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Elections; 2024

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Tuesday, June 20, 2023 4:43 PM

If either party can claim both the White House and Congress in next fall’s elections, there’s a huge prize for the taking: Unchecked power to reshape taxes for millions of Americans.

Much of the GOP’s sweeping Trump-era tax breaks are set to expire in 2025, which will almost certainly push Congress to act on their future. So the 2024 campaign will determine whether Republicans can keep the cuts, Democrats can rewrite them — or, if neither party gets a clean sweep, whether a split government prompts a massive fiscal collision.

The ability to mold the country’s tax structure may not ever become the primary focus of the presidential campaign or the battle for Congress. Yet both Democrats and Republicans are actively strategizing over how to handle the very real consequences of the tax cliff.

First, though, one party has to try to win it all.

”Anything at this point would be a wish list. Because it depends on what happens in 2024. It’s huge stakes,” said Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.). “You almost have to win all three branches: House, Senate and presidency.”

Both the House and Senate could remain closely divided in two years, but remaking tax policy can happen with simple majority votes thanks to congressional budget rules. That’s how a 50-50 Democratic Senate managed to impose a new corporate minimum tax last year, and how a 52-48 GOP Senate passed 2017’s massive tax law. It’s enough to raise the stakes of every single congressional campaign next year, because one or two House or Senate seats could make the difference between tax gridlock or one party rewriting the entire code.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/06/19/tax-code-2024-elections-00102
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Tuesday, June 20, 2023 6:09 PM

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Tuesday, June 20, 2023 6:22 PM

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Christie on Trump: Worst manager in the history of the American presidency





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Tuesday, June 20, 2023 6:45 PM

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Originally posted by second:

A woman in a hot-air balloon was lost, so she shouted to a man below, "Excuse me. I promised a friend I would meet him, but I don't know where I am.”

"You're at 31 degrees, 14.57 minutes north latitude and 100 degrees, 49.09 minutes west longitude," he replied.

"You must be a Democrat,” the woman shouted back.

"I am. How did you know?" said the man.

"Because everything you told me is technically correct, but the information is useless, and I'm still lost. Frankly, you've been no help,” the woman replied.

"You must be a Republican,” answered the man.

"Yes. How did you know?" she said.

“Because,” the man replied, “you’ve risen to where you are due to a lot of hot air, you made a promise you couldn't keep and you expect me to solve your problem. You're in exactly the same position you were in before we met but somehow now it’s my fault.”

https://twitter.com/rcdewinter/status/1669584953502253063






Yep, she is a victim. What goes wrong in her life is always someone else's fault. Sounds like Trump. Sounds like Jack.

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Tuesday, June 20, 2023 8:42 PM

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Yep, she is a victim. What goes wrong in her life is always someone else's fault. Sounds like Trump. Sounds like Jack.



Explain how. I want specific details justifying your statement that I come off as a victim.

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Tuesday, June 20, 2023 9:11 PM

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Originally posted by THG:

Yep, she is a victim. What goes wrong in her life is always someone else's fault. Sounds like Trump. Sounds like Jack.

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There is an essay on what Fascism is.

The people who have good things to say about Trump or Russia are aligned with what Fascists are.

“Everyone is sure they know what Fascism is,” writes Robert Paxton in his 2004 work The Anatomy of Fascism. Paxton gives perhaps the most comprehensive definition I have found, collapsing into one very long sentence many traits of Fascism:

“Fascism may be defined as a form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation, or victim-hood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy, and purity, in which a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites, abandons democratic liberties and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing and external expansion.”

The Jan. 6 coup attempt changed Paxton's mind about whether Donald Trump and Trumpism can be called Fascist. That brought Paxton into line with scholars such as Jason Stanley, who deems Fascism “a political method” that can appear anytime, anywhere, if conditions are right. This line of thought risks emptying the term of its historical specificity but is essential for understanding our new authoritarian age and the risks we face in America today.

https://lucid.substack.com/p/what-is-fascism

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, June 20, 2023 9:44 PM

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Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by THG:

Yep, she is a victim. What goes wrong in her life is always someone else's fault. Sounds like Trump. Sounds like Jack.

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There is an essay on what Fascism is.

The people who have good things to say about Trump or Russia are aligned with what Fascists are.

“Everyone is sure they know what Fascism is,” writes Robert Paxton in his 2004 work The Anatomy of Fascism. Paxton gives perhaps the most comprehensive definition I have found, collapsing into one very long sentence many traits of Fascism:

“Fascism may be defined as a form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation, or victim-hood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy, and purity, in which a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites, abandons democratic liberties and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing and external expansion.”

The Jan. 6 coup attempt changed Paxton's mind about whether Donald Trump and Trumpism can be called Fascist. That brought Paxton into line with scholars such as Jason Stanley, who deems Fascism “a political method” that can appear anytime, anywhere, if conditions are right. This line of thought risks emptying the term of its historical specificity but is essential for understanding our new authoritarian age and the risks we face in America today.

https://lucid.substack.com/p/what-is-fascism

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



OK, Fascist.

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Wednesday, June 21, 2023 12:15 AM

Trump is now up 2.4 points over Biden in the General Election polling aggregate.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2024/president/us/general-ele
ction-trump-vs-biden-7383.html




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Wednesday, June 21, 2023 3:44 AM

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Trump is now up 2.4 points over Biden in the General Election polling aggregate.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2024/president/us/general-ele
ction-trump-vs-biden-7383.html

Good. Independent voters will slowly realize Trump ran his mouth like the defective person he is.

Trump’s Fox News interview was a defense attorney’s nightmare

In a tense Fox News interview on Monday, Trump’s statements reinforce the charges against him.

Trump clashed repeatedly with Baier on other subjects, as he was pressed regarding falsehoods about the 2020 election results and critiques from members of his former administration. Below are four takeaways from their contentious conversation.

https://www.vox.com/politics/2023/6/20/23767291/trump-bret-baier-fox-n
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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