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Elections; 2024

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Sunday, June 25, 2023 5:27 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

You'd be surprised, Theodore.

A lot of women, believe it or not, aren't on board with en masse murdering of babies.

If you elect Trump, you will get a national ban on abortion. No state will have legal abortion, no matter what the majority of that state wants. Such a Federal law would be upheld as Constitutional by the Republican-controlled Supreme Court.

Donald Trump marked the one-year anniversary of the end of Roe v. Wade by adopting new language and endorsing the idea of national abortion restrictions.

Trump, who has previously discussed abortion as more of a state issue, told the cheering members of the Faith and Freedom Coalition "I will fight for you like no president ever" on the abortion issue.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2023/06/24/donald-trump-n
ews-national-abortion-restrictions/70353464007
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Why stop with banning abortion? Ban Disney. Make it a Federal law that climate change is a hoax. Declare war on Ukraine if it refuses to surrender to Putin. Trump said he could end that war in one day and that's the fastest way to do it.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, June 25, 2023 7:47 PM

Trump says Democrats are "executing babies after birth" in one of his wildest speeches

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-says-democrats-are-execu
ting-babies-after-birth-in-one-of-his-wildest-speeches/ss-AA1ahVie


Trump's “FINAL BATTLE”

The ranting about “communism” from Trump and the right is unsettlingly familiar.

In 1945, Dönitz (Hitler's political successor) sounded exactly the same as the leaders of the Republican Party today. Here’s what Trump recently said again:

“At the end of the day, either the Communists destroy America, or we destroy the Communists.” (Trump is calling Democrats Communists)

And here are more of Dönitz’s words:

“It is my first task to save the German people from destruction by the Bolsheviks.”

It’s tough to know how exactly to feel about this. It may be the case that ultra-right wing political rhetoric always reaches this destination, but only occasionally explodes in a farrago of mass murder.

https://web.archive.org/web/20230625122133/https://theintercept.com/20
23/06/25/trump-communism-red-scare
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, June 26, 2023 4:49 AM

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Originally posted by second:
Trump says Democrats are "executing babies after birth" in one of his wildest speeches



Where have you been. This extreme has actually happened. It's the reason you lost Roe v Wade in the first place.

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Tuesday, June 27, 2023 7:21 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by second:
Trump says Democrats are "executing babies after birth" in one of his wildest speeches



Where have you been. This extreme has actually happened. It's the reason you lost Roe v Wade in the first place.

Trumptards' "reality" is fake all the way. But then that is expected since Trumptards want and need to be fooled:

The Con Artists Who Blame Ukraine Aid for America’s Social Problems

RFK Jr., Glenn Greenwald, and other Putin apologists are making disingenuous, pseudo-populist arguments against U.S. support for Ukraine.

A scene of squalor unfolds as the camera moves along a city street lined with apparent drug addicts to the soundtrack of Childish Gambino’s “This Is America.” A caption reads, “While American citizens live on the streets and take drugs not to feel the pain, the United States would rather finance a proxy war against Russia,” while a bar graph says the U.S. has sent $46.6 billion in military aid to Ukraine.

The video, on TikTok, is but one of the countless posts across social media that convey the same underlying message: By helping Ukraine defend itself from bloody subjugation by Russia, the U.S. is depriving its own citizens of critical aid. This pernicious narrative has spread in part thanks to fringe yet popular media and political figures who already had a history of littering the discourse with Kremlinesque talking points, and who now have weaponized and monetized the perception that the U.S. has been too generous to Ukraine and too stingy to its own people.

More at https://newrepublic.com/article/173902/ukraine-war-cost-russian-propag
anda-rfk-jr-greenwald


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, June 27, 2023 8:12 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by second:
Trump says Democrats are "executing babies after birth" in one of his wildest speeches



Where have you been. This extreme has actually happened. It's the reason you lost Roe v Wade in the first place.

Trumptards'



Invalid reply to the argument.

Try again.


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Tuesday, June 27, 2023 8:37 PM

The GOP Is Scrambled On Its Anti-Abortion Message

The right to abortion is only getting more popular among voters. The GOP candidates are only getting more extreme.

It was clear which candidate was being pressed to further specify his position on federal abortion legislation.

It’s Donald Trump. And to be blunt, it is hard to believe that Trump, on a personal level, gives a shit about abortion. (We’ll leave it to others to speculate about his personal history with the practice.)

And yet the former president has had a successful transactional relationship with the religious right. He nominated loads of judicial candidates, up to and through the Supreme Court, who’ve spent every waking moment of their lives dreaming of ending legal abortion. These judicial picks delivered the religious right the win that had been its central policy goal for 50 years: The overturning of Roe v. Wade, and the elimination of a constitutional right to an abortion.

Trump, of course, loves to take credit for delivering that victory.

“No president has ever fought for Christians as hard as I have,” Trump said in his own speech at the conference. “I got it done, and nobody thought it was even a possibility.”

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/06/abortion-trump-desantis-pe
nce-political-stances.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, June 27, 2023 10:03 PM

Supreme Court strikes down chaos in election rules

The Supreme Court has backed away from madness:

The Supreme Court on Tuesday rejected the theory that state legislatures have almost unlimited power to decide the rules for federal elections and draw partisan congressional maps without interference from state courts.

....The “independent state legislature theory” holds that the U.S. Constitution gives that power to lawmakers even if it results in extreme partisan voting maps for congressional seats and violates voter protections enshrined in state constitutions.

The vote was 6-3, which is closer than it should have been for this wacky idea, but at least it went down in flames. The whole thing was based on a shiny new conservative theory that when the Constitution says election rules shall be "prescribed in each state by the legislature thereof," then by God that's exactly what it means: the legislature and nothing but the legislature. Governors can't veto election laws and courts can't overturn them, as they can for all normal laws. The Founders meant this by deliberately omitting "legislature and laws thereof," or some such, from the Elections Clause.

It was ridiculous from the start, but it's been gaining steam in right-wing circles ever since Florida courts intervened in Bush v. Gore two decades ago.

If today's Court had gone along, it would have meant, for example, that the Florida Republican legislature could have unilaterally decided the 2000 election. It would mean North Carolina could enact its most egregious gerrymandering fantasies with no judicial review. It would mean absolute authority to set rules for things like voter ID laws and absentee voting no matter how ridiculous or racially tinged.

So we dodged a bullet and 6 justices on the Supreme Court demonstrated some common sense and respect for 200 years of freely accepted precedent. But 3 justices went bonkers -- stark raving mad. https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/22pdf/21-1271_3f14.pdf Starting on page 39, Justice Thomas proves he is an idiot with a large vocabulary, using the word "moot" over and over to persuade readers that the other 6 justices are wrong, wrong, wrong.

https://jabberwocking.com/supreme-court-strikes-down-chaos-in-election
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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THG
Tuesday, June 27, 2023 10:31 PM

Jack Smith has email from top Trump aide calling stolen election claims 'BS'

Even Donald Trump’s inner circle didn’t buy the former president's claims that the 2020 election was rigged, according to a mountain of evidence built by Special Prosecutor Jack Smith.

Emails and interviews gathered from multiple members of Trump’s team suggest that many knew the election fraud claims were a lie even as they pushed them, a Washington Post report on Smith's investigation into efforts to overturn President Joe Biden's election revealed.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/jack-smith-has-email-from-top-
trump-aide-calling-stolen-election-claims-bs/ar-AA1d6OfD?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=9ef6218572184fbf926859cbef20a8ef&ei=19




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Wednesday, June 28, 2023 5:19 AM

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Originally posted by THG:
Jack Smith has email from top Trump aide calling stolen election claims 'BS'

Even Donald Trump’s inner circle didn’t buy the former president's claims that the 2020 election was rigged, according to a mountain of evidence built by Special Prosecutor Jack Smith.

Emails and interviews gathered from multiple members of Trump’s team suggest that many knew the election fraud claims were a lie even as they pushed them, a Washington Post report on Smith's investigation into efforts to overturn President Joe Biden's election revealed.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/jack-smith-has-email-from-top-
trump-aide-calling-stolen-election-claims-bs/ar-AA1d6OfD?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=9ef6218572184fbf926859cbef20a8ef&ei=19




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It was rigged through en masse unsolicited mail in fraud ballots and ballot harvesting in blue and swing states.

You didn't close that loophole like I told you that you should have.

Republicans and Trump have now embraced it and are going to cheat better than you ever could.


Should have been on the right side of history and agreed with me when you had a chance, Ted.

I'm now looking forward to you spending 2025 whining about how unfair the elections of 2024 were.



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Wednesday, June 28, 2023 5:10 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Republicans and Trump have now embraced it and are going to cheat better than you ever could.

Love your attitude about Trump's potential cheating, 6ix. How do you feel about Trump's potential incest?

Wed, Jun 28, 2023
Exclusive: Trump Made Shocking Comments About Ivanka, Says Ex-Staffer

"Aides said he talked about Ivanka Trump's breasts, her backside, and what it might be like to have sex with her," a new book by Miles Taylor says.

By Khaleda Rahman | Senior News Reporter

Taylor, a former chief of staff at the Department of Homeland Security, describes several incidents that made women in the Trump administration uncomfortable in his upcoming book 'Blowback: A Warning to Save Democracy from the Next Trump', an extract of which was obtained exclusively by Newsweek.

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-ivanka-naked-sexism-miles-taylor
-book-nyt-anonymous-1809187


Once Trump is President, nothing can stop him from living out his sexual fantasy . . . A Vote For Trump Is A Vote To Live Shamelessly . . . And You Will Never Pay Taxes Again! (the other Trump fantasy)

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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