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Russia Invades Ukraine. Again

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Thursday, May 25, 2023 11:19 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

How do you know that? Do you know the stance of every possible Putin successor, the Duma, the military, various political parties, and the Russian people?

No, of course you don't. But that doesn't keep you from making shit up and pretending it's real.

According to some analysts, if Putin is gone people who are more hardline will take his place.

Who are you kidding, Signym? Ukraine is old man Putin's hobby. With Putin gone, the next person will find another entertainment that is not so expensive and dangerous. Putin's parents were severely traumatized by WWII, while my parents were enriched and had wonderful life experiences during the war. If the next Russian in charge is young, rather than another elderly old fart such as Putin, and hasn't been traumatized like Putin, he won't continue Putin's mentally ill amusements in Ukraine.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, May 26, 2023 12:32 AM

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Ukrainian Intelligence Says It’s Trying to Kill Putin

... In the first month of the war, then-Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett engaged Putin and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in talks that nearly ended the war. The peace talks were blocked by Washington, but Putin pledged not to target Zelensky with any assassination attempts during those talks. The Kremlin appears to have upheld that agreement until the most recent attempt on Putin’s life.
It is unclear if Moscow will continue to abide by the pledge.
Zelensky has spent several weeks outside of his nation, traveling to allied countries and meeting with his counterparts.


https://news.antiwar.com/2023/05/24/ukrainian-intelligence-says-its-tr
ying-to-kill-putin
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One of the younger guys in the lineup behind Putin ...

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Russia’s Medvedev calls for Zelensky to be killed amid Putin assassination attempt claims
by Joel Gehrke, Foreign Affairs Reporter
May 03, 2023 03:53 PM

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky should be killed, a top ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin [Medvedev] suggested after the Kremlin claimed to have foiled a Ukrainian attack.

“After today's terrorist attack, there are no options left other than the physical elimination of Zelensky and his clique,” Kremlin Security Council Deputy Chairman Dmitry Medvedev, a former Russian president under Putin, wrote on social media.


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/defense-national-security/me
dvedev-calls-for-zelensky-assassination


You know nothing, SECOND, and everything you post is shitcan material bc is comes from a shitcan brain.


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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

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THG
Friday, May 26, 2023 1:51 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Trying to drag the thread off topic again, troll?
The more you post, the more hideous you look.


Oh BTW, I'm not at all embarrassed about my dx. I just wanted to avoid your trolling. (Which, predictably, you did and continue to do.) You OTOH should be very embarrassed by your own posts.







As with everything always wrong comrade, your most recent posts here are backwards at best, Ukrainian war casualties, or just plain bullshit.

T

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Friday, May 26, 2023 2:28 AM


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Trying to drag the thread off topic again, troll?
The more you post, the more hideous you look.

Oh BTW, I'm not at all embarrassed about my dx. I just wanted to avoid your trolling. (Which, predictably, you did and continue to do.) You OTOH should be very embarrassed by your own posts.


THUGR: As with everything always wrong comrade, your most recent posts here are backwards at best, Ukrainian war casualties, or just plain bullshit.



Well, THUGR, unlike SECOND'S unproveable posts about such evanescent topics like subconscious motives, national character etc at least your particular post deals with reality: numbers killed, weapons destroyed, and (eventually) square miles controlled and NATO status of Ukraine (in whatever form it winds up) at the end of the SMO.

Time will tell who's right. The question is, will you admit it if you're wrong?

EDITED TO ADD: Also, no open-ended timeclocks ticking away.

One day, the USA empire will fall. I'm confident of that. One day, the Russian government will change. I'm confident of that, too. But I don't know if it will happen in my lifetime, or yours.



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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

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Friday, May 26, 2023 7:08 AM

Who is Viktor Yanukovych, the former Ukrainian president Putin reportedly wants to put back in power?
by Jeremy Kahn

Who is Viktor Yanukovych?

The 72-year-old Yanukovych was Ukraine’s president from 2010 until he was ousted in February 2014 following widespread protests over his decision to reject the country’s agreement to align itself more closely with the European Union, with an eye toward future membership in the bloc, and instead pursue a Russian financial bailout package and tighter ties to Moscow.

Many Ukrainians and many international civil society groups had also criticized Yanukovych for running a corrupt administration, including charges that he embezzled funds from the government. (Yanukovych has denied he misappropriated government money.) He favored a small cabal of wealthy Ukrainian business tycoons, including his own son, Oleksandr Yanukovych, and members of his extended family. He also amassed a large personal fortune.

Despite having worked for most of his life as a mid-level business executive and then as a civil servant and politician, Yanukovych lived an extravagant lifestyle. His lavish estate on the outskirts of Kyiv, called Mezhyhirya, featured a giant wooden mansion with a pure copper roof, a private zoo, an underground shooting range, tennis courts, a bowling alley, and an 18-hole golf course.

Donbas origins and political rise

Born to a poor family in Donetsk Oblast, in the heavily Russian-speaking region of Donbas, Yanukovych was a trucking and transportation company manager before being appointed vice head and then head of the Donetsk Oblast regional government in 1996 and 1997.

Ukrainian President Leonid Kuchma appointed Yanukovych the country’s prime minister in 2002 and his appointment was confirmed by the country’s legislature, the Verkhovna Rada, by a slim majority. He was viewed as pro-Russian, although he publicly stated that he supported Ukraine eventually joining the EU. His cabinet also agreed to send Ukrainian soldiers to support the U.S.-led coalition in the 2003 Iraq War, although it had come out against Ukraine seeking NATO membership.

In 2003, Yanukovych ran for president, drawing much of his support from the southern and eastern areas of Ukraine, which were traditionally seen as more pro-Russian. In the first round of voting in late October, no candidates passed the 50% threshold to be elected, so a runoff election was held a month later. In that vote, Yanukovych was declared the winner, but the election was marred by widespread allegations of fraud made by both Ukrainian civil society groups and international election monitors.

This resulted in two months of sustained protests, civil disobedience, and general strikes, a period that became known as Ukraine’s Orange Revolution. (The protesters had adopted the orange election campaign colors associated with Yanukovych’s opponent, Viktor Yuschenko.) The Ukrainian Supreme Court declared the election void and ordered a re-vote for late December 2004, in which Yuschenko was declared the winner.

Immediately after Yuschenko’s victory, Ukraine’s parliament passed a nonbinding no-confidence motion against Yanukovych’s government and urged the outgoing president, Kuchma, to appoint a caretaker government. Instead, Yanukovych resigned, saying later that he did so to avoid any political violence.

Following his resignation, Yanukovych led the main parliamentary opposition party against the coalition government headed by then Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko. At the same time, Yunokovych’s political party, called the Party of Regions, moved explicitly closer to Russia, signing a formal collaboration agreement with the Russian political party United Russia.

Second presidential campaign

In 2009, Yanukovych ran for the Ukrainian presidency again, ultimately defeating Tymoshenko, the other main candidate, in a February 2010 runoff. Initially, Yanukovych said Ukraine’s integration with the EU was the country’s “strategic aim,” but he continued to say that Ukraine should not join NATO and that the country shoul

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Friday, May 26, 2023 7:58 AM

OMG a veritable wall of bullshit from SECOND that I won't bother to read.

Hey SECOND, you can't POSSIBLY have a critical job bc you sure spend a lot of time posting on fff.net!

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Friday, May 26, 2023 4:52 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
OMG a veritable wall of bullshit from SECOND that I won't bother to read.

Hey SECOND, you can't POSSIBLY have a critical job bc you sure spend a lot of time posting on fff.net!

Reality is too fast and bothersome for Signym and 6ix so they have withdrawn, except for medical appointments and grocery shopping.

Russia conducted another massive Shahed-131/136 drone strike across Ukraine on the night of May 24 to 25. Ukrainian military sources reported that Russian forces launched 36 Shahed-131/136 drones at Ukraine from the northern and southern directions and that Ukraine shot down all 36 of the drones.[36] Russian milbloggers claimed that some of the drones reached their intended targets through rear areas of Ukraine, including Kyiv Oblast.[37] Ukraine’s Southern Operational Command noted on May 25 that Ukraine has destroyed 357 Shahed-type drones since Russia began using them in 2022.[38] The White House reported on May 15 that Russia has purchased over 400 drones (primarily Shaheds) from Iran since August 2022.[39] The suggestion that Ukraine has shot down 357 Shahed drones since August 2022 is likely inflated—Ukrainian officials may sometimes count drone crashes due to user error or technical malfunction as official shoot downs, so the actual number is likely to be somewhat lower.

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-may-25-2023


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, May 26, 2023 6:19 PM

Russia's fearsome S-400 air-defense missiles are getting unexpected missions as Moscow struggles in Ukraine

¦ Russia's S-400 is a highly regarded weapon designed to intercept a variety of aircraft and missiles.

¦ In Ukraine, expensive S-400 interceptors are being used against rocket artillery and ground targets.

¦ Repurposing S-400s for those missions is a sign of Moscow's struggle to turn the tide of the war.

This isn't the first time surface-to-air missiles have been used for other purposes. Egyptian forces fired them at Israeli tanks during the 1973 Arab–Israeli War. But anti-aircraft missiles aren't meant to fired at tanks or cities. For Russia's military, which has long touted its tactics and technology, having to misuse S-400s is a sign things aren't going well.

A 400-pound warhead may be devastating against an aircraft or another missile, but it is actually small compared to the 2,000-pound warhead on a cruise missile like the Russian Kh-22.

Surface-to-air missiles can only be a terror weapon because they're very inaccurate in a surface-to-surface role, Williams said of repurposed missile/aircraft interceptors.

https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-using-s400-air-defense-missiles
-to-attack-ground-targets-2023-5


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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THG
Friday, May 26, 2023 7:25 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

OMG a veritable wall of bullshit from SECOND that I won't bother to read.

Hey SECOND, you can't POSSIBLY have a critical job bc you sure spend a lot of time posting on fff.net!





Hey comrade signym, the spring offensive is beginning.

tick tock

T

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Friday, May 26, 2023 8:42 PM

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Originally posted by THG:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

OMG a veritable wall of bullshit from SECOND that I won't bother to read.

Hey SECOND, you can't POSSIBLY have a critical job bc you sure spend a lot of time posting on fff.net!





Hey comrade signym, the spring offensive is beginning.

tick tock

T





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