Futurist movement, Techno Science Optimists
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Scholz says nuclear energy issue 'a dead horse' for Germany
https://www.dw.com/en/scholz-says-nuclear-energy-issue-a-dead-horse-fo
r-germany/a-66702837
All the elements found on Earth other than hydrogen and helium were made by transmutation in various kinds of stars.
In the distant future, we could use artificial fusion not only for energy but to make whatever elements we like.
https://twitter.com/HumanProgress/status/1693975056467087469
Nuclear Fusion Won't Be Regulated in the US the Same Way as Nuclear Fission
https://hardware.slashdot.org/story/23/04/23/1839243/nuclear-fusion-wo
nt-be-regulated-in-the-us-the-same-way-as-nuclear-fission
the west almost invents something...
maybe China will copy the blue prints and get there first?
https://twitter.com/gunsnrosesgirl3/status/1697306265209250062
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Is FLOATING NUCLEAR a good idea?!
https://twitter.com/Gen_Atomic/status/1700170854863192217
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I went thru this already JAYNZE.
Stars manage to fuse hydrogen because their tremendous gravitational forces press hydrogen so closely togther it overcomes their nuclei's natural repulsion.
The only way yhat you can get that to happen artifically is to ram hydrogen molecules together at very high speed (ie very hot temperature) while being held tightly in a magnetic bottle.
And. so how do we generate all of this HEAT?
Well, using energy, of course! (Lasers, in the latest experiment)
Until very recently, it took MORE POWER to ram hydrogen molecules togther than they released when they fused. The only trick isn't getting hydrogen molecules to fuse, the trick is to get them to release more energy than the process demands.
Even a tiny amount of extra power coming out is a big breakthrough, and it was just repeated Jun 30, 2023 at Lawrence Livermore, https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/us-scientists-repeat-fusion-po
wer-breakthrough-ft-2023-08-06/ but it was such a teeny-tiny bit of power it was hard to measure. Unless there's a huge leap in technology soon, practical development is a long ways away.
Unless, of course, you manage to corral a star's worth of hydrogen and have it generate enough gravity to ignite your own star?
And 'cold fusion' has never been repeated, altho many have tried.
I'm afraid fusion - cold or otherwise- is just 'magical thinking' and hopium.
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Seattle Startup in Race for Nuclear Fusion - Zap Energy
https://www.voanews.com/a/seattle-startup-in-race-for-nuclear-fusion/7
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The huge number of deals fuelling nuclear fusion race
https://www.afr.com/policy/energy-and-climate/the-huge-deals-propellin
g-race-for-fusion-power-20230910-p5e3hs
Fusion News
Nuclear fusion: Chinese power firm hails step forward in quest to build ‘artificial sun’
https://amp.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3232459/nuclear-fusion
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British Breakthrough Fusion Reactor
More fusion progress for China
https://www.neimagazine.com/news/newsmore-fusion-progress-for-china-11
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Exotic Approach to Nuclear Fusion Helion Energy BTS...the Moon has lots of stuff
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Okay, to qualify my negative assessment on fusion - it's a technology that MIGHT solve our energy problems. I think we could be looking at 10-50 years in the future. 10 years if someone achieves an astonishing breakthrough in a year. 50 years if we keep going at the rate we've been going. Possibly never. It could be the problems are unsolvable.
But that's why I call it HOPIUM. You can't count on something to solve an immediate problem if that something doesn't exist/ isn't working, and you can't believe it will magically come into existence just bc you really really hope it will, or even desperately need it to. THAT'S magical thinking.
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Very little net gain yet
one of the reactors so simple a 12 yr old could build one...but a very smart 12 year old.
and what happens when those science kids go on the web and chat with Artificial Intelligence asking it for advice?
AI Designed Hybrid Fusion Fission Reactor!
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Just bc something is simple in theory doesn't mean it's workable IRL.
More magical thinking.
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JAYNZE... again ... let me make clear... I'm not against fusion. I'd be surprised as shit but exceedingly happy if someone actually managed COLD fusion. All of the phsyics books would have to be rewritten!
And I don't even doubt that significant advances can be made by citizen scientists. I read an article about five who came up with unprecedented new theories... unfortunately I only remember the one about the woman in San Diego who was having her kitchen re-tiled who began wondering whether it was true that there were only a few kinds of mathematical 'spaces' that could be mapped with five colors. Too bad I don't remember the rest.
What I object to is the belief/hope that a breakthrough will occur BECAUSE it's 'simple'. Or BECAUSE we need it. Or BECAUSE it was discovered by a non-scientist/ child/ housewife. That the ONLY thing holding us back is fear, or hidebound thinking, or commercial interests. What that leads to is the belief that if we 'believe' something hard enough, it will happen. 'Peter Pan' thinking.
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The real Peter Pan thinking is believing that if Cold Fusion were even possible that the people would ever benefit from it in the first place.
You can't have billions of people obeying their Masters if they don't need them anymore.
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Quote:Nah. The real Peter Pan thinking us that we ever needed them in the first place. They're not masters, they're parasites. All of the progress, all of the production, happens despite them. We'd be better off without them.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
The real Peter Pan thinking is believing that if Cold Fusion were even possible that the people would ever benefit from it in the first place.
You can't have billions of people obeying their Masters if they don't need them anymore.
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