***** Sound of Freedom
POSTED BY: JEWELSTAITEFAN
UPDATED: Tuesday, January 23, 2024 03:13
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Not sure of the direct connection, if any.
But Sound of Freedom could not find a Distributor until after Jeffrey Epstein died in August 2019. How to deal with Pedo Island?
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Updating:
Quote:let's see...
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I think the green numbers at The Numbers is prelim or estimated figures, and black are the real figures.
They just turned black for the weekend.
Sunday SoF jumped up to highest take per screen, beating Indy5 and Red Door. It was estimated behind Red Door.
Also, every single day since release, SoF has more $ per screen that Indy5.
Even when it added more than 13% more theaters for the weekend.
For the days when working folk are not working...
Date | DBO Rnk /Scrn Rnk
04Jul 14.24 1 $5,407 1
08Jul 7.176 3 $2,431 2
09Jul 7.295 3 $2,471 1
15Jul 10.22 2 $3,132 2
16Jul 9.563 2 $2,929 2
22Jul 7,434 4 $2,263 3
23Jul 6,684 3 $2,035 3
29Jul 4.813 4 $1,411 4
30Jul 4.233 4 $1,241 4
other days...
05Jul 4.047 2 $1,537 1
06Jul 3.697 3 $1,404 2
07Jul 5.208 3 $1,764 2
10Jul 4.000 1 $1,355 1
11Jul 3.829 1 $1,297 1
12Jul 4.424 2 $1,499 2
13Jul 4.576 2 $1,550 2
14Jul 7.491 2 $2,294 2
17Jul 4.954 2 $1,518 1
18Jul 5.449 2 $1,669 2
19Jul 4.722 2 $1,446 1
20Jul 3.702 1 $1,134 1
21Jul 5.706 3 $1,737 3
24Jul 3.168 3 $ 0965 3
25Jul 3.391 3 $1,032 3
26Jul 3.001 3 $ 0914 3
27Jul 2.568 3 $ 0782 3
28Jul 3.766 5 $1,104 5
31Jul 2.001 4 $ 0587 4
1 Aug 2.061 4 $ 0604 4
Quote:DR is $11.2M behind SoF in Domestic BO, and falling.
Will DR Domestic BO ever catch up to SoF?
Tuesday TMNT took a bite out of some Box Office takes.
Are Mutant Ninjas gay?
SoF dropped 39% from the prior Tuesday, which is the lowest percentage of any film except WokeSayGay Camp.
I suspect Mansion won't have higher $ Per theater than SoF for Wednesday.
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Quote:No. I was imprecise.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:Quote:That is correct. And yes... It's slowest week.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Black numbers are $3,766,483 - again, it was underestimated.
I think SoF gained 178% in the past 7 days, it's slowest week.Quote:Right now I can tell you that Domestically Barbie made $162,022,044 on weekend one and $93,011,602 on weekend 2 for a 43% drop. And I can also tell you that Barbie roughly made $194 Million internationally on weekend one and $232 Million more during Monday through Sunday this week. But I can't tell you how much it made internationally just over the 2nd weekend.
I expect Barbie to get $110-120M from today to next Sunday, getting up to about 1,000%.
The following 7 days only about $70-80M, for another 170%.
All that being said. I think your prediction for the 7 days are sound. My guess is $116.2 Million from Monday night to Sunday night, and just a shade under $70 Million for the following 7 days. That would be a US total of around $537 Million after August 13th's numbers are finalized.Quote:You've got to keep in mind that it's already released worldwide and 55% of the money it's made so far was overseas. Barbie started out with 356% worldwide on opening weekend, beating SoF by 56% due to this fact, and by weekend 2 it made another 418% even though it lost 43% in the Domestic Box Office on weekend 2.
Not sure if Barbie will catch up to SoF. Barbie will drop below the 100% per week faster than SoF will, I expect.
I meant "sooner" instead of "faster".
I was saying that on the first calendar day that Barbie drops below 100% worldwide for the prior 7 days, Sound of Freedom will not have dropped that far yet.
Updating, Barbie is still gaining about 15% per day on SoF, including International, but it has 290% of catching up to do (extrapolation = 19 days), and I don't think Barbie will maintain that pace for long.
Sorry if I was unclear. I wanted to clarify before it became muddled or moot.
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Because it had no international help, by weekend 2 SoF had only made 614% of its budget compared to Barbie's 774%.
PER SUNDAY NUMBERS FOR SOF SO FAR:
Weekend 1: 300% (only Tue-Sun)
Weekend 2: 315%
Weekend 3: 270%
Weekend 4: 179% (These numbers don't exactly match up right with what I've posted elsewhere because I've been rounding up and down to the Million when doing the percentages, but they're close enough, since they still do add up to 1,064).
TOTAL SOF AFTER WEEKEND 4: 1,064%
PER SUNDAY NUMBERS FOR BARBIE SO FAR:
Weekend 1: 356% (only Thurs-Sun)
Weekend 2: 418%
Weekend 3: ? 244% (Assuming our guesses above +110% more overseas or roughly $240 M)
Weekend 4: ? 147% (Assuming our guesses above +110% more overseas or roughly $147 M)
TOTAL (THEORETICAL) FOR BARBIE AFTER WEEKEND 4: 1,165%
So... Barring real staying power either here or internationally, you're probably right that Barbie will fall below 100% per week before SoF did, but since SoF came out 2 weeks earlier that loss of percentage for Barbie is going to be 2 weeks delayed from the loss of SoF's percentage and it will still be doing quite a bit of catching up in that time, and that likely will persist unless SoF does decent numbers internationally and/or Barbie flatlines at some point.
Without doing any real math and PURELY speculating here, in two weeks the top five might look something like this:
1. M3GAN 1,475%
2. SMB 1,355%
3. SoF 1,294%
4. Insidious 1,178%
5. Barbie 1,165%
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Also, the next film from Angel Studios - next year - looks like one I want to see.
I had not realized that the evil guy in the film, "The Scorpion" was played by Gerardo Taracena, who was the lead role in Apocalypto from 2006.
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Tuesday TMNT took a bite out of some Box Office takes.
Are Mutant Ninjas gay?
I sure hope not, or I've got just one more reason to root for AI taking all their jobs.
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
No. I was imprecise.
I meant "sooner" instead of "faster".
I was saying that on the first calendar day that Barbie drops below 100% worldwide for the prior 7 days, Sound of Freedom will not have dropped that far yet.
Gotcha.
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Updating, Barbie is still gaining about 15% per day on SoF, including International, but it has 290% of catching up to do (extrapolation = 19 days), and I don't think Barbie will maintain that pace for long.
Sorry if I was unclear. I wanted to clarify before it became muddled or moot.
Yeah. Barbie and SoF have both made more or less 15% gains the last two days and have been right at around 290% apart since Sunday night (Just a little jenky on those numbers because I'm rounding up or down to the nearest million for all the figures). But as I mentioned that isn't including international. That's a hard thing to calculate since we don't get daily updates, or really even reliable weekly updates on the international figures. So there's no real point in looking at that on a daily basis since, although still not perfect, you're going to get a much more accurate picture there when looking at the weekly percentage difference after Sunday.
So if we were only counting Domestic takes for both movies, Barbie has already fallen even with SoF.
But if you look at US/International take on Barbie so far, it's a 47.5/52.5 split. So my guess is that Barbie is actually making in the realm of 30-34% per day right now in reality compared to SoF's 15%.
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Even though all the official numbers aren't in yet, I'm just going to do the daily update now since I'll probably be busy later tonight.
Barbie is projected at making $12.8M domestic Wednesday night.
SoF got an official figure of only $1,561,130.
Super Mario Bros doesn't matter since it will only have made around $5k and would be nowhere near rising another percentage point after finally making it to 1,356 last night.
Insidious: The Red Door is projected at making $300k last night. Any difference with the final tally won't matter for our purposes here.
1. M3GAN - 1,475%
2. Super Mario Bros - 1,356%
3. Sound of Freedom - 1,107% (+14%)
4. Insidious: The Red Door - 1,100% (+6%)
5. Barbie - 817% (+14%)
Sound of Freedom finally overtakes Insidious on the Worldwide Box Office vs. Production Budget list for 3rd place in 2023 on 08/02. Insidious' run is all but dead, and even with international numbers added over the weekend it will not rise above SoF ever again at this point.
SoF needs 250% to beat SMB.
SoF needs 369% to beat M3GAN.
SoF remains 290% above Barbie.
... But in actuality, Barbie has almost certainly made another 45% to 57% from International figures that aren't yet updated, putting Barbie somewhere around 868% and only 239% behind SoF.
With its first day at sub-$2M, I am having really strong doubts that Sound of Freedom can beat M3GAN or stave off Barbie with the US Box Office alone. It likely won't even beat Super Mario Bros at this rate without good international numbers. Even at 3rd or 4th place that would still be a great finish for the year for a $14M non-Horror indie that everyone was trying to bury for years.
If SoF does reasonably well internationally when (and if) it finally shows up in Australia, Mexico, Spain and the UK, it could still take 1st place for the year. But by then the US buzz around it will almost certainly be non-existent and it would require a somewhat similar buzz to originate out of those countries at the time of release. For all we know they're only getting like 50 theaters showing it each by that time.
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Quote:let's see...
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I think the green numbers at The Numbers is prelim or estimated figures, and black are the real figures.
They just turned black for the weekend.
Sunday SoF jumped up to highest take per screen, beating Indy5 and Red Door. It was estimated behind Red Door.
Also, every single day since release, SoF has more $ per screen that Indy5.
Even when it added more than 13% more theaters for the weekend.
For the days when working folk are not working...
Date | DBO Rnk /Scrn Rnk
04Jul 14.24 1 $5,407 1
08Jul 7.176 3 $2,431 2
09Jul 7.295 3 $2,471 1
15Jul 10.22 2 $3,132 2
16Jul 9.563 2 $2,929 2
22Jul 7,434 4 $2,263 3
23Jul 6,684 3 $2,035 3
29Jul 4.813 4 $1,411 4
30Jul 4.233 4 $1,241 4
other days...
05Jul 4.047 2 $1,537 1
06Jul 3.697 3 $1,404 2
07Jul 5.208 3 $1,764 2
10Jul 4.000 1 $1,355 1
11Jul 3.829 1 $1,297 1
12Jul 4.424 2 $1,499 2
13Jul 4.576 2 $1,550 2
14Jul 7.491 2 $2,294 2
17Jul 4.954 2 $1,518 1
18Jul 5.449 2 $1,669 2
19Jul 4.722 2 $1,446 1
20Jul 3.702 1 $1,134 1
21Jul 5.706 3 $1,737 3
24Jul 3.168 3 $ 0965 3
25Jul 3.391 3 $1,032 3
26Jul 3.001 3 $ 0914 3
27Jul 2.568 3 $ 0782 3
28Jul 3.766 5 $1,104 5
31Jul 2.001 4 $ 0587 4
1 Aug 2.061 4 $ 0604 4
2 Aug 1.561 5 $ 0458 5
Quote:DR is $11.6M behind SoF in Domestic BO, and falling.
Will DR Domestic BO ever catch up to SoF?
Wednesday TMNT took a bite out of some Box Office takes.
I suspect Mansion won't have higher $ Per theater than SoF for Wednesday.
My suspicion failed. WokeSayGay Mansion dropped to $492 per theater, in it's 6th day of release. But SoF dropped more than I expected, to $458 per screen.
I do still feel confident that Mansion will fall below SoF for Sat and Sun.
Sof earned 11% of it's Production Budget. Barbie earned almost 13% from Domestic BO, likely 27% Worldwide.
SoF earned 150% of it's Budget in the past 7 days, Barbie did $157M Domestic in the last 7 days, which would be 157% of Budget, and likely 320% Worldwide.
Today marks the 31st day in release, and it will likely be ranked 4th or 5th. Others have done this, but not really while up against Barbenhiemer.
I do wonder how well SoF will fare in Mexico and Spain - Hispanics seem to be going in droves (anecdotally inferred, I have not seen this directly)
Regarding International figures at The Numbers, I keep seeing the heaviest markets with reporting dates within a day or 2. I have not kept track of the actual figures reported from day to day, but if the reporting dates really are each day, then the fluctuation should not be all that much. Maybe Bruce Wokenash just uses Woke Math - like Fake Math, aka Lib Math.
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
My suspicion failed. WokeSayGay Mansion dropped to $492 per theater, in it's 6th day of release. But SoF dropped more than I expected, to $458 per screen.
I do still feel confident that Mansion will fall below SoF for Sat and Sun.
Do you know something about Haunted Mansion that I don't, or are you just calling it that because it's a Disney movie?
If that's the case, I wouldn't call it that. I'm hoping that there's nothing woke at all about it. I honestly have not heard a single thing about the movie negative or positive. To me, it would be great news that it's failing and it's not woke, because that's a great indicator that Disney has actually done lasting harm to their brand with their decisions.
As for whether or not SoF takes over the daily amount over Haunted Mansion, who's to say? It just got the bad news that it's losing 410 theater this week, down to 3,001 while Haunted Mansion retains its 3,740 theaters.
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Sof earned 11% of it's Production Budget. Barbie earned almost 13% from Domestic BO, likely 27% Worldwide.
SoF earned 150% of it's Budget in the past 7 days, Barbie did $157M Domestic in the last 7 days, which would be 157% of Budget, and likely 320% Worldwide.
Yeah. Your numbers and mine are going to be a bit off because we're going about different ways of calculating them. I've got both Barbie and SoF making 14% yesterday, but I'm using their existing running totals with the new daily money added and then rounding up or down to the nearest million. We'll get the same number in the end, but that's where the discrepancy is coming from now.
This is also why Insidious made 0% on Tuesday, but made 6% on Wednesday. My numbers more accurately reflect the entire total of money a movie made at the end of every day, your numbers more accurately represent money made on the day itself.
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Today marks the 31st day in release, and it will likely be ranked 4th or 5th. Others have done this, but not really while up against Barbenhiemer.
I do wonder how well SoF will fare in Mexico and Spain - Hispanics seem to be going in droves (anecdotally inferred, I have not seen this directly)
Regarding International figures at The Numbers, I keep seeing the heaviest markets with reporting dates within a day or 2. I have not kept track of the actual figures reported from day to day, but if the reporting dates really are each day, then the fluctuation should not be all that much. Maybe Bruce Wokenash just uses Woke Math - like Fake Math, aka Lib Math.
At the end of the day, unless there's a huge scandal going on, his final numbers need to reflect reality. I don't think there's math with an agenda going on here. I just think the updating of international box offices has left us with a lot to be desired. The worst thing I've ever seen so far on the international numbers is how MI7 got so messed up in the last 24 hours with something like $250 Million from China added last night and then taken back away again this morning.
But if you look at my weekly lists I usually note when I see odd behavior. For instance, even though Guardians 3 has made money in the US over the last 3 weeks, it's lost something in the area of $2.5 Million in that time with three consecutive weeks of a smaller worldwide take being reported.
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Once again...
Even though all the official numbers aren't in yet, I'm just going to do the daily update now since I'll probably be busy later tonight.
SoF gets its first sub-$1.5M day with an official figure of only $1,440,581.
Barbie drops 8% as well with a projected $11.8M domestic Wednesday night.
Super Mario Bros didn't even show up on Wednesday's list yet, so I don't know what's going on there. I'm sure it wasn't booted out of all the theaters mid-week. But again, it's not making enough money to move the needle at all.
Insidious: The Red Door is projected at making $225k last night. This will be the last time I even bother mentioning this movie outside of the weekly list update unless it did some AMAZING international numbers and came back in contention.
1. M3GAN - 1,475%
2. Super Mario Bros - 1,356%
3. Sound of Freedom - 1,114% (+7%) [The rounding to a million really hurt it today]
4. Insidious: The Red Door - 1,100% (+0%)
5. Barbie - 829% (+12%)
SoF needs 243% to beat SMB.
SoF needs 362% to beat M3GAN.
SoF is 285% above Barbie.
... But in actuality, Barbie has almost certainly made another 60% to 76% from International figures on Monday through Thursday that aren't yet updated, putting Barbie somewhere around 897% and only 217% behind SoF.
This weekend will tell us a lot about the future of SoF in the Domestic market. It lost over 400 theaters as reported last night. My guess is that it will make about another $6 to $7 Million this weekend, or 43% to 57% depending on how the rounding falls. The percentage loss it had last night will actually be beneficial to it this weekend since it was so close to rolling up instead of rolling down to the closest million.
It's looking less and less likely that SoF will end the year on top without good international numbers.
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Quote:'Sound of Freedom' Funder Fabian Marta Arrested For Child Kidnapping
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I usually note when I see odd behavior. For instance . . .
By Aleks Phillips On 8/4/23 at 10:39 AM EDT
St. Louis Metropolitan Police confirmed to Newsweek that Marta, 51, from Chesterfield, Missouri, was charged on July 21, and was arrested on July 23.
https://www.newsweek.com/sound-freedom-funder-fabian-marta-arrest-chil
d-kidnapping-1817498
A child molester funds a movie about child sex slaves. 6ixStringJack, that is "odd behavior."
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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