying that "we're gonna finish this war, we're going to win because we're stronger. After this, Russia will pay the price, believe me, Russia will pay the price."

"Russia is supporting the enemies of Israel. Russia is supporting Nazi people who want to commit genocide on us and Russia will pay the price," Weitmann said. "We're gonna win this war. Afterwards, we're not forgetting what you're doing, we're not forgetting, we will come, we will make sure Ukraine wins. We will make sure that you pay the price for what you have done, you as Russia."



Yep...


Son, do you really think that Israel can beat Russia?




Where's the Su-57? The war in Ukraine is what fifth-generation fighter jets were made for, but Russia's Felon has largely been missing in action

Russian state media has touted the Su-57 fighter jet as a formidable, fifth-generation aircraft.
It's the type of jet that would theoretically thrive in the Ukraine war, but it's been mostly absent.
Aviation experts and Western intel say Russia may not want to risk any reputational damage.
Russia's air force has yet to break through Ukraine's formidable air defenses and achieve air superiority, which is somewhat surprising given that the Russians supposedly have something the Ukrainians do not — a fifth-generation fighter jet.

The high-threat environment in Ukraine, where pilots in older aircraft are having to fly low to the ground to skirt enemy radars for fear of being shot out of the sky by a surface-to-air missile, is exactly what fifth-generation stealth fighters were made for.

So where has Russia's much-touted Su-57 been all this time?

The Su-57 — known by NATO as 'Felon' — has largely been missing in action beyond possibly firing missiles from Russian territory last year. Western intelligence and aviation experts say Russia's reluctance to employ the aircraft in combat suggests Moscow may not be confident in the jet's purported stealth capabilities and technology and likely wants to avoid any potential reputational damage that could come from losing one of these aircraft to Kyiv's surface-to-air missile systems.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/where-s-the-su-57-the-war-in-ukra
ine-is-what-fifth-generation-fighter-jets-were-made-for-but-russia-s-felon-has-largely-been-missing-in-action/ar-AA1iBKRU?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=EDGEXST&cvid=907b3384e5b24454b95c53bb4e842c02&ei=26




Too funny comrade, too funny.

T




TED. DUMMY. YOUR OWN PARTY IS SUPPORTING THE ENEMIES OF ISRAEL.

You have no opinion on this though?

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Sunday, October 22, 2023 7:58 AM

Now, how did THAT happen??
The dratted double!

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Sunday, October 22, 2023 8:01 AM

Where's the F-35?

In the hangar, of course. Getting fixed... again.

Quote:

The number of major F-35 flaws is shrinking, but the Pentagon is keeping details of the problems under wraps
July 2021

WASHINGTON — As the F-35 program inches its way through operational testing, the number of critical technical deficiencies is slowly dwindling, dropping from 11 critical deficiencies in January to seven in July.



https://www.defensenews.com/smr/hidden-troubles-f35/2021/07/16/the-num
ber-of-major-f-35-flaws-is-shrinking-but-the-pentagon-is-keeping-details-of-the-problems-under-wraps
/


Quote:

The inside story of two supersonic flights that changed how America operates the F-35

WASHINGTON — The F-35 pilot who flew the two infamous supersonic missions that inflicted damage to the jet’s stealth coating and tail wants to set the record straight.

. . .

The Defense Department considers the issue “closed” as of December 2019 despite no plan to correct the problem. The F-35 Joint Program Office explained that “the operator value provided by a complete fix does not justify the estimated cost of that fix.”



https://www.defensenews.com/smr/hidden-troubles-f35/2020/05/22/the-ins
ide-story-of-two-supersonic-flights-that-changed-how-america-operates-the-f-35
/

So don't, yanno, fly it too fast or it'll break.

That's not counting the software downloads that take hours.


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Sunday, October 22, 2023 9:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So don't, yanno, fly it too fast or it'll break.

That's not counting the software downloads that take hours.



Or the monthly subscription costs for heated seats and additional horsepower.

No worries though. They can just ask Second to post a link for the mods to unlock that stuff for free.



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Sunday, October 22, 2023 6:27 PM

Oct 21 - Marcus Keupp maintains that Russia can no longer gain the upper hand in this conflict. While hostilities continue, strategically, the war is already lost for Russia.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/renowned-military-economist-ru
ssia-can-no-longer-win-the-war/ar-AA1iDzyH


What was Keupp saying in March?

Marcus Keupp, ETH Zurich Military Economist predicts Russia losing this Year: "There is no other course" [In German] March 16, 2023

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkrainianConflict/comments/128jxdx/marcus_keu
pp_eth_zurich_military_economist
/

ETH military economist Marcus Keupp believes he can calculate the end of the Ukraine war. He spreads this prophecy in the media. Is such a prediction serious, and why would a scientist risk their reputation?

Mr. Keupp, how would you describe the current war situation in Ukraine? What is the situation in the contested area of Bachmut?

Today is day 386 of the three-day "special operation" of the Russian armed forces. Seriously: Since January, we have seen the last Russian initiative that is still possible in this war in the Donbass. This initiative is doomed to fail because the Russians are gradually running out of material and personnel. The situation around Bachmut also has no strategic significance for the overall front line. Ukraine is also currently finishing training its tank crews in Germany and Poland. This means that we can expect a Ukrainian counteroffensive with Western tanks in mid-April.

How will it look like?

Ukraine will probably advance from Zaporizhia via Melitopol to the Black Sea coast, thus dividing the front into two parts. With a swing to the west, they could then encircle the Russian forces between Melitopol and Nova Kakhovka. In addition, they could place HIMARS missile systems on the coast and thus attack the military installations on the Crimea and cut off logistics. That will be the moment when the Russian defeat becomes apparent. That is my prediction. That's why I also said: Russia will have militarily lost the war by October. The military situation will be comparable to 1944 when the European war was lost for the Axis powers.

You rely mainly on numbers: you say that up to 600 Russian soldiers are killed every day. The Russians lose 5 tanks and 6 armored personnel carriers every day. Where do you get these numbers from?

I'll give you an example with the tanks. There are good estimates available for this. One comes from the Swedish Defense Agency FOI. The other is the estimate from IISS in London. These institutes estimate there are about 2,900 operational Russian combat tanks. Now you have to set this against the loss rate. For this, I use the Oryx blog. Today, we are at 1,845 tanks that Russia has lost - about 5 per day of war. The remaining reserve of 1,055 tanks is therefore still sufficient for a maximum of 211 days of war. And this doesn't even take into account the technology effect - Russia is mobilizing increasingly older tanks, while Ukraine is receiving modern Western systems.

And where do the Oryx data come from?

Oryx is a collective that analyzes Russian losses. It is the best data source on Russian losses available. There are various individuals behind it, who are based in Poland and Turkey and count the losses. This source is probably still conservative because it only counts what is actually geo-located in pictures or videos.

And suppose Russia still has more reserves?

What could the Russians possibly have left? They have the myth of an alleged wonder weapon: the Armata T-14 battle tank, which we have not yet seen on the battlefield. In the spring offensive, we will see pictures of Western Leopard 2 and Challenger 2 tanks that can shoot significantly further than Russian tanks and thus eliminate them from a distance. If you add up the technology boost among the Ukrainians, the Russian loss rate, and the depleting resources, then no other outcome is conceivable than a Russian defeat.

You believe that Russia will not use nuclear weapons. How can you be sure o

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Sunday, October 22, 2023 7:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Oct 21 - Marcus Keupp maintains that Russia can no longer gain the upper hand in this conflict. While hostilities continue, strategically, the war is already lost for Russia.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/renowned-military-economist-ru
ssia-can-no-longer-win-the-war/ar-AA1iDzyH


What was Keupp saying in March?



Apparently you didn't know the answer to that back in march, because your dumb ass has been fearmongering a nuclear strike.

Quote:

You believe that Russia will not use nuclear weapons. How can you be sure of this?

Nuclear weapons are a psychological weapon that Putin is using deliberately. Especially in Germany, it has an impact. Just mentioning it creates the typical German discourse of fear. I don't need to explain to you that a nuclear war cannot be won. Any nuclear use would immediately lead to escalation, even in conventional terms. Putin cannot have any interest in that.



Yeah. That's EXACTLY what I told you whenever you'd bring it up.

As for his numbers, there's no proving any of them. This isn't tracking how movies do in the box office where there are actual receipts. By his own admission this is statistics he gets from the Swedish Defense Agency FOI and IISS in London. I'll invite you to look on a map and tell me where Sweeden and the UK are located in relation to Russia.

SPOILER ALERT: We're in Indiana and Texas. We can make up numbers just as easy as they can. Ukraine has lost a Bajillion tanks!


Yup. Posting an article in October to blow a guy that makes stuff up when he isn't analyzing made up data who invited you to blow him come October in an interview he did in March is pretty dumb.

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