***** Sound of Freedom
POSTED BY: JEWELSTAITEFAN
UPDATED: Tuesday, January 23, 2024 03:13
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Quote:Are you unaware of Hollywood accounting?
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
It's a good thing you're not an accountant, because you have no idea how to balance books or what actually makes something profitable.
Producers have every reason to overstate the cost of making a movie. 6ix, the numbers you are using for cost are fake.
Hollywood accounting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollywood_accounting
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:The film producers struggled for 5 years to get ANY release at all. Now they are scrambling to catch up to demand.
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Not too many weeks ago
Only a USA release allowed
not sure if marketing distribution or it shows how F * cked up the rest of the world is
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl4254237441/
https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Sound-of-Freedom-(2023)#tab=summary
I read not long ago it might get a Spanish and Australian release
but JEWELSTAITEFAN posted dates for
Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Belize, Panama, Colombia, Venezuela, Argentina, Uruguay, Paraguay, Bolivia, Chile, Peru, Ecuador, Costa Rica, UK, Ireland, Spain.
Some English speaking venues just need legal pathways, some Spanih speaking venues just need dubbing, with most of the cast already Spanish speakers. Countries with other languages likely need more time.
Angel Studios is working on it. They also state that more release dates are rolling out every week.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Are you unaware of Hollywood accounting?
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
It's a good thing you're not an accountant, because you have no idea how to balance books or what actually makes something profitable.
Producers have every reason to overstate the cost of making a movie. 6ix, the numbers you are using for cost are fake.
Hollywood accounting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollywood_accounting
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
You're not helping your argument here.
And you're certainly not helping Disney, who's stock is currently sitting at $86.83, when it was at a peak of $197.16 on March 12, 2021.
Your argument in defense of Disney after their stock started plummeting before Lightyear come out was that Disney matches pace with the S&P 500.
On March 12, 2021, the S&P 50 was sitting at $3,943.34. Today it is $4,518.44. Disney stock is now worth 44.04% of what it was at its peak 2.5 years ago, and meanwhile the S&P 500 has increased in value 14.58%.
That's quite bad news for Disney if they've been cooking the books and the best they can do is lose 56% of their stocks value after using creative accounting to lose a billion dollars on their movies in the box office and another 3 billion dollars in 2023 on their streaming service.
It doesn't seem to make much sense to do that to avoid some taxes and avoid paying royalties. Especially when you've spent the last 10 years destroying your brand.
You never win any of these arguments because you can never keep your arguments straight. You have zero memory, and I remember every contradictory argument you've ever made.
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Quote:This linky also reports that RT has a 99% rating among audience members. Updated as of 31 July.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
If this linky works
newsweek.com/sound-freedom-movie-begins-global-rollout-astonishing-domestic-success-1815650
https://www.newsweek.com/sound-freedom-movie-begins-global-rollout-ast
onishing-domestic-success-1815650
It reports SoF budget was $14.5M - however this is certainly a Fake News site, and perhaps their Maths are prejudiced.
The article also reports International release dates.
18 Aug
South Africa
24 Aug
Australia, New Zealand
31 Aug
Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Belize, Panama, Colombia, Venezuela, Argentina, Uruguay, Paraguay, Bolivia, Chile, Peru, Ecuador, Costa Rica
1 Sep
UK, Ireland
11 Oct
Spain
Other than Brazil, France, Italy, Germany, China, the biggest markets seem to be covered. Some of those likely need greater translation or dubbing, since most of the cast already spoke Spanish.
I can assume that a 100% score would be impossible from a group such as "audience."
But how common is it to have 99% score? I don''t pay enough attention to that system. And I don't have access to "updated" scores, only what the initial release ratings are.
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Quote:let's see...
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I think the green numbers at The Numbers is prelim or estimated figures, and black are the real figures.
They just turned black for the weekend.
Sunday SoF jumped up to highest take per screen, beating Indy5 and Red Door. It was estimated behind Red Door.
Also, every single day since release, SoF has more $ per screen that Indy5.
Even when it added more than 13% more theaters for the weekend.
For the days when working folk are not working...
Date | DBO Rnk /Scrn Rnk
04Jul 14.24 1 $5,407 1
08Jul 7.176 3 $2,431 2
09Jul 7.295 3 $2,471 1
15Jul 10.22 2 $3,132 2
16Jul 9.563 2 $2,929 2
22Jul 7,434 4 $2,263 3
23Jul 6,684 3 $2,035 3
29Jul 4.813 4 $1,411 4
30Jul 4.233 4 $1,241 4
5 Aug 2.870 6 $ 0965 7
6 Aug 2.487 6 $ 0836 6
other days...
05Jul 4.047 2 $1,537 1
06Jul 3.697 3 $1,404 2
07Jul 5.208 3 $1,764 2
10Jul 4.000 1 $1,355 1
11Jul 3.829 1 $1,297 1
12Jul 4.424 2 $1,499 2
13Jul 4.576 2 $1,550 2
14Jul 7.491 2 $2,294 2
17Jul 4.954 2 $1,518 1
18Jul 5.449 2 $1,669 2
19Jul 4.722 2 $1,446 1
20Jul 3.702 1 $1,134 1
21Jul 5.706 3 $1,737 3
24Jul 3.168 3 $ 0965 3
25Jul 3.391 3 $1,032 3
26Jul 3.001 3 $ 0914 3
27Jul 2.568 3 $ 0782 3
28Jul 3.766 5 $1,104 5
31Jul 2.001 4 $ 0587 4
1 Aug 2.061 4 $ 0604 4
2 Aug 1.561 5 $ 0458 6
3 Aug 1.440 5 $ 0442 7
4 Aug 2.212 6 $ 0744 6
Quote:Quote:Woke Math, Fake Math, Libtard maths do not reflet reality. Only REAL MATH reflects reality.Quote:My suspicion failed. WokeSayGay Mansion dropped to $492 per theater, in it's 6th day of release. But SoF dropped more than I expected, to $458 per screen.
]I suspect Mansion won't have higher $ Per theater than SoF for Wednesday.
I do still feel confident that Mansion will fall below SoF for Sat and Sun.
Sof earned 11% of it's Production Budget. Barbie earned almost 13% from Domestic BO, likely 27% Worldwide.
SoF earned 150% of it's Budget in the past 7 days, Barbie did $157M Domestic in the last 7 days, which would be 157% of Budget, and likely 320% Worldwide.
Today marks the 31st day in release, and it will likely be ranked 4th or 5th. Others have done this, but not really while up against Barbenhiemer.
I do wonder how well SoF will fare in Mexico and Spain - Hispanics seem to be going in droves (anecdotally inferred, I have not seen this directly)
Regarding International figures at The Numbers, I keep seeing the heaviest markets with reporting dates within a day or 2. I have not kept track of the actual figures reported from day to day, but if the reporting dates really are each day, then the fluctuation should not be all that much. Maybe Bruce Wokenash just uses Woke Math - like Fake Math, aka Lib Math.
WokeSayGay mansion is from Disney. I had liked the cast, but won't see it pollute my mind from Pedophiles of Disney. I thought about feeling bad about their plight, but far worse was already done with Wind River, which was fully completed and ready for distribution before the Dist rights were aquired by Weinstein, and then the next year it was blacklisted because of the association with him. Best film of the year.
Yesterday SoF only gained 10% of it's budget - the lowest take in it's entire release. The past 7 days it has only made almost $20M (about 140%), it's lowest span, and also what it was expected to make in it's first 6 days of release. This is on it's 31st day of release.
Talk To Me figures came out today instead of yesterday, so I had to change the numbers on my listing.
Barbie made $11.8M (11.8%) Domestic, so about 25% Worldwide for the day. And almost $148M Domestic in the past 7 days (148%), so about 306% Worldwide.
SoF is now 6th place on the All-time list for Real Stories genre, with no others newer than 5 years higher. And, really, Pearl Harbor? Fake love story with Baffleck? Being set in a historical setting is not really qualified as Real Story - note thNOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
The past weekend had a market-wide drop of 11% in Box Office, and this wiped out my predictions.
But I have still been noticing trends, and I'll make a table to help show this.
I fully expect most folk will not have interest in this, but I think it is curious. Not only because Sound of Freedom is such a wonderful film, but also because it is breaking the mold, much like Maverick did last year.
Barbie has been benefitting from strong summer weekday sales, which SMB did not have. (SMB is a Seth Rogan film?) SoF has had strong Saturday and Sunday figures, the days when honest working folk are not working.
Over the weekend, Barbie made 53.0% of it's Production Budget. Sound of Freedom made 54.0% of it's Production Budget.
I m using $14M as the Production Budget figure for Sof, and $100M for Barbie. Barbie's international balances may bounce around, but this table is using the stated observation of 47.5% Domestic and 52.5% International.
All figures not tagged with % are Millions of Dollars.
For Barbie figures, the same figures are both $Millions, but also % of Production Budget.
1st column is Date.
2nd column is SoF Single Day BO.
3rd column is Single Day BO % of Budget.
4th and 5th are Total Cummulative Box Office, and then % of Budget.
6th and 7th are Last 7 Days of Box Office, and then % of Budget. All for Sound of Freedom.
8th column is Barbie single Day Domestic Box Office.
9th column is the % of Budget gain on SoF % for the same day.
10th column is the Total of Barbie's Domestic Box Office.
11th column is the total of the Last 7 Days of Barbie's Domestic Box Office.
12th is the % gain on SoF for the same Last 7 Day period.
13th column - 18th columns are the same things, but for Worldwide Box Office.
0000________Sound of Freedom_______ | _______________Barbie_______________________
000/00000 Domestic Box Office 00000\ / Domestic Box Office 0 Worldwide Box Office \
00000000 1 Day Acuml Total Last L 7D 0000 Gain 0000Lst7 Gain0000 Gain00000Lst7 Gain
00001Day %Budg Total %Budg 7Day %Bdg 1Day onSoF Ttl Day SoF 1Day onSoF Ttl Day SoF
27J 2.57 18.4% 136.5 0975% 31.9 228% 21.2 +2.8% 258 236 +8% 44.5 26.1% 542 496 268%
28J 3.77 26.9% 140.3 1002% 30.0 214% 29.0 +2.1% 287 239 25% 60.9 34.0% 603 502 288%
29J 4.81 34.4% 145.1 1036% 27.4 196% 34.5 +0.1% 322 204 +8% 72.5 38.1% 676 428 232%
30J 4.23 30.2% 149.3 1066% 24.9 178% 29.4 -0.8% 351 189 11% 61.7 31.5% 737 397 219%
31J 2.00 14.3% 151.3 1081% 23.7 169% 15.0 +0.7% 366 178 +9% 31.5 17.2% 769 374 205%
1 A 2.06 14.7% 153.4 1096% 22.4 160% 15.3 +0.6% 381 167 +7% 32.1 17.4% 800 351 191%
2 A 1.56 11.1% 155.0 1107% 21.0 150% 12.8 +1.7% 394 157 +7% 26.9 15.8% 827 330 180%
3 A 1.44 10.3% 156.4 1117% 19.9 142% 11.8 +1.5% 406 148 +6% 24.8 14.5% 853 311 169% 185
4 A 2.21 15.8% 158.6 1133% 18.3 131% 16.5 +0.7% 423 135 +4% 34.7 18.9% 888 284 153% 218
5 A 2.87 20.5% 161.5 1154% 16.4 117% 19.5 -1.0% 442 120 +3% 40.9 20.4% 928 252 135% 176
6 A 2.48 17.7% 164.0 1171% 14.6 104% 17.0 -0.7% 459 108 +4% 35.7 18.0% 964 227 123% 170
7 A 1.08 07.7% 165.1 1179% 13.7 098% 09.1 +1.4% 468 102 +4% 19.1 11.4% 983 214 116% 160
July 30 was the first day that Barbie made less Domestic BO % of Budget than SoF did.
Then again on 5 and 6 August.
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Without knowing this, 6ix indicated SoF would not get higher than $7M.
I didn't say it couldn't get higher. $6M to $7M was my expected range, but I made no hard statements about it. Price is Right rules and I beat everyone. I did say that it wasn't going to make the $9 Bruce predicted and certainly not the $10M on your high end.
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Monday's numbers:
1. M3GAN - 1,475% [FINAL]
2. Super Mario Bros - 1,355% (-2%)
3. Sound of Freedom - 1,179% (+8%)
4. Insidious: The Red Door - 1,144% (+6%)
5. Barbie - 1,043% (+10)
SoF needs 177% to beat SMB.
SoF needs 297% to beat M3GAN.
SoF is 136% above Barbie.
Sound of Freedom down to only $1 Million and change today. It did manage to beat MI7 by $16k, and is less than $200k behind Haunted Mansion already.
Barbie still somehow is managing $9 Million on a Monday. Unbelievable. It's got a 44%/56% Domestic/International split after the weekend, so probably got another 10% internationally so far.
It appears that international weirdness has struck once again and Bruce is now reporting $2M less for Super Mario Bros than was being reported on Sunday. I noticed this yesterday and changed the percentage in the list but didn't make mention of it since I don't want to make the weekly 4 list posts even more bloated than they already are.
I'm coming out and saying it right now that unless something strange like an outside entity making a resurgence of interest in SoF were to happen, or a renewed interest in the flick once international audiences start to see it, there's no way it's beating M3GAN for 1st place on the Worldwide Box Office vs Production Budget without good help from international numbers when and if they get released outside of the US.
It's still going to need just shy of $24 Million to beat SMB, or just slightly over $24 Million if that $2M gets added back to SMB internationally in the coming weeks. It's going to need just shy of $42 Million to beat M3GAN.
$24 Million Domestic is now looking iffy. $42 Million is basically impossible.
In List-Making news:
I still couldn't add any movies to the lists of actual money gained/lost on completed films for last week because some long-time movies are still stubbornly holding on to theater counts. Guardians 3 is still in 33 theaters and has grossed $25,402 since Friday. The Little Mermaid is still in 90 theaters and has grossed $61,262 since Friday. Super Mario Bros added 56 theaters back for a total of 152 theaters and has grossed $35,115 since Friday. The Flash is in 26 theaters and has grossed $68,653 since Friday.
Just pull them out already. In total, including all weekend, the 4 movies haven't even pulled in $171k.
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
2023 LIKELY EVENTUAL WINNERS:
1. Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning Pt1 - $491M in total vs $580M needed.
2. Meg 2: The Trench - $142M in total vs $258M needed.
3. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Mutant Mayhem - $52M in total vs $140M needed.
Oh...
And fuck TMNT: Mutant Mayhem and their April O'Neil race swap. It appears they made her ugly too.
I didn't know that the April race swap was a thing, and only now am I finding out that it's "Seth Rogan's Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Mutant Mayhem".
*gag*
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Angel Studios won't say how much of the film's $164 million domestic take comes from donated tickets or those bought directly by a moviegoer.
August 8, 2023 11:06am
The film’s blockbuster performance has no doubt been boosted by Angel’s mastermind plan to change the way movies are distributed through its innovative “Pay It Forward” model, whereby people are urged to buy and then donate Sound of Freedom tickets for others to use. Those “others” can grab a code off the Pay It Forward website and then redeem it using major online ticketing services or an individual theater.
But how money is used from unredeemed tickets is at the company’s discretion, according to this standard disclaimer on the website: “Upon submitting my Pay It Forward contribution, I acknowledge and agree that Angel Studios will make reasonable efforts to use Pay It Forward ticket sales for the audience growth of the intended film or series. However, Angel Studios becomes the owner of all funds upon receipt and may use them at its sole discretion to further the Angel Studios’ mission of amplifying light through impactful stories.”
Right-leaning audiences dismiss criticisms of the movie from the left and mainstream press as the thoughts of “pedophiles, satanists and other malicious parties,” while left-leaning audiences found the movie’s messaging tactics to be aligned with “QAnon, racism, white supremacy, Christo-fascist, anti-Semitic and an overall deceitful work.”
More at https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/sound-of-freedom-a
ngel-studios-pay-it-forward-1235550898/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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