Uggh... Barbie looks awful (and Oppenheimer is too long)
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A New, Chilling Secret About the Manhattan Project Has Just Been Made Public
Turns out Oppenheimer’s boss lied, repeatedly, about radiation poisoning.
By Fred Kaplan, Aug 08, 2023 3:17 PM
Oppenheimer, director of the Los Alamos lab where the bomb was first tested, kept mum about General Groves’ lie. Groves said radiation had caused no deaths and that claims to the contrary were “propaganda.”
Groves discounted, downplayed, then denied the reports about radiation sickness because the American public would rebel against nuclear weapons if they were seen as something like poison gas—and thus beyond a moral threshold.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/08/oppenheimer-manhattan-proj
ect-radiation-atomic-bomb-declassified.html
The US exploded hundreds of test nukes inside the US, spreading fallout everywhere, because Oppenheimer was too cowardly to confront the Generals' lies when Oppenheimer could have stopped the tests by telling the public what was happening. He would have lost his security clearance, but he lost it anyway for petty reasons and had nothing to show for the loss.
Radioactive fallout was responsible for 340,000 to 690,000 American deaths from 1951 to 1973. Thank you Robert Oppenheimer for your brave refusal to tell anybody. Somebody should make a movie about your tragic struggles with your conscience. (His conscience lost but Oppenheimer became rich and famous, which eased his suffering. In time he killed himself with tobacco, but nicotine made him feel so much better about what he had done to others.)
https://qz.com/1163140/us-nuclear-tests-killed-american-civilians-on-a
-scale-comparable-to-hiroshima-and-nagasaki
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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I don't think you know how nicotine works.
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Quote:I would not know any more than about any of the numerous addictive habits you have, retard 6ix. You and Oppenheimer are the kind of people who won't think ahead about the consequences of your decisions. He ended up dying early with a slew of deaths on his conscience while you threw away decades of life.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I don't think you know how nicotine works.
Oppenheimer's nuclear fallout: How his atomic legacy destroyed my world
Mary Dickson, Aug. 4, 2023
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/voices/2023/08/04/oppenheimer-a
tomic-bomb-legacy-us-victims-nuclear-fallout/70508212007/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:Quote:I would not know any more than about any of the numerous addictive habits you have, retard 6ix.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I don't think you know how nicotine works.
Care to rephrase this, or do we just add English to the pile of things that we've established aren't in your wheelhouse?
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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
'Barbie' and 'Oppenheimer' Clear $1 Billion USD After Only Two Weeks
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/barbie-oppenheimer-clear-1-billion-203
601204.html
The Box Office is so pathetic that they're pushing two non-related movies together to make headlines like this.
Avengers: End Game reached a billion on its own in 5 days.
Avengers: Infinity War: 11 Days.
Spider-Man: No Way Home: 12 Days.
Star Wars: The Force Awakens: 12 Days
Jurassic World: 13 Days
Avatar: The Way of Water 14 Days
More recently, Super Mario Bros took 26 Days.
Barbie will take at least 21 days to hit a Billion
Oppenheimer will never hit 1 Billion.
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I was a day off. It took Barbie 20 days to make a Billion.
https://www.the-numbers.com/news/254780830-Theater-counts-billion-doll
ar-Barbie-remains-widest-release-for-the-third-consecutive-week
Oppenheimer, as I said, will never make a billion. But the $581 Million it's sitting at is still pretty impressive given its $100 Million budget. They can't be unhappy with these results.
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Quote:20 days? You mean from Wed 19 July to Monday 7 August?
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:Quote:I was a day off. It took Barbie 20 days to make a Billion.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:Quote:The Box Office is so pathetic that they're pushing two non-related movies together to make headlines like this.
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
'Barbie' and 'Oppenheimer' Clear $1 Billion USD After Only Two Weeks
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/barbie-oppenheimer-clear-1-billion-203
601204.html
Avengers: End Game reached a billion on its own in 5 days.
Avengers: Infinity War: 11 Days.
Spider-Man: No Way Home: 12 Days.
Star Wars: The Force Awakens: 12 Days
Jurassic World: 13 Days
Avatar: The Way of Water 14 Days
More recently, Super Mario Bros took 26 Days.
Barbie will take at least 21 days to hit a Billion
Oppenheimer will never hit 1 Billion.
https://www.the-numbers.com/news/254780830-Theater-counts-billion-doll
ar-Barbie-remains-widest-release-for-the-third-consecutive-week
I'm glad you noticed Barbie did not make $Billion until Monday.
I found it amusing on Monday watching Warner scrambling to justify their Fake Claim of $1B by Sunday, when they knew they didn't have prove, like the receipts.
On Sunday, when they were making their Fake claims, they had $406,381,413 from before Friday, plus "projections" of 53M for the weekend, with 17M Friday, 20M Saturday, and 16M on Sunday.
Even though they must have known by that time that they were half Million short on Friday night, and likely also knew the same for Saturday night - they still used this 459,381,413 figure as their Domestic Total for Sunday, 6 August.
For several days, they had had $422M -something listed for their International total.
But on Sunday, without any new country report updates (besides Croatia), they suddenly came up with $531,000,000 for international. Yes, that is right, the grand total for all of the other nations outside USA & Canada ended up with 6 zeroes at the end of the figure, with no discernible location of increase.
Nothing fishy here, folks, this is not the hovercraft you are looking for, never mind the man behind the curtain.
This conveniently totaled $1,000,381,413 Worldwide - without any extra Million to spare.
And that was how the figures were listed on Sunday night.
On Monday, the scrambling began. Most weekdays, Barbie's figures are some of the first to be posted, often by 10am my time (Central). Not this Monday.
Because they knew that they were $1M short on their Friday & Saturday projections, they could not post that they only made $52m for the weekend - that would drop them below $1B total.
Sometime before noon they changed their "projections" for the weekend, from 17, 20, and 16 to new projections of 16.5M Fri, 19.5M Sat, and suddenly 17M Sunday. This still added to $53M for the 3 days, so they bought a little time, until they could admit that their Sunday was likely short.
In order to buy some breathing room for their Fake $1B claim, late in the day they were able to add in some International numbers that they did not have receipts for on Sunday. These nations Box Office reports were dated 7 August - NOT 6 AUGUST - but added about $31M to the total (from 3 listed updated nations, just new numbers from less that a week), and thus gave them some breathing room to admit to the less-than projected numbers from the weekend.
They finally admitted (I think after 5 on Monday) to $16,543,731 on Friday, $19,476,666 on Saturday (still short of the reduced estimate of 19.5 - and only 20K above the reduced Fri/Sat combined estimate of $36M), and then $16,988,250 for Sunday (also short of their revised estimate of $17M). For a total of $53,008,647 for the weekend. If that Sunday figure is an honest number, then that gives them the $53M that they needed from the weekend to claim $1B - as long as nobody questions the international figure with 6 zeroes at the end, and no proven rece
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The Audience Is Losing Its Ability To Watch and Reflect on What They See Onscreen
When Oppenheimer meets with military officers and government officials to decide the targets of the bombings, US Secretary of War Henry Stimson (James Remar) mentions that they shouldn't bomb Kyoto, because that's where he and his wife went on their honeymoon. The line creates an intense awkwardness in the room for many reasons, as well as carries a shocking effect on part of the audience. That's symptomatic of many things in our current era of movie-going, so let's dig into it.
The line itself is indeed shocking, and it's supposed to be. Recently, Oppenheimer writer and director Christopher Nolan revealed that it was improvised by James Remar, who did his own research on the character and found out that Stimson and his wife had indeed honeymooned in Kyoto.
Remar’s work as Secretary Stimson shows how important it is to know and understand a character before playing them. Stimson is a small role, with seconds of screen time in a movie that's three hours long, but has one of the most shocking lines in the whole thing.
So shocking, in fact, that the other actors in the scene didn't know how to react. Originally, the script mentioned Kyoto was to be removed from the bombing list for its cultural significance, but Remar delivers the honeymoon line so casually, it left the rest of the cast speechless. How do you respond to something like that? The movie provides an insightful reflection into the nature of power at the dawn of the nuclear age, and Stimson makes it clear that this kind of destructive power is to be wielded by people who seem to have completely lost touch with their humanity. Only that's not just him, it seems like part of the audience did too.
Stimson sparing Kyoto from destruction because of his honeymoon is a perfect example of how this kind of decision is taken by individuals who aren't really the best people to take them. As decorated as he might have been, he narrowed down the cities that would be destroyed because of his own personal memories, and that's no way to ponder the death of hundreds of thousands of people. It takes power to think of this as trivial, and, usually, those who have it are the least fit to wield it.
His perspective is symptomatic of a worldview that puts his own country so above the rest of the world, he's allowed (and maybe even encouraged) to take decisions that can ultimately kill that many people so casually, especially when it comes to the US military and the idea of American exceptionalism. It sure is nice to see someone who loves their country (and yours truly sure loves his, for example), but when one sees oneself that far above, one often loses touch with what it means to kill, for example. Oppenheimer makes it clear that, after Hitler's suicide, Japan's capitulation was a matter of time and the scientists even start to question whether they should continue their research. But they aren't really the people with power; they do have knowledge, but, contrary to popular belief, those two sometimes aren't the same thing. The military has power and sees its country as so above the rest, the world is literally a playground for people like Stimson to take decisions based on personal memories. But how do you weigh someone's life against a show of power?
We don't have to go far to question that and conclude that, ultimately, we have succumbed to this nationalistic way of looking at the world that people like Stimson helped consolidate in favor of the dominant power. All it takes is going to the movies. Hollywood has a long history of struggling with depicting and talking about the nuclear bombings in World War II, it rarely produces movies that openly criticize it like Oppenheimer does. That's why, for example, it's being compared to Stanley Kubrick's Dr. Strangelove, because it's the closest reference most people have. When Hollywood manages to use this as inspiration for tra
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Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:20 days? You mean from Wed 19 July to Monday 7 August?
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:Quote:I was a day off. It took Barbie 20 days to make a Billion.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:Quote:The Box Office is so pathetic that they're pushing two non-related movies together to make headlines like this.
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
'Barbie' and 'Oppenheimer' Clear $1 Billion USD After Only Two Weeks
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/barbie-oppenheimer-clear-1-billion-203
601204.html
Avengers: End Game reached a billion on its own in 5 days.
Avengers: Infinity War: 11 Days.
Spider-Man: No Way Home: 12 Days.
Star Wars: The Force Awakens: 12 Days
Jurassic World: 13 Days
Avatar: The Way of Water 14 Days
More recently, Super Mario Bros took 26 Days.
Barbie will take at least 21 days to hit a Billion
Oppenheimer will never hit 1 Billion.
https://www.the-numbers.com/news/254780830-Theater-counts-billion-doll
ar-Barbie-remains-widest-release-for-the-third-consecutive-week
I'm glad you noticed Barbie did not make $Billion until Monday.
I found it amusing on Monday watching Warner scrambling to justify their Fake Claim of $1B by Sunday, when they knew they didn't have prove, like the receipts.
On Sunday, when they were making their Fake claims, they had $406,381,413 from before Friday, plus "projections" of 53M for the weekend, with 17M Friday, 20M Saturday, and 16M on Sunday.
Even though they must have known by that time that they were half Million short on Friday night, and likely also knew the same for Saturday night - they still used this 459,381,413 figure as their Domestic Total for Sunday, 6 August.
For several days, they had had $422M -something listed for their International total.
But on Sunday, without any new country report updates (besides Croatia), they suddenly came up with $531,000,000 for international. Yes, that is right, the grand total for all of the other nations outside USA & Canada ended up with 6 zeroes at the end of the figure, with no discernible location of increase.
Nothing fishy here, folks, this is not the hovercraft you are looking for, never mind the man behind the curtain.
This conveniently totaled $1,000,381,413 Worldwide - without any extra Million to spare.
And that was how the figures were listed on Sunday night.
On Monday, the scrambling began. Most weekdays, Barbie's figures are some of the first to be posted, often by 10am my time (Central). Not this Monday.
Because they knew that they were $1M short on their Friday & Saturday projections, they could not post that they only made $52m for the weekend - that would drop them below $1B total.
Sometime before noon they changed their "projections" for the weekend, from 17, 20, and 16 to new projections of 16.5M Fri, 19.5M Sat, and suddenly 17M Sunday. This still added to $53M for the 3 days, so they bought a little time, until they could admit that their Sunday was likely short.
In order to buy some breathing room for their Fake $1B claim, late in the day they were able to add in some International numbers that they did not have receipts for on Sunday. These nations Box Office reports were dated 7 August - NOT 6 AUGUST - but added about $31M to the total (from 3 listed updated nations, just new numbers from less that a week), and thus gave them some breathing room to admit to the less-than projected numbers from the weekend.
They finally admitted (I think after 5 on Monday) to $16,543,731 on Friday, $19,476,666 on Saturday (still short of the reduced estimate of 19.5 - and only 20K above the reduced Fri/Sat combined estimate of $36M), and then $16,988,250 for Sunday (also short of their revised estimate of $17M). For a total of $53,008,647 for the weekend. If that Sunday figure is an honest number, then that gives them the $53M that they needed from the weekend to claim $1B - as long as nobody questions the international figNOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
New news on Barbie...
I was watching a recent Film Theory video about Disney in general, but when it brought up the insane production budgets of films today and used Oppenheimer and Barbie as examples with smaller production budgets than most of what Disney has put out this year, they mentioned that Barbie's production budget was just less than $150 Million.
This was news to me since I've been operating under the assumption that Barbie had a $100 Million budget, and that's what The-Numbers has said it was since the beginning.
These sites all disagree with that number and agree with each other that Barbie's Production Budget was $145 Million:
https://collider.com/barbie-movie-box-office-budget/
https://www.entrepreneur.com/growing-a-business/barbie-was-a-marketing
-masterpiece-heres-why/456339
https://www.insider.com/how-much-did-barbie-spend-marketing-box-office
-success-explained-2023-7
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbie_(film)
https://www.gamesradar.com/barbie-marketing-budget-higher-movie-budget/
Not only that, but the studio fully admits to a $150 Million Marketing Budget, that is more than the Production Budget.
When calculating the 2.0x Rule of Thumb, that doubling of the Production Budget is not just for including the Marketing Budget, but the theater takes as well, so Barbie actually had to make at least $350 if not $400 Million to break even using the 2.0x rule of thumb. Not $200 Million.
Now... since the 2.0x and 2.5x rule of thumb are broad generalizations, I feel that even with specific evidence in this case that the movie should be held to a different standard, I'm not going to do that. I'm going to just go on applying the 2.0x Rule of Thumb to Barbie like I would any other movie, but this is another great argument for moving on to the 2.5x rule of thumb instead of using the old 2.0x RoT.
That being said, starting with a $145 Million budget instead of a $100 Million budget does change the percentage number list significantly. I will make the adjustment in the SoF thread where I'm keeping track of all of these numbers and reference this post for the change.
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Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:20 days? You mean from Wed 19 July to Monday 7 August?
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:Quote:I was a day off. It took Barbie 20 days to make a Billion.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:Quote:The Box Office is so pathetic that they're pushing two non-related movies together to make headlines like this.
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
'Barbie' and 'Oppenheimer' Clear $1 Billion USD After Only Two Weeks
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/barbie-oppenheimer-clear-1-billion-203
601204.html
Avengers: End Game reached a billion on its own in 5 days.
Avengers: Infinity War: 11 Days.
Spider-Man: No Way Home: 12 Days.
Star Wars: The Force Awakens: 12 Days
Jurassic World: 13 Days
Avatar: The Way of Water 14 Days
More recently, Super Mario Bros took 26 Days.
Barbie will take at least 21 days to hit a Billion
Oppenheimer will never hit 1 Billion.
https://www.the-numbers.com/news/254780830-Theater-counts-billion-doll
ar-Barbie-remains-widest-release-for-the-third-consecutive-week
I'm glad you noticed Barbie did not make $Billion until Monday.
I found it amusing on Monday watching Warner scrambling to justify their Fake Claim of $1B by Sunday, when they knew they didn't have prove, like the receipts.
On Sunday, when they were making their Fake claims, they had $406,381,413 from before Friday, plus "projections" of 53M for the weekend, with 17M Friday, 20M Saturday, and 16M on Sunday.
Even though they must have known by that time that they were half Million short on Friday night, and likely also knew the same for Saturday night - they still used this 459,381,413 figure as their Domestic Total for Sunday, 6 August.
For several days, they had had $422M -something listed for their International total.
But on Sunday, without any new country report updates (besides Croatia), they suddenly came up with $531,000,000 for international. Yes, that is right, the grand total for all of the other nations outside USA & Canada ended up with 6 zeroes at the end of the figure, with no discernible location of increase.
Nothing fishy here, folks, this is not the hovercraft you are looking for, never mind the man behind the curtain.
This conveniently totaled $1,000,381,413 Worldwide - without any extra Million to spare.
And that was how the figures were listed on Sunday night.
On Monday, the scrambling began. Most weekdays, Barbie's figures are some of the first to be posted, often by 10am my time (Central). Not this Monday.
Because they knew that they were $1M short on their Friday & Saturday projections, they could not post that they only made $52m for the weekend - that would drop them below $1B total.
Sometime before noon they changed their "projections" for the weekend, from 17, 20, and 16 to new projections of 16.5M Fri, 19.5M Sat, and suddenly 17M Sunday. This still added to $53M for the 3 days, so they bought a little time, until they could admit that their Sunday was likely short.
In order to buy some breathing room for their Fake $1B claim, late in the day they were able to add in some International numbers that they did not have receipts for on Sunday. These nations Box Office reports were dated 7 August - NOT 6 AUGUST - but added about $31M to the total (from 3 listed updated nations, just new numbers from less that a week), and thus gave them some breathing room to admit to the less-than projected numbers from the weekend.
They finally admitted (I think after 5 on Monday) to $16,543,731 on Friday, $19,476,666 on Saturday (still short of the reduced estimate of 19.5 - and only 20K above the reduced Fri/Sat combined estimate of $36M), and then $16,988,250 for Sunday (also short of their revised estimate of $17M). For a total of $53,008,647 for the weekend. If that Sunday figure is an honest number, then that gives them the $53M that they needed from the weekend to claim $1B - asNOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME