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Russia Invades Ukraine. Again

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Thursday, October 19, 2023 2:11 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

I've been largely ignoring Second's posts on this topic as of late, but I did want to point out that he's now making posts quoting people who are advocating sending in 2 Million US soldiers to fight the war for Ukraine.

Not a great plan, sending in 2 Million of our battle-aged men when we've let in far more battle-aged men among the illegal invaders that have crossed the border under Joe Biden*'s watch.

How was WWI won?
https://www.google.com/search?q=How+was+WWI+won

The conclusion was that tactics ever so slowly learned by the French over several years of suffering were the key. But France needed American manpower and artillery shells to turn the key. The US Army in France, initially, recapitulated every mistake the French had made and had a horrendous number of deaths, but the Americans didn't continue to do the wrong-headed ideas as long as the French had. Riflemen running directly toward German machine gun fire was probably the stupidest tactic ever devised by man. It gets even worse when the Generals decide that attacking Germany's strongest positions with fixed bayonets is noble while attacking the weakest German positions is cowardly. At first, American Generals made the same mistakes as the French had, until the French grew wiser, partially because the dumbest were dead. The Americans got wiser ten times faster than the French and did not require millions of deaths to learn simple ideas. The French told the Americans what the French had done wrong and the Americans eventually understood after only tens of thousands of Americans died rather than more than a million in the case of France.

Russia had the most deaths because it was the stupidest country fighting WWI:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I_casualties

A higher death toll happened to Russians in WWII because they got dumber:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, October 20, 2023 1:52 AM

Amazing how quickly this can be memory-hoked.

But, yep- Russia is still winning.

I'll let you know when Ukraine collapses.


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Friday, October 20, 2023 1:54 AM

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Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

I've been largely ignoring Second's posts on this topic as of late, but I did want to point out that he's now making posts quoting people who are advocating sending in 2 Million US soldiers to fight the war for Ukraine.

Not a great plan, sending in 2 Million of our battle-aged men when we've let in far more battle-aged men among the illegal invaders that have crossed the border under Joe Biden*'s watch.

How was WWI won?
https://www.google.com/search?q=How+was+WWI+won

The conclusion was that tactics ever so slowly learned by the French over several years of suffering were the key. But France needed American manpower and artillery shells to turn the key. The US Army in France, initially, recapitulated every mistake the French had made and had a horrendous number of deaths, but the Americans didn't continue to do the wrong-headed ideas as long as the French had. Riflemen running directly toward German machine gun fire was probably the stupidest tactic ever devised by man. It gets even worse when the Generals decide that attacking Germany's strongest positions with fixed bayonets is noble while attacking the weakest German positions is cowardly. At first, American Generals made the same mistakes as the French had, until the French grew wiser, partially because the dumbest were dead. The Americans got wiser ten times faster than the French and did not require millions of deaths to learn simple ideas. The French told the Americans what the French had done wrong and the Americans eventually understood after only tens of thousands of Americans died rather than more than a million in the case of France.

Russia had the most deaths because it was the stupidest country fighting WWI:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I_casualties

A higher death toll happened to Russians in WWII because they got dumber:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



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THG
Friday, October 20, 2023 4:44 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Amazing how quickly this can be memory-hoked.

But, yep- Russia is still winning.

I'll let you know when Ukraine collapses.





Israeli Official Issues Warning to Putin on Russian State TV

An Israeli politician issued a warning to Russian President Vladimir Putin amid the ongoing wars in Israel and Ukraine.

Amir Weitmann, the head of the libertarian caucus in Israel's Likud Party, appeared on Russia's state-run RT News network this week and spoke about fighting between Israel and Hamas militants, as well as Russia's war with Ukraine.

While speaking about recent claims relating to al-Ahli Hospital in Gaza City, Weitmann criticized Russia, saying that "we're gonna finish this war, we're going to win because we're stronger. After this, Russia will pay the price, believe me, Russia will pay the price."

"Russia is supporting the enemies of Israel. Russia is supporting Nazi people who want to commit genocide on us and Russia will pay the price," Weitmann said. "We're gonna win this war. Afterwards, we're not forgetting what you're doing, we're not forgetting, we will come, we will make sure Ukraine wins. We will make sure that you pay the price for what you have done, you as Russia."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/israeli-official-issues-warning-t
o-putin-on-russian-state-tv/ar-AA1iwENX?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=EDGEXST&cvid=7d47470521ea49698b0a8bd6e1fdaf5e&ei=19




Yep...

T

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Friday, October 20, 2023 8:34 AM


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Amazing how quickly this can be memory-hoked.
But, yep- Russia is still winning.
I'll let you know when Ukraine collapses.


THUGR:
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Israeli Official Issues Warning to Putin on Russian State TV
An Israeli politician issued a warning to Russian President Vladimir Putin amid the ongoing wars in Israel and Ukraine.
Amir Weitmann, the head of the libertarian caucus


A military expert, I'm sure.
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in Israel's Likud Party, appeared on Russia's state-run RT News network this week and spoke about fighting between Israel and Hamas militants, as well as Russia's war with Ukraine.

While speaking about recent claims relating to al-Ahli Hospital in Gaza City, Weitmann criticized Russia, saying that "we're gonna finish this war, we're going to win because we're stronger. After this, Russia will pay the price, believe me, Russia will pay the price."

"Russia is supporting the enemies of Israel. Russia is supporting Nazi people who want to commit genocide on us and Russia will pay the price," Weitmann said. "We're gonna win this war. Afterwards, we're not forgetting what you're doing, we're not forgetting, we will come, we will make sure Ukraine wins. We will make sure that you pay the price for what you have done, you as Russia."



Yep...


Son, do you really think that Israel can beat Russia?
Dood, it would be like watching a Chihuahua attack a bear.



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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

Loving America is like loving an addicted spouse - SIGNYM


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Friday, October 20, 2023 9:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Amazing how quickly this can be memory-hoked.

But, yep- Russia is still winning.

I'll let you know when Ukraine collapses.





Israeli Official Issues Warning to Putin on Russian State TV

An Israeli politician issued a warning to Russian President Vladimir Putin amid the ongoing wars in Israel and Ukraine.

Amir Weitmann, the head of the libertarian caucus in Israel's Likud Party, appeared on Russia's state-run RT News network this week and spoke about fighting between Israel and Hamas militants, as well as Russia's war with Ukraine.

While speaking about recent claims relating to al-Ahli Hospital in Gaza City, Weitmann criticized Russia, saying that "we're gonna finish this war, we're going to win because we're stronger. After this, Russia will pay the price, believe me, Russia will pay the price."

"Russia is supporting the enemies of Israel. Russia is supporting Nazi people who want to commit genocide on us and Russia will pay the price," Weitmann said. "We're gonna win this war. Afterwards, we're not forgetting what you're doing, we're not forgetting, we will come, we will make sure Ukraine wins. We will make sure that you pay the price for what you have done, you as Russia."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/israeli-official-issues-warning-t
o-putin-on-russian-state-tv/ar-AA1iwENX?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=EDGEXST&cvid=7d47470521ea49698b0a8bd6e1fdaf5e&ei=19




Yep...

T





Dude. Half of your fucking party is supporting Hamas terrorists right now.

What are you worried about Russia for?





ETA:

Chaos erupts as pro-Palestinian protesters demand ceasefire at the Capitol; at least 3 allegedly assault cops

https://nypost.com/2023/10/18/chaos-erupts-as-pro-palestinian-proteste
rs-take-to-the-capitol-at-least-three-arrested
/

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Hundreds of Pro-Palestinian protesters converged on the US Capitol complex Wednesday, demanding a ceasefire between Israel and Hamas.

Capitol Police, which tightened security in advance of the protests said an unspecified amount of demonstrators were arrested, including at least three on charges of assaulting a police officer.

Emotions were tense as the largely progressive crowd felt betrayed by President Biden and other leading Democrats for backing Israel’s bid to eliminate the terrorist threat in the Gaza Strip.

“I think the White House and everyone thinks we’re just gonna sit back and let this just continue to happen. No!” Rep. Rashida Tlaib (D-Mich.) declared to a sea of activists outside the Cannon House Office Building.




As Biden Turns against Israel, Netanyahu Must Stand Strong

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/20068/biden-turns-against-israel

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On Sunday, U.S. President Joe Biden, Secretary of State Antony Blinken and National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan all announced that the United States expects Israel to permit "humanitarian aid" into Gaza.

The implications of this position are devastating for Israel. According to reports, there are "hundreds of trucks" lined up on the border in Egypt, poised to enter the Gaza Strip carrying so-called "humanitarian aid." These trucks, if permitted to enter, will not be inspected in any significant way. There is no reason to believe they are carrying baby formula and foodstuffs that will be delivered to the needy. There is every reason to believe they are carrying war materiel and jihadist fighters who have arrived to augment Hamas.

To the extent that there is food in the trucks, who will it feed? The hostages? The infirm? Who will the medicine be delivered to? The hostages? Will the fuel in the trucks be used in refrigerators to feed the captive Israelis?

Of cours

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Saturday, October 21, 2023 4:23 PM

Ukraine's Counteroffensive Is More Successful Than You Think

The focus on the stalled land war obscures major successes in Crimea and the Black Sea.

By Oz Katerji, a British Lebanese freelance journalist focusing on conflict, human rights, and the Middle East, and Vladislav Davidzon, the European culture correspondent at Tablet. | October 20, 2023, 1:59 PM

https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/10/20/ukraine-crimea-black-sea-countero
ffensive-russia-fleet-navy-drones-war
/

Recent coverage of the war in Ukraine in the Western media has focused heavily on Kyiv’s land offensive, especially attempts to push toward the Black Sea coast. Much of the scrutiny, rightly or wrongly, has been on Kyiv’s lack of significant progress so far this year, with nothing comparable to last year’s breakthrough offensives in Kharkiv and Kherson.

While some of this criticism may be justified, the almost singular Western focus on territorial breakthroughs has distracted from the fact that Ukraine is fighting a medium- to long-term war on multiple fronts against a significantly larger and heavily entrenched foe. What’s more, the lack of a major Ukrainian land advance obscures the very real battlefield successes Ukraine has had in other theaters of the conflict—most notably in Russian-occupied Crimea and the Black Sea.

A crucial part of Kyiv’s long-term plan for the war is to push Russia out of the Crimean Peninsula and the rest of the Russian-occupied parts of Ukraine’s coastline. Since the start of the full-scale invasion, Russia’s Black Sea Fleet, headquartered at the Crimean port of Sevastopol, has been a critical component of Moscow’s war effort. Russian warships operating out of Sevastopol have enforced a blockade of Ukraine’s coastline and launched cruise missiles to rain hell onto Ukrainian cities and infrastructure.

But over the last several months, Ukraine has achieved a series of startling victories in and around Crimea, including missile strikes against the Kerch Strait bridge and multiple daring attacks on the Black Sea Fleet itself—with major impacts on the Russians’ ability to operate on the peninsula and in the western Black Sea.

In September, the Ukrainians carried out a series of missile strikes against Russian naval assets in Sevastopol, including a landing ship, a submarine, and the headquarters of the Black Sea Fleet itself—reportedly while several high-ranking commanders were inside. Some of these strikes were carried out using Storm Shadow cruise missiles recently supplied by Britain and France. The Ukrainians have also ratcheted up their strikes against Russian logistics, repair, and infrastructure hubs on the peninsula with the intent of degrading Russia’s ability to support its fleet. Earlier this month, Kyiv claimed responsibility for two further attacks on the Russian fleet, using a new type of sea drone to strike the Russian cruise missile carrier Buyan and carrying out a sabotage attack on the Pavel Derzhavin, a Russian patrol ship. These strikes came after the Ukrainians had methodically attrited Russian anti-missile defense structures in Crimea over the previous weeks.

These successes constitute a major breakthrough for Ukraine. Its strikes against Crimea have now made it all but impossible for the Russian Black Sea Fleet to continue to operate freely in the western Black Sea. The Russian Navy has responded by moving its warships farther east, to the naval base in Novorossiysk, a port city on the Russian mainland. The effect is to push the Russian fleet farther and farther into the eastern recesses of the Black Sea—a step toward Kyiv’s long-term objective of removing the Russians from the occupied peninsula by rendering it unfeasible for operations. This combination of attrition and displacement has had the effect of diminishing the Russian fleet’s capacity to patrol the waters near the Ukrainian ports, partially relieving pressure on the international shipping lanes in the Black Sea. This could allow Kyiv to achieve another goal of these operations: opening up Odesa’s three deep-water ports to

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Saturday, October 21, 2023 5:18 PM

Stalin's Millennials: Nostalgia, Trauma, and Nationalism

Perspectives: “Russia is going to wake up to a very difficult reality”

A Q&A with Georgian author Tinatin Japaridze | Oct 20, 2023

https://eurasianet.org/perspectives-russia-is-going-to-wake-up-to-a-ve
ry-difficult-reality


I wrote this book because of what my family had gone through under Stalin and the trauma I inherited from them. I thought, “Once I’ve gotten everything on paper, I can really forget about it.”

Unfortunately, the war made me realize that the distance that I thought I had achieved was an illusion. The Russian playbook, whether we call it Russian or Soviet, is still very much there, and it has not really been updated. One of the reasons why I thought that Russia was not going to invade was that I thought Russian authorities had learned from past mistakes. And I was very, very wrong. That was absolutely not the case.

Eurasianet: One of the things you write in your book is that there has been no de-Stalinization process. Not only that, there has not been a reckoning with the Soviet past.

TJ: We tend to view Russia as a direct inheritor of all of the Soviet legacies, good and bad. They did not deal with the repercussions, the implications, the guilt, the trauma, just like the Georgians and Ukrainians and other post-Soviet countries did not necessarily deal with the trauma, the victimhood. The attitude was “If we don’t talk about it, it’ll go away.” It is very true for my native Georgia to a point where, if you brought up the Soviet period, a lot of people would say, “I just don’t want to talk about it.” Not because it is still painful, but people just did not want to acknowledge that those 70 years actually happened.

I think that was somewhat true for Ukraine too until they no longer could ignore what had happened. We saw very recently images of Ukrainians taking down the Soviet insignia from various monuments. I see it as one of the ways that the country is starting to come to terms with what has happened. In Russia’s case, they have not reckoned with that period because someone would have had to take responsibility.

Download the free book Stalin's Millennials: Nostalgia, Trauma, and Nationalism from the mirrors at https://libgen.is//search.php?req=Tinatin+Japaridze

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, October 21, 2023 9:28 PM

What do you care?

Your Democrat Party uses the Stalin playbook as their Bible.

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Saturday, October 21, 2023 10:52 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
What do you care?

Your Democrat Party uses the Stalin playbook as their Bible.

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Political correctness is just tyranny, with a smiley face.

The life expectancy chart shows Russia and the USA both had a recent decrease in years lived. What is the common cause? Large numbers of stupid Russians and even stupider Trumptards making poor life style decisions: smoking, drinking, obesity, illegal drugs, suicide, etc. Even the stupidest person typically has total control of what they eat, drink, breath, inject, and vote for, so it is unsurprising when the stupidest make pretty darn bad (and life shortening) decisions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_expectancy


Being a Trumptard will shorten your life, as will stupidly playing Russian Roulette by fighting with Ukraine.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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