Are we living in a modern day facist Nazi Germany
POSTED BY: piratejenny
UPDATED: Friday, March 11, 2005 19:39
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There are those who will be quick to dismiss such a question as the paranoid delusions of a hard-core letfy, but take a read at Patrick Buchanan's 'The American Conservative' Magazine, for an opinion from the right-of-center:
http://amconmag.com/2005_02_14/article.html
I'm not ready to say we are running headlong in that direction, but, as the author points out, there are some very disturbing tendencies among some segments of the populace and way too many of our leaders (not to mention the chickenshit media).
Humbly Yours,
The Most Gracious Loser
"The Virtuous Life is its own punishment" - TMGL 2001
"Respect the cruller. Tame the doughnut!" - XH 2001
"What's the ugliest part of your body?
... I think it's your MIND" FZ 1968
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Most Gracious Loser,
Well written article. Thanks for sharing. It is thought provoking to hear similar concerns coming from varying points on the political spectrum: liberal, libertarian, conservative. Regardless of political ideology, many of us feel it. Something's not right.
Can't Take My Gorram Sky 
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try this :
http://www.kontraband.com/show/show.asp?ID=1843
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Ah yes, Left Wing Propaganda. They don't even try anymore. 
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This article was really good the comparisons are so striking they if you subsittuted the word German for Americans they could almost be talking about us
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The reality was that the German people, as individuals, had lost their courage. The German government preferred it that way as a fearful people are easier to rule than a courageous one. But the German people didn't wish to lose their self-image of courage. So, when confronted with a situation demanding individual courage, in the form of a government gone wrong, the German people simply pretended that the situation did not exist. And in that simple self-deception lay the ruin of an entire nation and the coming of the second World War. .
I think this is the perfect discription of the typical American ..and I think are lack of courage and concern is going to lead us down basically the same road as the Germans
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When the Reichstag burned down, most Germans simply refused to believe suggestions that the fire had been staged by Hitler himself. They were afraid to. But so trapped were the Germans by their belief in their own bravery that they willed themselves to be blind to the evidence before their eyes, so that they could nod in agreement with Der Fuhrer while still imagining themselves to have courage, even as they avoided the one situation which most required real courage; to stand up to Hitler's lies and deceptions. .
Some people think that the Bush and his administration is directly responssible for 9/11 hard for some to even comtemplate...
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When Hitler requested temporary extraordinary powers, powers specifically banned under German law, but powers Hitler claimed he needed to have to deal with the "terrorists", the German people, having already sold their souls to their self-delusions, agreed. The temporary powers were conferred, and once conferred lasted until Germany itself was destroyed.
this sounds so familar homeland security, changing of the constitution and the so called terror threat
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When Hitler staged a phony invasion from Poland, the vast majority of the German people, their own self-image dependant on continuing blindness to Hitler's deceptions, did not question why Poland would have done something so stupid, and found themselves in a war. .
Iraq anyone...wasn't it the Taliban in Afganistan the was suppose to be responssible for 9/11..so why did we go to Iraq
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But Hitler knew he ruled a nation of cowards, and knew he had to spend the money to make the new war something cowards could fight and win..
yep and Iraq is certainly a war we can win , they have no army...just people rebelling to get the the attackers out of their country!!
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As I mentioned above, Hitler was TIME Magazine's Man Of The Year in 1938. Stalin was TIME Magazine's Man Of The Year for 1939 and 1942. Both of these men, and many others also celibrated by the media, were unimaginable monsters. The lesson from these facts is that it isn't easy to spot a genocidal tyrant when you live with one, especially one whom the press supports and promotes...
hmmmm wasn't Bush TIME Magazine's Man Of The Year
the simularities are staggering
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hello angelharp42
I read your post and felt your pain..your concerns are the same as most Americans, lack of health care there is no such thing as job security anymore thats a fact, there is only job mobilty and hopefully if your lucky you have the skills to keep you one step ahead and on the move
your husband probably got laid off from his awful factory job because he was about to get benifits, this is common policy now days most companies will find something to fire you over or lay you off if your due to get benifits
welcome to the brave new world..I think most people feel it even the ones who want to stay delusional who want to stay sealed in their bubble..somehing is not right its not the common not right its something more and some us can't articulate it but we feel it deep down and strong, and truth be told we are probably powerless to stop it. but we can recognize that something is not right and try to brace ourselves and cushion ourself from the blow..the only way we can do it is by being aware and knowing whats coming because pretending that its not happening isn't going to help
Its time to give up the Myth America isn't really a Democracy it never really has been,..this country has always been based on Ecomomy Capitalism...and a Capitalist society always needs a low wage worker or slave labor which is how America got to become so rich in the 1rst place..if it had not been for the New Deal social programs and Unionization of Workers in this Country at the beginning of this 20th century..Capitalism in this country probably wouldn't be here today at the turn of the century things were pretty bad and that was during a time when most Americans didn't live in urban centers and were pretty self sustaining as indiviuals and family units thats no longer the case now with the destruction of social programs we are turning into what America was at the beginning of the century but without the fringe benfits so to speak.. most people don't own their own homes or farms most people live in Urban centers and depend on the state of the economy for their lively hood..slowly but surely alot of us are beginning to feel the lack of humanity in our government system..some of us are feeling it sooner then others but I have no doubt that its going to touch all but the very rich..thats how its set up thats how Capitalism succeeds..the American Dream for most Americans is just that a dream ..the reality for most of us is being drones and if where lucky making it to the middle class..( middle class breeds contentment ) which is fast on its way to becoming exstinct..soon there will be only the poor and the rich..and thats when even Capitalism will come to an end. Inorder for Capitalism to succeed people have to have money to consume the poorer people become the less money they will have to spend to buy goods companies will go out of business as a result and we will be something else..facist America??? Slaves ..a Militarized society...all 3 wrapped into one.
its an old story..really but its a new one for most of us..try and be brave and face the new world thats coming our way!!
thanks for letting me wax based on whats happening in our country this the only outcome that I can see!!
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5 bush hate-speech posts in an hour... You are a busy little hate monger...
I don't agree with bush on a lot of levels...
I do agree with his economic policy.
being a small business owner (read NOT BIG BUSINESS) I feel his actions make my company more viable and in turn more capable to hire "you poor common folk"
please understand that America is based on a constitutional republic: The government is based on rules set forth by the founding fathers. Your Socialized medical, Socialized retirement, and Socialized society is not in our constitution.
and those stating the America is not the greatest country in the world. Please inform me which one is... I want to live there!
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Piratejenny, you talk a lot of dark, mean stuff. Be more like some of the others who feel no need to understand facts or history or junk like that.
Seriously, though.I remember bullies in junior high, sometimes they beat up a jerk who deserved it, but more often they beat up someone weaker to take thier lunch money.My point is that it starts small.And people in this country concentrate on big things...the destruction of the World Trade center...the capture of Saddam...and they don't see the cold hungy child wondering why it's parents are gone (and why should they? It's not thier fault!). Truth can be unsettling; it's better to be simple-minded.
On a lighter note, quotes from movies and tv for the people who need entertainment with thier illumination:
"Im here to fight for truth, justice and the American way." " you'll end up fighting every elected official in this country." -SUPERMAN
"The only thing that counts in the end is power. Naked merciless force!" -BENETH THE PLANET OF THE APES
"Fear will keep the local systems in line..." -STAR WARS
"Now America's just another broke ex-superpower, lookin' for a handout and wondering why." -DARK ANGEL
"Governments are just for gettin' in a mans' way." -FIREFLY
My heart goes out to Angelharp42. Thanks to her for making it real.
Chrisisall
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My German wife states that although there isn't an exact match between Nazi Germany and the US today, there are enough parallels to be very frightened and concerned.
So, instead of dismissing such claims, you guys should really start accepting the possibility that these ideas are correct and looking into how correct they are. NOTE: The world isn't black and white, so don't expect every answer to be like that. Shades of grey people.
Please note that just because someone says the US today is like Nazi Germany, doesn't mean that they are stated it is exactly the same. It just means that there are enough similarities to warrent concern that the US today is headed in the same direction with potentially similar outcomes.
Given the above, it is actually quite difficult (I'll go as far to say impossible) to make a case that such things aren't going on now. I cite history as my proof.
Now it's just up to you guys to do something about it before something really bad happens.
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Originally posted by Kenadak:
and those stating the America is not the greatest country in the world. Please inform me which one is... I want to live there!
Although "best" is something that is subjective, there are many markers that people look to for being "best" when considering the "best" country. ie poverty, quality of education, etc. NOTE: These are things that the US doesn't do well in.
If you look to the UN for there studies on the "best" country to live in, that would be (from memory) Finnland. But in fact all Scandinavian countries did very well.
Also, the only reason why the US ranked at all in these studies is because of all the tech companies in (basically) California. So, it has a high level of inovation in that industry. Take that away and the US plummets down the list.
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"Canada being mad at you is like Mr. Rogers throwing a brick through your window." -Jon Stewart, The Daily Show
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If we are living in a fascist state, then show me evidence of it. I'm very easy to convince of just about anything, if you have conclusive evidence or at least evidence.
So far, I've not seen anything but rants about how much Conservatives don't agree with Postmodern Liberals. Contrary to what some Liberals seems to think, this does not make us a fascist state.
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