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Saturday, July 22, 2023 5:10 PM

Futurist movement, exploration of new science and advancement ... 'Cold Fusion', future tech Thorium and Future printed Genetic Nano AI Tech other Nuclear Breakthroughs?

This will be a futurist thread, different to the AI fears in the other threads

Futurism or False Prophets?

A thread looking at Nuclear, a chat on the technological advancements and scientific breakthroughs, maybe to hypothesize the possible, a future chance, a probable, a next day scenario or preferable, or alternative future, this is not really a prediction thread but a discussion on ideas that will shape the future also Nano-Tech, 3-D Printing or AI Chatbots starting to look like people, general production with Robotics, advances in Genetics etc

'Cold Fusion' the Taboo Clean Energy Topic - Nuclear Fusion is now possible?

While we move forward we also enter an era of regression politics, at one time it was the Conservative Right banning stem cell funding now its also the Left. Anything with the word 'Nuclear' becomes trouble, Germany has started shutting down its last reactor power plants, it has asked its people to share hot water and will instead pollute its own air with coal to provide power.

We have lots of topics on Coal, Solar Panels, Traditional Nuclear Energy Fission Power nd the Bombs they make, Pollution, CO2, Oil etc

Very few topics on the hopeful potential of other Nuclear power for example 'Thorium' as an alternative or the possibility of Cold Fusion or Fusion Nuclear Power as seen in scifi movies.

It was a very fringe scifi idea but it becomes more real with each year and every passing month


da Vinci Surgical System: Surgery on a grape




Nuclear fusion: hope for a clean future?
https://www.power-technology.com/features/nuclear-fusion-hope-for-a-cl
ean-future
/

Cold fusion is making a scientific comeback
https://www.popsci.com/science/cold-fusion-low-energy-nuclear-reaction/

Nuclear fusion: The one relationship Russia and the West just can’t break
https://www.politico.eu/article/the-one-relationship-russia-and-eu-jus
t-cant-break-iter-fusion-ukraine-war
/

China completes first step in advanced nuclear reactor project by finishing core module
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3227777/china-complete
s-first-step-advanced-nuclear-reactor-project-finishing-core-module


MIT Professor Explains Nuclear Fusion in 5 Levels of Difficulty
https://news.yahoo.com/mit-professor-explains-nuclear-fusion-160000033
.html

Nuclear fusion underpins some of the most basic processes in our universe and holds promise

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Saturday, July 22, 2023 5:14 PM


Over 6 months ago

Nuclear scientist Marv Adams explains what happened in the successful fusion experiment



a crazy Tomonews report

Last Year



Nuclear Fusion Breakthrough: China’s Tokamak Fusion Reactor Sets Major Record

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Sunday, July 23, 2023 6:26 AM

Deuterium Powered Homes And The Return Of Cold Fusion Hype

https://hackaday.com/2015/10/05/deuterium-powered-homes-and-the-return
-of-cold-fusion-hype
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Thursday, July 27, 2023 2:11 AM

Germany going back to Coal and Windmills

In doomed coal village, Germany’s Greens go to war among themselves
https://www.politico.eu/article/lutzerath-germany-coal-climate-change-
greens-war-among-themselves
/

German industry changes tack as river Rhine runs drier
https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/german-industry-changes-tack-ri
ver-rhine-runs-drier-2023-07-26
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Monday, August 7, 2023 3:35 PM

Nuclear fusion milestone achieved in huge boost for near-limitless clean energy
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/nuclear-fusion-milestone-achieved-huge-
093324304.html


Quote:

nuclear fusion process has been described as the “holy grail” of clean energy




'Oppenheimer' Does Something All Too Rare in Hollywood: It Trusts Its Audience

https://www.clevescene.com/movies-tv/oppenheimer-does-something-all-to
o-rare-in-hollywood-it-trusts-its-audience-42402079




A hybrid fission/fusion reactor could be the best way to get through the ice on Europa

https://phys.org/news/2023-01-hybrid-fissionfusion-reactor-ice-europa.
html


This new method creates an energetic environment inside the lattice where individual atoms achieve equivalent fusion-level kinetic energies. This is accomplished by packing the lattices with deuterium at densities one billion times greater than in tokamak reactors, where a neutron source accelerates deuterium atoms (deuterons) to the point that they collide with neighboring deuterons, causing fusion reactions. For their experiments, Dr. Benyo and her colleagues exposed deuterons to a 2.9+MeV energetic X-ray beam, creating energetic neutrons and protons.

This process could allow for fast-fission reactions using lattices built from metals like depleted uranium, thorium, or erbium (Er68) in a molten lithium matrix. The team also observed the production of more energetic neutrons, indicating that boosted fusion reactions—aka. screened Oppenheimer-Phillips (O-P) nuclear stripping reactions—also occur in the process. According to Dr. Benyo, either fusion process is scalable and could be a pathway to a new type of nuclear-powered spacecraft:

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Monday, August 7, 2023 7:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Nuclear fusion milestone achieved in huge boost for near-limitless clean energy
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/nuclear-fusion-milestone-achieved-huge-
093324304.html


From the same story: Several companies are already investing heavily in nuclear fusion, with Microsoft making the world’s first purchase agreement earlier this year.

The US tech giant made the deal with Helion Energy, which aims to set up a nuclear fusion power plant within the next five years despite the challenges remaining to make it commercially viable.

Helion chief executive David Kirtley said at the time: “We still have a lot of work to do, but we are confident in our ability to deliver the world’s first fusion power facility.”

In my opinion, this is bullshit until Helion Energy sells a few million dollars worth of electricity without blowing up their not-yet-even designed, let alone built, power plant. At the moment, Helion Energy is all hype and has no power plant. It is probably more likely somebody will be selling in five years an anti-gravity spaceship that gently floats to Mars without using rockets spewing flames.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, August 8, 2023 4:43 PM

ITER component removed for repairs
https://www.world-nuclear-news.org/Articles/ITER-component-removed-for
-repairs


"Researchers at the federal Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in California, who achieved ignition for the first time last year, repeated the breakthrough in an experiment on July 30 that produced a higher energy output than in December"
https://twitter.com/is_fusion/status/1688386764384432128

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Friday, August 11, 2023 5:43 PM

Stuck in the past?






Maybe they could have access to energy like new Dams, Tidal and Hydro but Some idiots insist Solar Pannels and Buying Oil from Russia

'Sweden criticised over plan to build at least 10 new nuclear reactors'

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/aug/10/sweden-criticised-over-p
lan-to-build-at-least-10-new-nuclear-reactors

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Tuesday, August 22, 2023 3:52 AM

Absolutely wild that Germany combined getting rid of its cheapest and most reliable clean electricity with making new homes electrically-heated.

Germany's growing solar fleet makes little energy in winter. Wind is better but you have to get lucky.

Pain coming.

And burning wood

https://twitter.com/energybants/status/1688176422861381633

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Tuesday, August 22, 2023 7:13 AM

I share SECOND'S scepticism on fusion (cold or otherwise). The only reason why fusion happens in our sun is bc immense gravitational forces jam hydrogen molecules together so tightly it overcomes the nuclei's natural repulsion.

Generating those kinds of forces takes a lot of energy. Until recently it took more energy than it released, which is why even a little positive energy release is such a milestone.

Same with solar panels: taking sand and melting it to make pure quartz uses up so much energy, the panels only became net positive ten or so years ago.

Wind? Not reliable.
Tidal force? Interrupts the natural cleansing process that keeps bays and estuaries from becoming septic.
Hydro power? Reduces fish spawning which kills whole riversful of salmon, over time.

There are no easy answers to our voracious appetite and need for power. Not wasting it is a good start.

PS: At one time I looked into the radioisotopes generated from the different isotopes of uranium and thorium, and at one point I found a decay chain that was relatively benign. I also looked up thorium reactors: in principle it sounds simple but in practice it requires the development of a material that can resist molten sodium and still pass neutrons, IIRC. Anyway, most of the DOE's focus on nuclear energy was recovering plutonium for bomb-making.


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