Uggh... Barbie looks awful (and Oppenheimer is too long)
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UPDATED: Monday, August 3, 2026 02:12
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I didn't thing 'Barbie' would make $70 mill this weekend, I will go eat crow now.
That makes two of us, brother.
Here's hoping for a 70% drop next weekend to restore my faith in humanity.Quote:
As for the people at Disney, they're eating something else...ick.
Ah yes... The silver lining.
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Barbie made $1.1 M on Last Wed, with promotions.
$21.2 M on Thursday, not sure how many showings/times.
$48.2 M on Friday.
$47.8 M on Saturday - the whole day.
$43.7 M on Sunday.
$26.1 M on Monday.
This is a movie that really seems front-loaded.
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WARNING: It looks as though Second put the ending spoilers to Oppenheimer in his post this morning because he's a douchebag.
It's been out like two days dude.
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Do I have to school you on how fucking dumb the American public is too, dude?
And forgive me for not believing that a $185,000,000 movie made by Christopher Nolan is historically accurate and not super loaded with artistic liberty and embellishments regardless.
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Quote:Barbie made $1.1 M on Last Wed, with promotions.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by whozit:
I didn't thing 'Barbie' would make $70 mill this weekend, I will go eat crow now.
That makes two of us, brother.
Here's hoping for a 70% drop next weekend to restore my faith in humanity.Quote:
As for the people at Disney, they're eating something else...ick.
Ah yes... The silver lining.
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How you do anything is how you do everything.
$21.2 M on Thursday, not sure how many showings/times.
$48.2 M on Friday.
$47.8 M on Saturday - the whole day.
$43.7 M on Sunday.
$26.1 M on Monday.
This is a movie that really seems front-loaded.
Well... I'm hoping that it is.
But that $26.1 Million on a non-holiday Monday give me pause.
Here's a list of movies released in 2023 that had a higher Monday Box Office (Holiday or not) than Barbie just did:
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I'm also going to go out on a limb and guess that Avatar: The Way of Water is the only movie released in 2022 that had a higher Monday than Barbie just did when it made $32,270,430 on December 26th on its 2nd Monday in theaters (which is twice the $16,257,078 it made on its first Monday when half the country was an icicle.)
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as for chemistry and physics
Not just Little Boy but another device, Scot Manley
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I'm also going to go out on a limb and guess that Avatar: The Way of Water is the only movie released in 2022 that had a higher Monday than Barbie just did when it made $32,270,430 on December 26th on its 2nd Monday in theaters (which is twice the $16,257,078 it made on its first Monday when half the country was an icicle.)
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I stand corrected. There were two movies in 2022 that made more than Barbie just did on a Monday. Both Avatar: The Way of Water and Top Gun: Maverick.
https://www.the-numbers.com/box-office-records/domestic/all-movies/bes
t-performance-by-day-of-the-week/monday
Without adjusting for inflation, Barbie is the 13th highest grossing Monday at the Domestic Box Office of all time.
And let's take a look at the others above it...
1. Black Panther (February 19th, 2018): It wasn't the black holiday Juneteenth back then, but it was still a federal holiday and all the black women they have put in every position in the post offices all over the country were able to go see it.
2. Star Wars Ep. VII: The Force Awakens (December 21st, 2015): Another Monday, but right in the middle of Winter Break for kids, which I'm sure had at least some impact on the nubmers.
3. Spider-Man: No Way Home (December 20th, 2021): Yet another Monday during the middle of Winter Break for the kids.
4. Avengers: Endgame (April 29th, 2019): No holiday to speak of, unless we're counting "International Dance Day", but it was freakin' Endgame. The pre-plandemic movie they compare all other movies to today.
5. Top Gun: Maverick (May 30th, 2022): Memorial Day. 'Nuff Said.
6. Avatar: The Way of Water (December 26th, 2022): The day after Christmas and the highest grossing movie of 2022.
7. Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (December 26th, 2016): The day after Christmas and what many claim is the only good thing to happen to Star Wars since Disney took over.
8. Star Wars Ep. VII: The Force Awakens (December 28th, 2016): This movie still sucks a week later, but people were still high off of the idea of a new Star Wars movie and it was still the tail end of Winter Break.
9. Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker (December 23, 2019): Star Wars had been beaten into the ground by Disney at this point, but it's still a new Star Wars movie and it was the Monday before Christmas.
10. Spider-Man 2 (July 5th, 2004): Arguably the best Spider-Man movie ever made, the day after Independence Day and a Monday that everyone who gets federal holidays off got off.
11. Star Wars Ep. VIII: The Last Jedi (December 25th, 2017): The movie that arguably killed Disney Star Wars, but again... Star Wars and on Christmas day to boot.
12. Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull (May 26th, 2008): People wouldn't have complained so much about this one if they knew what was coming 15 years later. Yeah... it was trash, but people were still excited about Indy back then and this was Memorial day.
What was Monday, July 24th, 2023? Nothing. Barbie made 13th place on the all time Monday list with several movies that dated back to the mid-2000's on a non-holiday Monday and is the only movie on the list that isn't a Marvel Property, a Lucasfilm Property and/or a sequel. It is also the only movie in the top 13 on that list to have not fallen directly on a holiday, a federally observed holiday, or Christmas break besides Avengers: End Game which didn't ever need to fall on a holiday to get in the top 5 on that list.
I very much hope this movie was front loaded, but with the data available right now, saying that it is front-loaded is speaking from emotions instead of math.
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Was Hollywood smart to pit Barbie and Oppenheimer against each other? The box office says so
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/0/barbie-vs-oppenheimer-box-office/
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Barbie made $1.1 M on Last Wed, with promotions.
$21.2 M on Thursday, not sure how many showings/times.
$48.2 M on Friday.
$47.8 M on Saturday - the whole day.
$43.7 M on Sunday.
$26.1 M on Monday.
This is a movie that really seems front-loaded.
Well... I'm hoping that it is.
But that $26.1 Million on a non-holiday Monday give me pause.
Here's a list of movies released in 2023 that had a higher Monday Box Office (Holiday or not) than Barbie just did:
And now it looks like it just made another $26 Million on Cheap Seat Tuesday.
If true, that will put it at number 11 on the Biggest Tuesday at the Domestic Box Office.
https://www.the-numbers.com/box-office-records/domestic/all-movies/bes
t-performance-by-day-of-the-week/tuesday
Once again, let's break down which movies are above it.
1. Spider-Man: Far From Home (Jul 2, 2019): Two days before Independence Day.
2. Star Wars Ep. VII: The Force Awakens (Dec 22, 2015): First Disney Star Wars Movie; Winter Break; Tuesday before Christmas.
3. The Amazing Spider-Man (Jul 3, 2012): One day before Independence Day.
4. Avengers: End Game (Apr 30, 2019): End Game.
5. Spider-Man: No Way Home (Dec 21, 2021): Tuesday before Christmas.
6. The Lion King (Jul 23, 2019): No holidays in vicinity. Billion Dollar Live Action Disney Remake Era.
7. Star Wars Ep. VII: The Force Awakens (Dec 29, 2015): Tail end of Winter Break.
8. Transformers (July 3, 2007): Day before Independence Day.
9. Star Wars Ep. VIII: The Last Jedi (Dec 26, 2017): Day after Christmas.
10. Incredibles 2 (Jun 19, 2018): President's Day/Federal Holiday. Not Juneteenth yet.
Once again, all of those movies were Marvel and/or Lucasfilm and/or sequels/reboots and/or fell on a holiday. Transformers is a joke these days, but the hype around that was was insane back in 2007.
Unless Barbie falls off a cliff, there could be a chance the movie makes it to the top of the 2023 Worldwide Box Office vs. Production Budget despite it's (modest for a blockbuster) $100 Million Production Budget. That's the same budget that Super Mario Bros had, and it's number 2 on the list with 1,355% right now. And although it's impossible for me to go back and get the actual worldwide number for SMB after 5 days of release, I can see that Barbie already has made $10 Million more than SMB did in the Domestic Box Office in that time.
But if you look at the way the numbers were tabulated for both movies, Day 5 on SMB is Sunday where it is Tuesday for Barbie with no "preview day" for SMB... So shenanigans?
If we match up Tuesday to Tuesday, SMB was ahead of Barbie by about $26 Million at this point.
In just 5 days Barbie has already made 408% of its Production Budget back worldwide.
I think this is all terrible news, but I'm not really sure about that front-loaded theory of yours, JSF.
I was hoping for a 70% drop off in the 2nd weekend, but we're 2 days into the week right now when most folk are working and we have yet to see a 70% drop off from the bloated Friday number that includes whatever it pulled in on Wednesday and Thursday of last week.
We're probably going to see figures in the very high $20 Million to middle $30 Million range all weekend.
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A story about a kids Doll, a fashion doll created by American businesswoman Ruth Handler, manufactured by American toy company Mattel, the 'Barbie' brand has expanded into a long-running multimedia franchise
One other story is about the real life guy who built the atom bomb, a man emblematic of a new type of technocratic power, almost went off on a tangent in mystic study of Sanskrit, nominated for the Nobel Prize for physics three times, in 1946, 1951 and 1967
Man's Right to Knowledge
https://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/27/news/1954nuclear-scientist-speaks-i
n-our-pages100-75-and-50-years-ago.html
Part of a group that would later be the World Academy of Art and Science, attended the first Pugwash Conferences on Science and World Affairs in 1957. daughter Katherine "Toni" Oppenheimer Silber. Toni was refused security clearance for her chosen vocation as a United Nations translator after the FBI brought up the old charges against her father. In January 1977, three months after the end of her second marriage, she hanged herself in her family beach house. She left the property to "the people of St. John for a public park and recreation area"
https://web.archive.org/web/20180110054647/https://oldtowncrier.com/20
14/07/01/oppenheimers-legacy-on-st-john/
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"Japan Was Already Defeated": The Case Against the Nuclear Bomb and for Basic Morality
By Timothy P. Carney
July 26, 2023
“I was against it on two counts,” Dwight Eisenhower, supreme allied commander, five-star general, and president of the United States, said of dropping nuclear bombs on two Japanese cities. “First, the Japanese were ready to surrender, and it wasn’t necessary to hit them with that awful thing. Second, I hated to see our country be the first to use such a weapon.”
This certainly cuts against the common argument these days: that dropping the atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki saved lives, certainly the lives of American soldiers, and maybe even Japanese lives on net.
Since the movie Oppenheimer came out, I have had occasion to opine against the nuclear bombings based on straightforward moral principles. I have repeatedly been told that I am being too precious.
Many view the question of whether to kill the civilians of Hiroshima and Nagasaki as an example of the “trolley problem.”
The trolley problem is a philosophical exercise meant to test the distinction between the moral weight of the actions we choose versus the consequences of inaction. Is it the better decision to take an action that kills one person versus taking an inaction that results in five deaths?
The implication is that nuking Nagasaki and Hiroshima is flipping a lever, rerouting the trolley, and causing the death of fewer people.
It’s a fine ethical exercise, but it’s inapplicable in real life for a million reasons because, in real life, things don’t run like an automated trolley on a track. We know where a trolley will go if we don’t flip a switch because there is a track there. We don’t know what Japan’s military and civilian population would have done had we not flipped the switch.
Defenders of the atomic bomb say that our only alternative to the deliberate slaughter of tens of thousands of noncombatants, including babies and elderly women, was a massive land invasion that would have cost millions of lives. They present this as if it was one of two sets of train tracks available.
People who were very involved at the time disagree. Again, Eisenhower said the Japanese were about to surrender.
Eisenhower told his biographer that he expressed to War Secretary Harry Stimson his “grave misgivings, first on the basis of my belief that Japan was already defeated and that dropping the bomb was completely unnecessary, and secondly because I thought that our country should avoid shocking world opinion by the use of a weapon whose employment was, I thought, no longer mandatory as a measure to save American lives. It was my belief that Japan was, at that very moment, seeking some way to surrender with a minimum loss of ‘face.’”
Was Eisenhower right that the atomic bomb was “no longer mandatory as a measure to save American lives”? I don’t know! Neither do you! There’s a lot of uncertainty here.
Adm. William Leahy, President Harry Truman’s chief military adviser, agreed with Eisenhower. “It is my opinion that the use of this barbarous weapon at Hiroshima and Nagasaki was of no material assistance in our war against Japan,” Leahy wrote. “The Japanese were already defeated and ready to surrender because of the effective sea blockade and the successful bombing with conventional weapons.”
Again, you can believe other people besides Leahy or Eisenhower. I can’t adjudicate the various claims. But I can conclude that there was lots of uncertainty about where this war was going. There certainly weren’t just two possible paths.
When we are deeply uncertain about the consequences of our actions, where do we turn? We turn to moral principles, including the principle that it is immoral to kill innocent women and children.
https://www.aei.org/op-eds/japan-was-already-defeated-the-case-against
-the-nuclear-bomb-and-for-basic-morality/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefl
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