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BSG: Newbie Needs Some Help

POSTED BY: Fifinella
UPDATED: Tuesday, February 8, 2005 17:48
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Saturday, February 5, 2005 6:14 PM

I've been watching the new Battlestar Galactica on SF. I've never seen the original or the miniseries and I missed the first couple of eps this season. So here are a couple of things I need explained:

1) What is Caprica? Where is it in relation to the fleet? Who are the people stuck there, and how did they get stuck without anyone knowing?

2) What is the deal with the doctor and the blond woman? Is she real? A Cylon? Why can't anyone else see her and how did she get there?

If someone could get me clued in, that would be great. I've enjoyed most of it, but I'm tired of trying to piece together what I've missed.

thanks.

Fifinella

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Saturday, February 5, 2005 6:30 PM

1) What is Caprica? Where is it in relation to the fleet? Who are the people stuck there, and how did they get stuck without anyone knowing?

Caprica is one of the twelve colonies that the Cylons attacked, and basically wiped out with multiple high-yield nuclear strikes.

In the mini-series, after the attack, Boomer and Helo were flying recon overwatch for a squadron of Vipers that got wiped out by Cylons. They ran, got clipped by a missile, and had to put down on Caprica for repairs. While there, they picked up a small number of refugees. Helo gave up his seat on Boomer's Raptor to allow Gaius Baltar to survive.

Boomer returned to Galactica. However, at the end of the mini-series, it was revealed that Boomer's a Cylon model, and that there are many of her. One of the Boomers, the one we first met in the mini-series, is on Galactica; another has been placed with Helo on Caprica. The Cylons have some unusual plan thing going which has to do with a human falling in love with a Cylon-human and having children together, which hasn't really been explained yet. That's what I'm guessing, anyways, from seeing Six's comments to Baltar.

2) What is the deal with the doctor and the blond woman? Is she real? A Cylon? Why can't anyone else see her and how did she get there?

The blond woman is Six, who Baltar knew back on Caprica before the Cylon attack. She manipulated his government and social connections to get access to the Colonies' defense mainframe and his navigation program, which allowed the Cylons to launch their massive strike. Additionally, it allowed the Cylons to use electronic warfare to disable any ship utilizing Baltar's navigation program. Anyways, she revealed to him that she was a Cylon model shortly before the attack.

After that point, he started having... visions. Hallucinations. Of her. There's some debate as to whether her presence with him is due to an implant, a religious experience, or simply his brilliant mind starting to crack up under the pressure. :)

Other places, though, like on Caprica, she's definitely real.

I hope that helps.

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Saturday, February 5, 2005 6:38 PM

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However, at the end of the mini-series, it was revealed that Boomer's a Cylon model, and that there are many of her.


Not to complicate things any,but it seems I'm a bit slow here...do we know that the Boomer on Caprica isn't the real Boomer, and all others are just copies of the original? Better still....IS there a real human Boomer ? Is/ was she a member of the Galactica , and IF so, where is she ?

- OR - ..did a real, human Boomer NEVER exist, and the thing that became a Galactica pilot was nothing but a cyclon all along?

Hope I made that clear w/ out being too redundAnt.

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Saturday, February 5, 2005 6:41 PM

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Originally posted by Fifinella:
1) What is Caprica? Where is it in relation to the fleet? Who are the people stuck there, and how did they get stuck without anyone knowing?

2) What is the deal with the doctor and the blond woman? Is she real? A Cylon? Why can't anyone else see her and how did she get there?

If someone could get me clued in, that would be great. I've enjoyed most of it, but I'm tired of trying to piece together what I've missed.

1) A: Caprica is the name of the human home world which was invaded, conquered and is now occupied by Cylons. The fleet is the last remnant of refugees from Caprica.

I don’t know who the people are who are stuck there or how they got stuck there, though I imagine they just missed the boat when the refugees fled the Cylon invasion.

2) A: No clue. I was never actually able to finish watching the miniseries.

In the memorable words of Lorne Greene (the first Commander Adama):
“Fleeing the Cylon tyranny, the last battlestar, Galactia, leads a rag-tag fugitive fleet on a lonely quest. A shining planet, known as... Earth.”

ADD: I can see others have been more helpful then me. So yeah, they're probably right.

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Saturday, February 5, 2005 6:44 PM

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In the memorable words of Lorne Greene (the first Commander Adama):
“Fleeing the Cylon tyranny, the last battlestar, Galactia, leads a rag-tag fugitive fleet on a lonely quest. A shining planet, known as... Earth.”



Which many years later, would be referred to as 'Earth that was.'

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Saturday, February 5, 2005 7:00 PM

Just an aside on last night’s episode: I was a big fan of the original Starbuck played by Dirk Benedict, so I’ve really had a problem with this recasting of Starbuck as a woman, until this last episode where she crashed onto a planet with a Cylon raider. Those of you who remember the original will recognize right away that this is a retelling (in part) of the story in which Starbuck (the first) crashed onto a planet with a Cylon and ultimately befriended the Cylon out of a need for survival. For those of you who don’t remember the original BSG, you should see the similarity now if you’ve see this last episode.

I have to admit I really bonded with the new Starbuck in this episode. Seeing this familiar story retold with so much more passion and I might add realism, put this new Starbuck in almost a side-by-side comparison with the old Starbuck, and much to my surprise, except for the issue of gender, they are the same Starbuck that we all know and love.

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Saturday, February 5, 2005 8:43 PM

If you want to catch up on missed episodes, SciFi is re-airing ALL of them on this coming Teusday (Feb. 8th)!

If you REALLY want to catch up, I suggest buying the miniseries DVD. It's worth every penny for the three-hour intro to this great series, and will answer many of your questions! It's available on amazon.com - that's where I got it, and I'm so happy to have it. Hmm, I think it's time to watch it again...

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Saturday, February 5, 2005 9:05 PM

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Originally posted by GreenFaerie:
If you REALLY want to catch up, I suggest buying the miniseries DVD. It's worth every penny for the three-hour intro to this great series, and will answer many of your questions! It's available on amazon.com - that's where I got it, and I'm so happy to have it. Hmm, I think it's time to watch it again...



Help me, I'm stuck in Stupidville. I just searched Amazon as you suggested on Battle Star Galactica, and just Galactica and all I find is:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00064AFBE/qid=110763648
5/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-2369942-3588629?v=glance&s=dvd


which says it's the 2003 "pilot" for the proposed series - not a miniseries. But maybe that's exactly what you're talking about.... dunno, whaa.

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Saturday, February 5, 2005 9:08 PM

Oh yeah, I had a full day pass to Stupidville... I just read the BOLD top description from the link I provided, the one that says, "MINI SERIES" - so NEVERMIND! I got it!

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Saturday, February 5, 2005 10:36 PM

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However, at the end of the mini-series, it was revealed that Boomer's a Cylon model, and that there are many of her.




Not to complicate things any,but it seems I'm a bit slow here...do we know that the Boomer on Caprica isn't the real Boomer, and all others are just copies of the original? Better still....IS there a real human Boomer ? Is/ was she a member of the Galactica , and IF so, where is she ?

- OR - ..did a real, human Boomer NEVER exist, and the thing that became a Galactica pilot was nothing but a cyclon all along?

Hope I made that clear w/ out being too redundAnt.



That's one of the great things about this incarnation of BSG, nobody's explaining these things. We viewers are left with a lot of maybes. Anyhow, if you see a Boomer (character's named Sharon Valerie, actress Grace Park) you can assume she's a cylon. Trouble is, the human looking cylons may not even know they are a cylon themselves. They could be sleeper agents totally unaware they are cylons until they are activated to execute missions.

The unconfirmed intimation is that there never was a human woman named Sharon Valerie, there was just the cylon.

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