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Uggh... Barbie looks awful (and Oppenheimer is too long)

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Thursday, July 27, 2023 9:16 AM

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"Japan Was Already Defeated": The Case Against the Nuclear Bomb and for Basic Morality

By Timothy P. Carney

July 26, 2023

“I was against it on two counts,” Dwight Eisenhower, supreme allied commander, five-star general, and president of the United States, said of dropping nuclear bombs on two Japanese cities. “First, the Japanese were ready to surrender, and it wasn’t necessary to hit them with that awful thing. Second, I hated to see our country be the first to use such a weapon.”

This certainly cuts against the common argument these days: that dropping the atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki saved lives, certainly the lives of American soldiers, and maybe even Japanese lives on net.

Since the movie Oppenheimer came out, I have had occasion to opine against the nuclear bombings based on straightforward moral principles. I have repeatedly been told that I am being too precious.

Many view the question of whether to kill the civilians of Hiroshima and Nagasaki as an example of the “trolley problem.”

The trolley problem is a philosophical exercise meant to test the distinction between the moral weight of the actions we choose versus the consequences of inaction. Is it the better decision to take an action that kills one person versus taking an inaction that results in five deaths?

The implication is that nuking Nagasaki and Hiroshima is flipping a lever, rerouting the trolley, and causing the death of fewer people.

It’s a fine ethical exercise, but it’s inapplicable in real life for a million reasons because, in real life, things don’t run like an automated trolley on a track. We know where a trolley will go if we don’t flip a switch because there is a track there. We don’t know what Japan’s military and civilian population would have done had we not flipped the switch.

Defenders of the atomic bomb say that our only alternative to the deliberate slaughter of tens of thousands of noncombatants, including babies and elderly women, was a massive land invasion that would have cost millions of lives. They present this as if it was one of two sets of train tracks available.

People who were very involved at the time disagree. Again, Eisenhower said the Japanese were about to surrender.

Eisenhower told his biographer that he expressed to War Secretary Harry Stimson his “grave misgivings, first on the basis of my belief that Japan was already defeated and that dropping the bomb was completely unnecessary, and secondly because I thought that our country should avoid shocking world opinion by the use of a weapon whose employment was, I thought, no longer mandatory as a measure to save American lives. It was my belief that Japan was, at that very moment, seeking some way to surrender with a minimum loss of ‘face.’”

Was Eisenhower right that the atomic bomb was “no longer mandatory as a measure to save American lives”? I don’t know! Neither do you! There’s a lot of uncertainty here.

Adm. William Leahy, President Harry Truman’s chief military adviser, agreed with Eisenhower. “It is my opinion that the use of this barbarous weapon at Hiroshima and Nagasaki was of no material assistance in our war against Japan,” Leahy wrote. “The Japanese were already defeated and ready to surrender because of the effective sea blockade and the successful bombing with conventional weapons.”

Again, you can believe other people besides Leahy or Eisenhower. I can’t adjudicate the various claims. But I can conclude that there was lots of uncertainty about where this war was going. There certainly weren’t just two possible paths.

When we are deeply uncertain about the consequences of our actions, where do we turn? We turn to moral principles, including the principle that it is immoral to kill innocent women and children.

https://www.aei.org/op-eds/japan-was-already-defeated-the-case-against
-the-nuclear-bomb-and-for-basic-morality
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.m

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Thursday, July 27, 2023 4:24 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Where's (correction: where are) your "moral principals" (correction: principles) about drone strikes killing women and children when you've got the President you want in office?

I bet that article doesn't exist. Because people like you don't have any moral principals. (correction: principles)


You people are loathsome.

Joe Biden has all but ended US drone warfare



https://jabberwocking.com/raw-data-joe-biden-has-all-but-ended-us-dron
e-warfare
/

In the second year of President Joe Biden’s administration, the number of US airstrikes fell to a historic low
https://airwars.org/research/us-airstrikes-fell-to-historic-low-in-202
2-despite-fresh-operations
/

6ixStringJack, your signature reads: "How you do anything is how you do everything."
6ix, you and every Trumptard I know (without even one exception) do everything in a half-ass manner, just exactly how you did this particular comment claiming Democrats are killing people with drone strikes. That is why your lives are "difficult", "unfulfilling", "disappointing", or whatever single word describes your feelings. Your feelings are not caused by Democrats. Your feelings are caused by you and how you live and screw up everything you touch.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, July 27, 2023 5:51 PM

The tragedy of the Manhattan Project
Framing nuclear as a military-first technology has been disastrous for mankind

by Matthew Yglesias, Jul 27, 2023

If you were writing a Manhattan Project movie as a work of fiction, you would tell a different story than any of the contested versions of reality.

The fictional version might go something like this: the United States starts way behind in nuclear physics, with fission having been first demonstrated in Berlin in December of 1938 and the world’s premier quantum scientist, Werner Heisenberg, leading the German effort. But Albert Einstein and Leo Szilard, two Jewish refugees from Hitler’s dictatorship, write to FDR that the United States needs to explore the creation of a fission bomb. Robert Oppenheimer, from a wealthy assimilated Jewish family, leads a team that features critical contributions at every level from exiles and emigres. They beat Heisenberg to the bomb — in part because Niels Bohr refuses to help the Nazis and in part because Hitler thinks quantum mechanics is “Jewish science” — and, because of this nuclear breakthrough, win the war.

As the movie “Oppenheimer” shows, this is more or less the narrative the Manhattan Project protagonists thought they were living out.

But they were wrong. Their work was incredibly impressive from a technical standpoint, and it did end up getting used in the war. But Germany had already surrendered, and despite the endless debates over the validity of its use on Japan, no one thinks the United States wouldn’t have won the war without nuclear bombs. Instead, the causal importance of the Manhattan Project for the world was all about its influence on the postwar era. Again, as detailed in the film, the American government was initially optimistic about obtaining a monopoly on nuclear weapons, but that proved short-lived in part thanks to Soviet espionage.

And what I think is really interesting is that while the Manhattan Project indisputably accelerated nuclear science, I think that by turning nuclear research into a military-first undertaking, in the longer run it probably retarded the development of nuclear electricity for civilian purposes. This is the kind of thing that’s by nature inherently speculative. But as a person who loves counterfactual historical speculations, I think it’s correct — if World War II had somehow not happened, commercial nuclear reactors would have been built later but in a more sustainable way that eventually led to their more widespread adoption.

The Manhattan Project didn’t accomplish its goals

People continue to debate the morality of the decision to drop the bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but in important ways there never was a “decision” in the way that people often think about this. Harry Truman established presidential control over the use of nuclear weapons after the bombing of Nagasaki. That’s not to say he was somehow out of the loop on the earlier bombings; he always accepted responsibility for them as part of the overall ethic of “the buck stops here.”

But on an operational level, no distinction was drawn between nuclear weapons and other forms of ordinance. The United States was at war with Japan, and the military commanders were empowered to deploy available weapons in order to try to defeat their enemy.

The interesting high-level policy decision was the decision to build the bombs in the first place. This was a monumental undertaking that cost $2 billion relative to the 1940 GDP of $200 billion. Importantly, the bulk of that money did not go to Oppenheimer and his famous team of scientists at Los Alamos. Everything you see in the movie in the New Mexico desert — the town built from scratch, the international all-star team of physicists, the testing site, etc. — accounted for about 10% of the program’s budget. The bulk of the expense was building the multiple nuclear reactors and supportive infrastructure required to manufacture the quantity of fissile material needed to build the bombs. In other words, it wasn’t just a very expensive science project (though it w

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Thursday, July 27, 2023 6:59 PM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Where's (correction: where are) your "moral principals" (correction: principles) about drone strikes killing women and children when you've got the President you want in office?

I bet that article doesn't exist. Because people like you don't have any moral principals. (correction: principles)


You people are loathsome.

Joe Biden has all but ended US drone warfare



https://jabberwocking.com/raw-data-joe-biden-has-all-but-ended-us-dron
e-warfare
/

In the second year of President Joe Biden’s administration, the number of US airstrikes fell to a historic low
https://airwars.org/research/us-airstrikes-fell-to-historic-low-in-202
2-despite-fresh-operations
/

6ixStringJack, your signature reads: "How you do anything is how you do everything."
6ix, you and every Trumptard I know (without even one exception) do everything in a half-ass manner, just exactly how you did this particular comment claiming Democrats are killing people with drone strikes. That is why your lives are "difficult", "unfulfilling", "disappointing", or whatever single word describes your feelings. Your feelings are not caused by Democrats. Your feelings are caused by you and how you live and screw up everything you touch.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly




LOL @ fat retard Kevin Drum.

I can make graphs saying whatever I want them to say too, dummy.

Did he give you any more gross pictures of him shirtless on the toilet for you to jerk off to recently?

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Thursday, July 27, 2023 9:48 PM

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Barbie made $1.1 M on Last Wed, with promotions.
$21.2 M on Thursday, not sure how many showings/times.
$48.2 M on Friday.
$47.8 M on Saturday - the whole day.
$43.7 M on Sunday.
$26.1 M on Monday.
This is a movie that really seems front-loaded.



Well... I'm hoping that it is.

But that $26.1 Million on a non-holiday Monday give me pause.

Here's a list of movies released in 2023 that had a higher Monday Box Office (Holiday or not) than Barbie just did:





And now it looks like it just made another $26 Million on Cheap Seat Tuesday.

If true, that will put it at number 11 on the Biggest Tuesday at the Domestic Box Office.

https://www.the-numbers.com/box-office-records/domestic/all-movies/bes
t-performance-by-day-of-the-week/tuesday


Once again, let's break down which movies are above it.

1. Spider-Man: Far From Home (Jul 2, 2019): Two days before Independence Day.
2. Star Wars Ep. VII: The Force Awakens (Dec 22, 2015): First Disney Star Wars Movie; Winter Break; Tuesday before Christmas.
3. The Amazing Spider-Man (Jul 3, 2012): One day before Independence Day.
4. Avengers: End Game (Apr 30, 2019): End Game.
5. Spider-Man: No Way Home (Dec 21, 2021): Tuesday before Christmas.
6. The Lion King (Jul 23, 2019): No holidays in vicinity. Billion Dollar Live Action Disney Remake Era.
7. Star Wars Ep. VII: The Force Awakens (Dec 29, 2015): Tail end of Winter Break.
8. Transformers (July 3, 2007): Day before Independence Day.
9. Star Wars Ep. VIII: The Last Jedi (Dec 26, 2017): Day after Christmas.
10. Incredibles 2 (Jun 19, 2018): President's Day/Federal Holiday. Not Juneteenth yet.

Once again, all of those movies were Marvel and/or Lucasfilm and/or sequels/reboots and/or fell on a holiday. Transformers is a joke these days, but the hype around that was was insane back in 2007.



Unless Barbie falls off a cliff, there could be a chance the movie makes it to the top of the 2023 Worldwide Box Office vs. Production Budget despite it's (modest for a blockbuster) $100 Million Production Budget. That's the same budget that Super Mario Bros had, and it's number 2 on the list with 1,355% right now. And although it's impossible for me to go back and get the actual worldwide number for SMB after 5 days of release, I can see that Barbie already has made $10 Million more than SMB did in the Domestic Box Office in that time.

But if you look at the way the numbers were tabulated for both movies, Day 5 on SMB is Sunday where it is Tuesday for Barbie with no "preview day" for SMB... So shenanigans?

If we match up Tuesday to Tuesday, SMB was ahead of Barbie by about $26 Million at this point.


In just 5 days Barbie has already made 408% of its Production Budget back worldwide.

I think this is all terrible news, but I'm not really sure about that front-loaded theory of yours, JSF.

I was hoping for a 70% drop off in the 2nd weekend, but we're 2 days into the week right now when most folk are working and we have yet to see a 70% drop off from the bloated Friday number that includes whatever it pulled in on Wednesday and Thursday of last week.

We're probably going to see figures in the very high $20 Million to middle $30 Million range all weekend.


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I've already put the Biggest Monday and Tuesday lists together. I'm not going to do the Biggest Wednesday too.

I'll just mention that although the movies that beat it are more of the same (Marvel, Star-Wars, Disney Sequels/Remakes), there were quite a few other properties that didn't hit the toplists of Monday and Tuesday such as Harry Potter movies, Lord of the rings movies, The Passion of the Christ, a Matrix flick and Twilight: Eclipse topping the list. A big reason

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Monday, July 31, 2023 5:53 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK (July 26th):
In just 5 days Barbie has already made 408% of its Production Budget back worldwide.

I think this is all terrible news, but I'm not really sure about that front-loaded theory of yours, JSF.

I was hoping for a 70% drop off in the 2nd weekend, but we're 2 days into the week right now when most folk are working and we have yet to see a 70% drop off from the bloated Friday number that includes whatever it pulled in on Wednesday and Thursday of last week.

We're probably going to see figures in the very high $20 Million to middle $30 Million range all weekend.



Projections on Barbie for the 2nd weekend:

Friday: $29,000,000
Saturday: $34,600,000
Sunday: $29,400,000

And as I've brought up several times before, the studios usually downplay their performances on the big blockbusters for at least the first month to six weeks so they don't embarrass themselves, so it's extremely likely that Barbie actually made $2 to $5 Million more over the weekend than these projections when the real numbers come in tomorrow night.

Worldwide, Barbie has already made 775% of its $100 Million production budget in only 10 days, which quickly put it 5th place on the 2023 Worldwide Box Office vs. Production Budget list that I'll update tomorrow, in between Insidious' roughly 1,019% for 4th place and Evil Dead Rise's final 768%.

If it doesn't slow down this week, it is possible that it will bypass Sound of Freedom next weekend, and if SoF doesn't do as well overseas as it did in the US, it's possible that it never catches up to Barbie if that happens.

Who knows what's going to happen here. Barbie, at least so far unfortunately, has been the phenomena that the Legacy Media predicted it would be and Tom Cruise himself was worried that it would be.

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Thursday, August 3, 2023 12:19 AM


'Barbie' and 'Oppenheimer' Clear $1 Billion USD After Only Two Weeks

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/barbie-oppenheimer-clear-1-billion-203
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Thursday, August 3, 2023 12:25 AM

‘Barbie,’ and why conservatives keep losing the culture war

by Derek Hunter, a former staffer for Sen. Conrad Burns (R-Mont.)

I’m not proud of the fact that I’ve seen the Barbie movie, but I’ve seen the Barbie movie.

I have two daughters, ages six and four. They wanted to see “Barbie” because, well…Barbie. I was hoping they’d forget about it long enough for it to come onto cable and spare me the humiliation, but no such luck.

That left me with the prospect of disappointing my children or sucking it up and going to see what I was reasonably certain, based on reviews, would be two hours of obnoxious left-wing indoctrination. Naturally, I chose the latter.

If I was going to be forced to watch this, I was going to do it on my terms. I live in a rural area that turns out to have several drive-in theaters within reasonable distance, and Barbie was playing at almost all of them. So we loaded up the family trickster and set out for the drive-in.

It was some comfort that the tickets were only $10, as opposed to the usual $25 and up (depending on which theater you go to), and an added bonus that the youngest got in free. If Hollywood is going to get my money for this, I thought, I’ll make it as little as possible.

We got there and got set up. I don’t know when you last went to the drive-in, but you should see if there are any near you, because the experience was fun. I’d gone a lot growing up — our house was 2 miles from a drive-in — and it was always a blast, even when the movies left something to be desired. I wanted my kids to experience it at least once. (As it turns out, they loved it too, so we will likely return.)

After setting up our chairs and raiding the concession, we turned on the portable radio and tuned to the correct FM station as the movie started.

My eyes were ready to roll.

Only they didn’t.

The movie was no masterpiece, but I found it to be good. Margot Robbie is an excellent actress and easy on ready-to-roll eyes. Ryan Gosling was actually hilarious as Ken. I’m not a laugh-out-loud kind of guy — a chuckle is the most you’ll usually get from me — but this movie made me laugh out loud more than once. My girls were all-in from the start, laughing at goofy things and loving the clothes and life-size dream houses.

There was, of course, the left-wing whining about “the patriarchy” that many right-leaning reviewers have noted. Fortunately, young kids do not know what any of that is, and they are also smart enough not to wonder or ask about it. The Barbie World, to them, is about Barbie.

The only question I got was from my six-year-old, about the one obvious obscenity that the movie bleeps out for comedic effect. (There is no swearing in the movie.) She didn’t like that. She does not like “bad words,” even if she had no idea which bad word it was or what it was about.

And that was it. The plot of the movie didn’t matter — it never does to young kids. Teens might understand it and need a little discussion afterward.

The only person who didn’t enjoy the experience was my wife. She grew up with Barbie as, I imagine, most women today have. The movie’s left-wing message upset her. When asked by the kids why she didn’t like it, she replied, “It was a movie about Barbie made by someone who hates Barbie.”

I didn’t see it that way, but perhaps that’s because Barbie doesn’t mean anything to me. If they make a movie about transgender G.I. Joe and how the bad guy COBRAs are trying to prevent people from becoming their “true selves,” I might have a different reaction.

As far as the movie goes overall, I see no reason to tell people to keep children away from it. Of course it is liberal. Of course it makes clumsy efforts at propagandizing. But so what? So does almost everything in the entertainment business.

You can’t take kids to see a movie about the horrors of human trafficking — and why would you? Culture happens around and to you, whether you participate in it or not. Pretending you can close your eyes and make it go away, like the end of “Raiders of the Lost Ark,” isn’t rea

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Thursday, August 3, 2023 2:28 AM

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You can’t take kids to see a movie about the horrors of human trafficking — and why would you? Culture happens around and to you, whether you participate in it or not. Pretending you can close your eyes and make it go away, like the end of “Raiders of the Lost Ark,” isn’t realistic.

Participate, and then educate afterward, or at least be aware. Pretending something doesn’t exist doesn’t make it disappear. Take responsibility for strengthening your values in your children. Use moments like “Barbie” as an opportunity to explain. Otherwise, we will just continue to lose.



Nobody's closing their eyes, dipshit. The eyes are open.

InBev, Target and Disney are getting destroyed in 2023. If you don't want to be a part of that, don't be surprised when your youngest you're so happy you didn't have to pay a ticket for tells you and your wife that she's a boy.

Or worse, one of those illegals the Dems let into your city kidnap her and do the things to her that Democrats and the bad guys in Sound of Freedom would love to do to your kids.

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There was, of course, the left-wing whining about “the patriarchy” that many right-leaning reviewers have noted. Fortunately, young kids do not know what any of that is, and they are also smart enough not to wonder or ask about it. The Barbie World, to them, is about Barbie.



And just what the fuck does that mean, dude?

You obviously give no respect to the intelligence of children, and if you think that "not wondering or asking questions" about things is "smart" behavior by a child, then let me just tell you now that your daughter's are not destined for a career in STEM and you might as well just buy them THOT Daughter's First Webcam setup because they've got a long career ahead of them on OnlyFans taking money for calling a bunch of rando weirdo dudes online who aren't you Daddy... That is, assuming that you're not filling them up with junk food and making them look like thumbs by the time they get into high school where they're going to be bullied mercilessly for being fat and end up hating the world and everyone who lives in it by graduation.

Learn how to parent before giving any advice to other people on parenting. You're shit at it.

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Thursday, August 3, 2023 2:43 AM

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'Barbie' and 'Oppenheimer' Clear $1 Billion USD After Only Two Weeks

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/barbie-oppenheimer-clear-1-billion-203
601204.html



The Box Office is so pathetic that they're pushing two non-related movies together to make headlines like this.


Avengers: End Game reached a billion on its own in 5 days.
Avengers: Infinity War: 11 Days.
Spider-Man: No Way Home: 12 Days.
Star Wars: The Force Awakens: 12 Days
Jurassic World: 13 Days
Avatar: The Way of Water 14 Days

More recently, Super Mario Bros took 26 Days.


Barbie will take at least 21 days to hit a Billion
Oppenheimer will never hit 1 Billion.

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