In the garden, and RAIN!!! (2)
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UPDATED: Monday, September 7, 2026 11:50
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Both my nutritionist and online said that 1 cup of brown rice is 40-45 grams of carbs, with the fiber content making it effectively 40.
NOT MINE!!!!
Serving size is 1/4 cup. THERE IS 32 GRAMS OF CARBS AFTER YOU SUBTRACT THE 2 GRAMS OF FIBER!!!!!!/
Er ... not necessarily, SIX.
Nutrition labels on things like uncooked beans, rice, and oatmeal (and more exotic products like quinoa, wheat berries, barley, and amaranth) sometimes list as "dry" (uncooked) and sometimes as cooked. And, unfortunately, sometimes they're not explicit which one they're referring to. Since rice, beans, oats etc. approximately double in volume ... triple, if you cook with a lot of water and fluff it up ... it's harder to list an exact COOKED nutrition bc so much depends on how it was cooked.
What is probably listed is 1/4 c dry uncooked rice, which, when cooked, will yield somewhere is the realm of 1/2-3/4 cup rice. A cup of their COOKED rice will be in the realm of 40-60 grams net carbs, depending on how it was cooked. Either about the same as what you found, or 20 grams more. Kind of crazy-making when you're trying to figure out how much starch you're putting in your mouth since who the hell ever cooks just 1/4 c of anything, or measures how much volume yield from cooking a whole cup of something? It's frustrating!
I don't mind zapping one serving of oatmeal in the mwave so I can calculate those carbs easily, but beans take hours and hours to prepare, and who the hell is going to cook 1/4 cup of beans for 2 hours? Been back and forth on the inet and the best I can do is come up with a sort of overall average (except for garbanzos, which are relatively high net carbs). Same thing with rice.
Rice tends to be a "starch bomb" for hubby... it drives his sugar up hugely, even when I limit his serving to the point where it's barely worth putting in his plate. But the infamous "they" say that if you pair it with beans, it won't reduce the overall net carbs bu it WILL slow dow the absorption and prevent those blood suagr surges.
FWIW I tend to cook with less water for less time than package instructions bc I like my rice, beans and oats to be firmer bc I'm often adding them to something else and I don't like them falling apart, so MY cooked stuff is a bit more nutrient-dense than what you would normally find online as "cooked")
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Er ... not necessrily, SIX.
Nutrition labels on things like uncooked beans, rice, and oatmeal (and more exotic products like quinoa, wheat berries, barley, and amaranth) sometimes list as "dry" (uncooked) and sometimes as cooked. Since rice, beans, oats etc. approximately double in volume ... triple, if you cook them with a lot of water and fluff it up ... it's harder to list an exact COOKED nutrition bc so much depends on how it was cooked. (FWIW I tend to cook with less water for less time than package instructions bc I like my rice, beans and oats to be firmer bc I'm often adding them to something else and I don't like them falling apart, so MY cooked stuff is a bit more nutrient-dense than what you would normally find online as "cooked")
What is probably listed is 1/4 c dry uncooked rice, which, when cooked, will yield somewhere is the realm of 1/2-3/4 cup rice. A bit more carbs for less volume than what you've been told but not off by multiples. Kind of crazy-making when you're trying to figure out how much starch you're putting in your mouth since who the hell ever cooks just 1/4 c of anything, or measures how much volume yield from cooking a whole cup of something? It's frustrating!
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The label I have doesn't specify cooked or uncooked. It just says that 1/4 cup is a serving and that there are 34 grams of carbs - 2 grams of fiber.
I just looked at Minute instant rice and it does say that 1/2 cup dry makes about 1 cup cooked. But even still, it claims that 1/2 cup dry and 1 cup cooked is equal to 39 grams of carbs - 2 grams of fiber, which is roughly half of what the Nishiki rice is when they say 1/4 cup of rice is 36-2.
So I didn't know that when I'm told 1/2 cup of rice = x amount of carbs they meant AFTER cooking... So I was already doubling my carb intake right there. But when the brand I'm using is nearly twice as carb dense as another brand, that means as much as 4 times what I thought it would be.
It was more like 3.2 times as much, but I went into it thinking 60 grams and it turned out to be 190+.
Thanks for the info. They shouldn't label it that way, IMO and should just tell you what the nutritional value of things are UNCOOKED so you don't have to do additional figuring. Stupid, stupid.
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Minute rice/instant rice has been already cooked, and then dried. You can tell by the individual grains bc they're kind of crumbly, whereas regular rice is very hard.
"They" try to make things easy by giving you the "ready to eat" nutrition, but dry weight is a more reliable number.
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Out for my walk in the rain and I don't want to drag my umbrella with me. Need a couple of things and to return something to the library.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Minute rice/instant rice has been already cooked, and then dried. You can tell by the individual grains bc they're kind of crumbly, whereas regular rice is very hard.
"They" try to make things easy by giving you the "ready to eat" nutrition, but dry weight is a more reliable number.
I think it varies by brand. The Nishiki brand I get says 1/4 cup is 36-2. There's no way that's the AFTER cooked info, otherwise you'd be cooking 1/8th of a cup of dry rice.
Maybe all the brands do this, but the generic info online just says the cooked measurement. My nutritionist didn't make a differentiation between the two either. Maybe everybody just assumes that everybody else would assume the cooked measurement and I went to dry weight just because, like you said, it's a more reliable number.
I've got a TON of rice to go through. At this rate, it will last me the next 2 years if I ate it every night.
I may consider giving a lot of that away too. It doesn't do me a lot of good as filler anymore because the quantity I can consume without taking obscene amounts of insulin beforehand turns out to be almost nothing. I may as well be eating pizza or something I enjoy more and get more mileage out of my insulin.
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I'm down to 210 right now after insulin and lunch. It's slowly been making its way down from the mid 240s from before lunch.
I'm going to be going to my friend's tonight for dinner and hanging out. Hopefully I can do this right while on the road. I really need to get this under control so I can start waking up with good numbers and then seeing how my workout effects the numbers.
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Have a good evening SIX.
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Back from my walk and I got rained on. Oh well. I will remember my umbrella tomorrow.
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Have a good evening SIX.
We did, thanks Brenda.
We had dinner then we went fishing for a few hours. I caught ten fish with his daughter's fishing pole. Crappies and Blue Gills. He was using my blue gills as bait and got himself a real nice large mouth bass with one of them right after he caught the biggest crappie he's ever caught in his life. It had to be over 4 lbs. I didn't even know they got that big.
I overestimated how much insulin I'd need for dinner there and thankfully I picked up some glucose chewables for my kit because I needed 6 of them while we were out fishing. Man, it's going to be hard figuring that out when I'm not at home measuring everything myself. I still dipped low when I was at his house, so I ate some chips and a few mini-cookies they had instead of wasting that extra insulin on more chewable tablets. But of course, I over-compensated the other way and went too high.
I was running around 60 to 85 for about 4 hours there, and after the chips and cookies I spiked up to 236 and now I'm back down under 210.
The good news is that I'm not feeling sick when I get around 75-80 anymore, but I really felt it when I got down to 60-70. Also good is that even though I spiked over 200 it was still not that high over 200 and I won't be going to sleep tonight in the 300's.
Once we got back to his place we played a few games of pool and watched a movie. They sent me home with more food again.
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Quote:It sounds to me like you're doing a remarkable job figuring this out SIX. Just keep a plastic bag of cookies with you and a few glucose tablets and you should be OK.
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Originally posted by Brenda:
Have a good evening SIX.
We did, thanks Brenda.
We had dinner then we went fishing for a few hours. I caught ten fish with his daughter's fishing pole. Crappies and Blue Gills. He was using my blue gills as bait and got himself a real nice large mouth bass with one of them right after he caught the biggest crappie he's ever caught in his life. It had to be over 4 lbs. I didn't even know they got that big.
I overestimated how much insulin I'd need for dinner there and thankfully I picked up some glucose chewables for my kit because I needed 6 of them while we were out fishing. Man, it's going to be hard figuring that out when I'm not at home measuring everything myself. I still dipped low when I was at his house, so I ate some chips and a few mini-cookies they had instead of wasting that extra insulin on more chewable tablets. But of course, I over-compensated the other way and went too high.
I was running around 60 to 85 for about 4 hours there, and after the chips and cookies I spiked up to 236 and now I'm back down under 210.
The good news is that I'm not feeling sick when I get around 75-80 anymore, but I really felt it when I got down to 60-70. Also good is that even though I spiked over 200 it was still not that high over 200 and I won't be going to sleep tonight in the 300's.
Once we got back to his place we played a few games of pool and watched a movie. They sent me home with more food again.
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