Galactica Renewal - Its Official!
POSTED BY: Panic
UPDATED: Friday, February 11, 2005 22:09
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Is "So say we all" the new "By your command?"
We have seen Boxy actually, he showed up in the prison break episode as Starbuck's "sidekick" when she was doing the pilots' briefing. Which is cool; he's actually entertaining instead of irritating. Cute without being cutesy.
Also got a kick out of his "what are you, stupid?" look at Tighe. 
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KNIBBLET said
Are we to understand that you were never fond of the stupid robot dog, Muffet?
However did you guess? It wasn't so much the dog as the combination of the two. Between Boxey saying "Come here Muffy! Darn you Daggit!" and Muffet saving the ship or the warriors or some such…
Short answer: Yeah!
Quote:Is it just me, or has the week slowed down considerably in anticipation of the new BSG? And does this remind any one else of another time when we anxiously awaited Friday night? Should I be concerned?
KNIBBLET said
I LOVE this version of BSG. Totally love it. I've abandoned all other Friday night pursuits (prepaid season tickets be damned if the game is up against BSG - I cannot wait for a VCR version the next day but must see it NOW!!!!!) and skip blinking for an hour.
Quote:Well, no, not with a killer instinct, but then the original version wasn't exactly geared that way either. I can totally see Our Girl and Zoe having a quiet drink that just might end up in a brawl because Starbuck said something Zoe took exception to. And we all know this wouldn't be any girl fight either, right?
KNIBBLET said
Starbuck kicks ass. I love this girl. Dirk Benedict was a pretty boy, but never believable as an ace pilot with killer instinct. This Starbuck rocks.
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KNIBBLET said
So say we all.
Quote:Well, since the Cylons haven't really used the good old BSG standby, so I guess I would say why not?
to which Cybersnark inquired
Is "So say we all" the new "By your command?"
Quote:Your wife sounds cute. My reaction was more like a full-throated "NOOO!" that had my housemates staring at me. But they do that a lot anyway, so no big.
BrownCoat1 said
I have to say when I saw Boxy in the pilot I was terrified that were going to have him and Muffet on the show. I rolled my eyes and let out an audible groan, which elicited a laugh from my wife.
Thankfully we have not seen them in the series (knock on wood). Hopefully we won't either.
Cybersnark's right though, BC. He did show up in the second regular episode. I have this notion that he might be Cylon model number 12. Any takers?
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CYBERSNARK said about New Boxey
Also got a kick out of his "what are you, stupid?" look at Tighe.
YEAH. Maybe he'll end up as a miniature version of the old Starbuck.Quote:Spoken like one who is still pure and unjaded with no experience with the heinous paranoia that comes with enjoying quality programming only to have it snatched cruelly away. Either that, or you've successfully dealt with your anger a lot better than some of us - me being one. I'm glad to see there's someone out there who isn't fearful that BSG will suffer the same fate as Firefly, or the eventual fate of FarScape. I mean once Sci-fi comes to it's senses or looks at their profit margin and says, "OKAY! We've spent the entire budget on BSG - axe that puppy!" The fleet will be obliterated by the Almighty Network. Who needs Cylons?
Greenfaerie said
BSG renewed...Never had a doubt it wouldn't be!
Did I mention I was jaded?
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Channy wrote (in part):
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...Is it just me, or has the week slowed down considerably in anticipation of the new BSG? And does this remind any one else of another time when we anxiously awaited Friday night? Should I be concerned?...
I've said it before on other threads regarding this incarnation of BSG, but it bears repeating, so here goes: the new Battlestar Galactica is the second best science fiction TV series of all time. We all know what #1 is, don't we? And that's not just stubborness or loyalty on my part, either. Firefly kicks everything else's a$$. But, I'm not gonna hold that against BSG. It's a very good show, and deserving of renewal.
BSG and FF are two sides of the same coin: Firefly was/is more intimate, warm and earthy; Battlestar is more serious, institutional and crisis-based, and lacks the unforced humor of FF. BSG is kinda like the Purplebellies' view of intergalactic conflict. But that doesn't mean they can't coexist in our hearts.
If there is a God (and I believe there is), and He listens to and answers prayers, somehow Firefly will wind up back on TV. SciFi Fridays with Firefly and Galactica (sans any Stargate variant stinking up the joint) would totally rock. Unfortunately, there's only so much God can do without making Himself too obvious and ruining that whole 'free will' thing. Getting FF away from F*x would certainly require a major rearrangement of 'Reality', as we perceive it...
Fanatically,
zoid
P.S.
Y'all do know that Captain Apollo (Jamie Bamber) is a Brit, right? He does an amazing job with the 'speaking American' thing, wouldn't you agree?
P.P.S.
Given my above analysis, I believe it should now be possible to combine the two series in a fanfic. Any takers?
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Quote:And if you're suggesting in any way shape or form that our enthusiasm over BSG is dampening our love of FF, then you 'n me need to have woids
Originally posted by zoid:
I've said it before on other threads regarding this incarnation of BSG, but it bears repeating, so here goes: the new Battlestar Galactica is the second best science fiction TV series of all time. We all know what #1 is, don't we? And that's not just stubborness or loyalty on my part, either. Firefly kicks everything else's a$$. But, I'm not gonna hold that against BSG. It's a very good show, and deserving of renewal.
Quote:Good analogies all. Probably why none of us were saying that BSG is better than FF - I mean in what part of the 'verse could that ever happen?
Originally posted by zoid:
BSG and FF are two sides of the same coin.
Quote:Networks don't listen to God, zoid. And God listens to all prayers, you know. He answers them all too. The thing is, be very very VERY careful what you pray for, because A) He doesn't always give you the answer you're looking for and B) He's got one doozie of a sense of humor.
Originally posted by zoid:
If there is a God (and I believe there is), and He listens to and answers prayers, somehow Firefly will wind up back on TV.
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Huzzah! I've only seen the mini-series thus far (I don't have Sky One at uni) but I thought it was utterly fantastic. Good to see that quality programming does occasionally survive!
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Channain replied:
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And if you're suggesting in any way shape or form that our enthusiasm over BSG is dampening our love of FF, then you 'n me need to have woids
Hmmm... Maybe I misinterpreted your, "Should I be concerned?" in the previous post; but I was trying to allay your concern that BSG might sap FF's ranks. In which case, what did you mean by 'should I be concerned'?
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Networks don't listen to God, zoid. And God listens to all prayers, you know. He answers them all too. The thing is, be very very VERY careful what you pray for, because A) He doesn't always give you the answer you're looking for and B) He's got one doozie of a sense of humor.
I believe God's Will will be done, regardless who's listening or not. There's a plan for everything, whether we like the results or not. Still, I do pray for Firefly's return, if for no other reason than to let Him know that I care, and that I recognize a certain loss of beauty is increasingly manifesting itself in His Creation (and would He please put a halt to it).
Who knows? Maybe Firefly had to die (on TV), in order that BSG would be given a proper shot by its network? Perhaps the loss of our beloved series will -- in the end -- prove to be the harbinger of the death of 'Reality TV' and a turn to TV entertainment of unprecedented quality? I don't think there's any doubt that Firefly's continuing and growing international fanbase is a prime market force driving BSG's success, and that Vivendi-Universal (owners of Firefly-based movies and the SciFi network) are cognizant and responsive to that fact.
Maybe BSG is the best answer to prayer we can expect, short of rewinding Time and reordering events. But, I'm still praying for that Firefly miracle, even if I don't think a positive response is likely...
Respectfully,
zoid
P.S.
Vivendi-Universal also have a kick-ass electronic gaming division. So, while I'm praying, how about a really good FF RPG for PC? I'll even accept a MMORPG for XBox Live, although that'll mean my boy never gets his system back...
P.P.S.
Channain: Not gonna touch the BSG-FF crossover fanfic idea? I'd love to collaborate on it.
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Always respectfully…because you are, after all, zoid.
Quote:zoid, you are a true flan, you know that? If BSG saps some of FF's ranks, then they were never FF fans to begin with and should be left to go on down their own dark and dreary path.
Originally posted by zoid:
Hmmm... Maybe I misinterpreted your, "Should I be concerned?" in the previous post; but I was trying to allay your concern that BSG might sap FF's ranks. In which case, what did you mean by 'should I be concerned'?
I was actually just joshing a bit about BSG being on Friday nights, the same night that Firefly was on--the SAME NIGHT that brought Firefly to its untimely end on network television. My concern was for the coincidence of the day of the week. The longer BSG stays on, the longer I can have my need for quality science fiction satisfied - and yet quality science fiction and network television have never really cohabitated all that successfully. The original BSG suffered heinously for it back in the day.
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Originally posted by zoid:
I believe God's Will will be done, regardless who's listening or not.
And if God's Will is to make us suffer long and hard before it comes back…? I hope for Firefly's return, but I wouldn't say it's on my prayer list--actually my prayer list is pretty crowded these days. Somehow, I don't think God is making television a priority. If He was, then Firefly would still be on, wouldn't it?
Quote:Now you've got to be kidding. SciFi and other networks are cognizant and responsive to only one thing - the Almighty Dollar, who is their god, their guide, their savior. I like the notion, but my faith walks a different path. Should Firefly return, then I will be one of the happiest browncoats in the 'verse. Should it not… well, it's going to return so there's really no other consideration, is there?
Originally posted by zoid:
Who knows? Maybe Firefly had to die (on TV), in order that BSG would be given a proper shot by its network? Perhaps the loss of our beloved series will -- in the end -- prove to be the harbinger of the death of 'Reality TV' and a turn to TV entertainment of unprecedented quality? I don't think there's any doubt that Firefly's continuing and growing international fanbase is a prime market force driving BSG's success, and that Vivendi-Universal (owners of Firefly-based movies and the SciFi network) are cognizant and responsive to that fact.
Quote:Now I know you've seen what happens when folks try to rewind and reorder things. Short of Dr. Who, chances are, it generally only prolongs the inevitable or just make matters worse. We might even end up with a 'verse that had no Firefly at all. I shudder to even think of such a thing.
Originally posted by zoid:
Maybe BSG is the best answer to prayer we can expect, short of rewinding Time and reordering events. But, I'm still praying for that Firefly miracle, even if I don't think a positive response is likely...
Quote:I don't believe I said I wouldn't touch it. These things need rumination. If I did anything with it, it would just be a short story of some manner, that's all. Then again, I said Heartbroken (my first fan fic) would be only four parts back when I started it and now it's nine. Odd how that happens.
Originally posted by zoid:
Not gonna touch the BSG-FF crossover fanfic idea? I'd love to collaborate on it.
And collaboration would be mighty appreciated.
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I must admit that I haven't been following BSG, although I watched the miniseries. Of course, in a parallel world, the Sci Fi channel would have picked up Firefly and decided not to go with BSG but there we go.
If you ever feel that perhaps this board or indeed any sci-fi board goes a bit over the top when it is pro or con a topic, you might like to bear this example in mind of what happens when someone really, really hates a series:
http://xsorbit26.com/users5/languatron/index.php
Scary.
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"Of course, in a parallel world, the Sci Fi channel would have picked up Firefly and decided not to go with BSG but there we go."
- SimonWHo
Well, I would say that why not have both?!? I mean, it IS the SciFi channel after all. Then it could get rid of some of the Less Than Good shows it has on now.
Edit: Dude... that link. This guy needs to get a life. All the posts are by him. All the replies are by him.
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Originally posted by Channain:
... I have this notion that he (Boxey) might be Cylon model number 12. Any takers?
Yep, I had a similar notion when I saw the first episode. But after Boomer turned up as a Cylon, I began to think it was unlikely.
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