Uggh... Barbie looks awful (and Oppenheimer is too long)
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UPDATED: Monday, August 3, 2026 02:12
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I responded to your post in the other thread, regarding my mistaken post about Barbie International figures for weekdays/weekends.
However, you may be confused about the post I made above. The fact that they claimed that they had $1B in Box Office, when they did not have the receipts, and then they were also short on their bloated projections for that weekend, is the pertinent point of my post.
My post above still pertains. If you don't understand it, or disagree, you may elaborate.
I think I am confused, maybe?
Like I said, we're pretty much left in the dark on international receipts and accounting, so I'm sure it's really easy to change those around and make it look like a movie hit $1 Billion before it actually does and not fear losing credibility as long as they know for damn sure that it was going to hit $1 Billion within a few days from the stated date.
If you have evidence to the contrary in this case I'd love to hear more. I heard other online outfits claiming it took Barbie 20 days to hit $1 Billion. The only thing that gives me real pause here, and it's not insignificant, is the extra $31 Million added on Monday morning. I'm not saying that Bruce never adds to the international total twice in a week, but I found that pretty strange, especially when it was hovering right around one Billion that weekend... although with the $118 added on Sunday it had already just crossed $1 Billion by a few bucks.
BTW... did you notice my last post? Barbie's production budget was $145 Million and it was confirmed that its marketing budget was even higher than that at $150 Million. Not only does that bring Barbie down quite a bit on our lists, but it also is great evidence that the 2.0 Rule of Thumb is outdated and the 2.5 Rule of Thumb is more accurate in BidenflationLand. If Barbie's production budget and marketing budget combined already equate to $295 Million, than Barbie needed to make a lot more than only $300 Million to break even when theater takes are accounted for.
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How much are theater takes?
I keep forgetting to ask - have you been archiving the International Box Office pages of Barbie at The Numbers?
Bruce finally just posted the black numbers for Barbie for F,S,S.
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
How much are theater takes?
I can't get definitive numbers on that. I've heard 50%. I've heard 40%. I've heard 30%. I've heard that large studios like Disney take the lion's share of the first two weeks in the theaters then only get like 25% on the back end. It also varies wildly from country to country, with China getting a sweetheart deal.
It's just one more reason why the Rule of Thumb is so nebulous.
My guess is that, since we know the Production Budget ballooned to $145 Million and they've come out and said that the marketing was $150 Million (which is surprising because NOBODY ever gives the marketing budget), Barbie needed to make about $375 to $400 Million to break even, and even after that the theaters are taking a much larger dollar amount from the total box office than any other movies this year outside of SMB and to a smaller extent Guardians 3, simply because of how much damn money its making.
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I keep forgetting to ask - have you been archiving the International Box Office pages of Barbie at The Numbers?
No. I haven't. The closest we've got to that is my rounded numbers for Barbie once per week on the weekly lists, or the percentage over budget (which was all rounded to the nearest million to get), and then converting that to a dollar figure and subtracting the domestic share on that given day. It won't give you the exact numbers, but it would be somewhere in the immediate ballpark.
I don't really feel the need to do it since we can't see what is on the other side of the international equation anyhow.
But I really wish I did it when MI7 got something in the area of $275 Million added to its China box office one night only to have it completely removed the very next morning. I hope Tom Cruise didn't see that and celebrate. It bumped MI7 to over $700 Million for one night and then it went right back down to under $500 Million the next morning. That was maybe like 10 days ago or something, and it's still around $200 Million less than it was that one single night on The Numbers.
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Afer 3 weeks in theaters, Algeria is the latest to Ban Barbie, mostly due to the GAY and Woke parts.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/anafaguy/2023/08/15/barbie-banned-in-alge
ria-heres-where-else-you-cant-see-the-box-office-hit/?sh=724ef1d565b9
https://www.nme.com/news/film/heres-every-country-barbie-banned-348344
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https://www.axios.com/2023/08/16/barbie-movie-banned-in-what-countries
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainment/movies/all-the-countries-that-
have-banned-the-barbie-movie/ar-AA1fp7HX
Uncle Walt would be so proud.
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Afer 3 weeks in theaters, Algeria is the latest to Ban Barbie, mostly due to the GAY and Woke parts.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/anafaguy/2023/08/15/barbie-banned-in-alge
ria-heres-where-else-you-cant-see-the-box-office-hit/?sh=724ef1d565b9
https://www.nme.com/news/film/heres-every-country-barbie-banned-348344
7
https://www.axios.com/2023/08/16/barbie-movie-banned-in-what-countries
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainment/movies/all-the-countries-that-
have-banned-the-barbie-movie/ar-AA1fp7HX
Uncle Walt would be so proud.
Fuck Uncle Walt, this flick was made by Warner Brothers. All of the flick that have been made at Uncle Walt's old company have been flops. I'm not going to ever see 'Barbie' BUT, I'm glad it turned 'Indy 5' into a bucket of goo.
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Yeah. Not all things woke are Disney. Not even hardly.
Sadly, they're not all failures either.
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Yeah. Not all things woke are Disney. Not even hardly.
Sadly, they're not all failures either.
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I has become so difficult to see a difference between WokeSayGay Disney films and WokeSayGay Warner films.
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Barbie International figures bounced around again.
Still nonsense is the China numbers - the screens and engagements make no sense here at all.
China reduced it's figure from the report a few days ago. So the total International figure lowered by the same amount.
Estonia was added to the roster.
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Barbie International figures bounced around again.
Expect that to go on for MONTHS.
Ever since Super Mario Bros. dropped so low that it couldn't make a 1% bump in a day, the international numbers have gone up and down as much as 4 times in a week. Just last week sometime it had fallen to 1,356% or so, which would have been low enough to require $1 Million less from SoF to beat it, but I believe it's back up to 1,359% again right now.
Guardians of the Galaxy had several weeks in a row where it lost money for the worldwide total even though it was still pulling in Domestic numbers. Then one week it gained $1 or $2 Million. Hell... the most dramatic I saw was a week where The Boogeyman pulled in $10 Million even though in the US it had only made $1 to $2 Million... something that wouldn't be as noticeable with a movie making hundreds of millions in the theater, but was pretty easy to spot on a $35 Million Budget flick with somewhere in the area of $80 Million in Box Office receipts.
I'll bet this isn't a new phenomena. We just didn't know about it because we weren't paying attention like we are right now.
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Still nonsense is the China numbers - the screens and engagements make no sense here at all.
China reduced it's figure from the report a few days ago. So the total International figure lowered by the same amount.
Yeah... They have a TON of screens. I was only half-joking when I was talking about Sound of Freedom being played on the backs of barns in South Africa, because that's probably what they do in China. I'm sure they have something resembling actual movie theaters that we have here, but there's no way there's like 43,000+ screens in China that are in actual buildings. (I see there are only 27,000+ of them used for Barbie, but I've seen as high as 43k).
Who knows how they show movies out there?
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Estonia was added to the roster.
Not sure what you mean by that. The-Numbers said it opened in Estonia on 07/21.
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This is terrifying and hilarious at the same time.
And it's self aware...? "This is what you guys call music? Well I'll be damned."
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