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Saturday, April 15, 2023 11:04 PM

Another laundry day for me once I get a move on. Then a walk in the wet. It's not raining right now but it has been.

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Sunday, April 16, 2023 3:09 AM

Back in from the rain.

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Sunday, April 16, 2023 7:55 PM

I seem to have stabilized my weight between high 146 and high 147lbs.

I'm not eating a ton of food right now, but that's mostly because a lot of the food I still have is stuff I probably don't need to be eating in large quantities and I need to start stocking up on things that will jibe with my new lifestyle.

I've cut the peanut butter out of the diet entirely and need to give the three remaining large jars I have away, but I'm not about to give away 6 large bags of cereal and 1.5 gallons of whole milk on top of it.

I think the daily working out I'm doing is also keeping me from retaining weight from what I eat as well.

And the thirst is still way down, but I did get up several times last night. I'm waking up up thirsty and after doing my business I'm usually somewhere in the 146.5lbs range, and making my way up to barely over 148 max the last few days.

The body is looking super tight, and the crunchies I've incorporated into the daily workouts are already evident as there wasn't any fat around that area to cover them in the first place.


IBS is BAD though. Not all the time, but when it's there, it's BAD.

Overeating seems pointless at this juncture. I just don't think my body is doing much with the food at all. Everything I thought I knew about weight loss and weight gain needs to be thrown right out the window because nothing makes sense anymore right now. If I eat a lot, all that means is that I'm going to drop a deuce so large that I'll clog the toilet. (That's something I've NEVER done before and used to give my brother crap for when he'd come visit and do it several times, but now it's happened to me three times in two weeks).

At least I'm not losing any more weight now though. That's the big positive here. After getting down to 156lbs without even knowing I was losing weight, and then losing another 13lbs after eating my ass off every day with little physical activity, you don't even know how good it feels to step on that scale everyday and be at least 3lbs heavier than the lowest I had gotten. Especially when most of my energy is back and I don't feel all run down and "floaty" anymore.


Hopefully Dr. Endo has some more insight on Tuesday and some ideas on how I can safely gain weight without going overboard. Most times and most days since I started taking the medicine I'm high energy and around 90% of what I was before all this started, but I feel like even with the pills I am probably not processing some of this food I'm trying to eat instead of throw out.

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Sunday, April 16, 2023 8:04 PM

If you have the time, Sigs. I'd like to hear your thoughts on the previous reply.

Also, if you have a list of things I can eat that don't require prep (or very minimal prep) and are CHEAP I'd appreciate that too. I'm not much of a cook, and I don't really see that changing in the near future.

But I need some filler during the day and all of my go-to filler stuff is things I really can't be eating anymore.

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Sunday, April 16, 2023 11:34 PM

Just a wet Sunday around me and later I will check on something I had written for my book. As I can't remember where I left off on it.

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Monday, April 17, 2023 3:06 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I seem to have stabilized my weight between high 146 and high 147lbs.

I'm not eating a ton of food right now, but that's mostly because a lot of the food I still have is stuff I probably don't need to be eating in large quantities and I need to start stocking up on things that will jibe with my new lifestyle.

I've cut the peanut butter out of the diet entirely and need to give the three remaining large jars I have away,

Not necessarily.

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but I'm not about to give away 6 large bags of cereal
that you might want to give away. Or work thru it very very slowly.
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and 1.5 gallons of whole milk on top of it.
If you drink 2 8 oz cups a day it will be gone in 12 days.

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I think the daily working out I'm doing is also keeping me from retaining weight from what I eat as well.

And the thirst is still way down, but I did get up several times last night. I'm waking up up thirsty and after doing my business I'm usually somewhere in the 146.5lbs range, and making my way up to barely over 148 max the last few days.

The body is looking super tight, and the crunchies I've incorporated into the daily workouts are already evident as there wasn't any fat around that area to cover them in the first place.


IBS is BAD though. Not all the time, but when it's there, it's BAD.

Overeating seems pointless at this juncture. I just don't think my body is doing much with the food at all.

Why fo yiu think that?
Do you get tired trying to do normal activities like your projects?
Are you trying to gain weight and/or put on muscle?

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Everything I thought I knew about weight loss and weight gain needs to be thrown right out the window because nothing makes sense anymore right now. If I eat a lot, all that means is that I'm going to drop a deuce so large that I'll clog the toilet. (That's something I've NEVER done before and used to give my brother crap for when he'd come visit and do it several times, but now it's happened to me three times in two weeks).

At least I'm not losing any more weight now though.

So, basically youre at some sort of equilibrium between the food yiy eat the the food you either absorb or waste, which is good.

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That's the big positive here. After getting down to 156lbs without even knowing I was losing weight, and then losing another 13lbs after eating my ass off every day with little physical activity, you don't even know how good it feels to step on that scale everyday and be at least 3lbs heavier than the lowest I had gotten. Especially when most of my energy is back and I don't feel all run down and "floaty" anymore.


Hopefully Dr. Endo has some more insight on Tuesday and some ideas on how I can safely gain weight without going overboard. Most times and most days since I started taking the medicine I'm high energy and around 90% of what I was before all this started, but I feel like even with the pills I am probably not processing some of this food I'm trying to eat instead of throw out.




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Monday, April 17, 2023 3:31 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
If you have the time, Sigs. I'd like to hear your thoughts on the previous reply.

Also, if you have a list of things I can eat that don't require prep (or very minimal prep) and are CHEAP I'd appreciate that too. I'm not much of a cook, and I don't really see that changing in the near future.

But I need some filler during the day and all of my go-to filler stuff is things I really can't be eating anymore.



Well, part of the answer depends on WHY you need filler.

Are you looking for snacks between meals bc you get hungry?
Do you like to have a full stomach when you've finished eating?
Are you looking for a cheap source of calories for weight gain?

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It seems to me you have three possible goals:

Keep your blood sugar down
Gain weight and muscle
Eliminate diabetes meds(?)


In order to access energy from sugars and starches, you need insulin, and your insulin needs to be working effectively. If you could make more insulin and/or get it to work better, you could achieve both objectives at the same time. That's what metformin and other diabetes meds do. But then you'd be committed to taking meds for the foreseeable future. If you're OK with that, that's your answer. You can keep eating starches, but your meds might have to be increased to keep your blood sugar in bounds.

You CAN add chromium picolinate which (for some) improves insulin sensitivity. I tried taking 300 mcg a day, and it made my insulin SO effective it drove my blood sugar into the basement, so I stopped taking it.
https://www.drugs.com/mtm/chromium-picolinate.html
Cinnamon has a few studies showing that a teaspoon a day might help.
https://www.webmd.com/diabetes/cinnamon-and-benefits-for-diabetes

So one possible answer is: keep eating what you're eating but have your doctor increase your meds.

Another possibility is keep eating what you're eating but take supplements that might help you use sugars and starches better.

If you want food VOLUME, then raw vegetables (peppers, radishes, carrots, cauliflower etc) are low starch and bulky and are tummy-filling.

In order to put on weight, there is one source of energy that you don't need insulin to access, and that's fat. Vegetable oils, peanut butter (hopefully without sugar), nuts, full fat cheese etc are all low-starch sources of fat.

If you find your energy sagging between meals, you might want a starch that is absorbed and reakeased more slowly. Canned beans (plain, no bbq sauce) and oatmeal come to mind. If you have a microwave they're easy to cook/heat.

I'm assuming you have enough protein in you diet for muscle-building, but if your ideal weight is about 160 well-muscled pounds, most nutritionists would recommend about 10 oz lean cooked meat (beef, pork, chicken, turkey) which I estimate means starting out with slightly less than a pound of lean trimmed meat.day, a pound, to make it easier to measure.

So lots of possibilities, depending on what you're aiming for and can tolerate.

Did that help?


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Monday, April 17, 2023 8:27 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Well, part of the answer depends on WHY you need filler.

Are you looking for snacks between meals bc you get hungry?
Do you like to have a full stomach when you've finished eating?
Are you looking for a cheap source of calories for weight gain?



YES.

Also, even though I have been pretty low key most days until we get this figure out, I do a LOT of work that burns off calories even if I'm not working out. I'd like to make sure that under no circumstances I am losing any more weight than I already have. My body fat is almost nil at this point, and so far any overeating I've done is just keeping up with my minor working out and whatever metabolic shenanigans are going on ATM.

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It seems to me you have three possible goals:

Keep your blood sugar down
Gain weight and muscle
Eliminate diabetes meds(?)



Yes, yes and hopefully I can do the first two while also getting the third done as well.


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In order to access energy from sugars and starches, you need insulin, and your insulin needs to be working effectively.


I should know more about Insulin levels and production after the visit with Dr. Endo on Tuesday. I would assume I have to have at least SOME production of it going on.

I think after the blood work went to the hospital we've eliminated the idea that I had hyperthyroidism in tandem with diabetes, but follow ups here aren't exactly great. Hopefully nothing else is going on. Maybe the endocrinologist can tell me why I fart all the time and it smells like death.




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If you could make more insulin and/or get it to work better, you could achieve both objectives at the same time. That's what metformin and other diabetes meds do. But then you'd be committed to taking meds for the foreseeable future. If you're OK with that, that's your answer. You can keep eating starches, but your meds might have to be increased to keep your blood sugar in bounds.


I'm okay with that. At least for now. I'm hoping we can get me on a time release once per day thing though. I've been good about taking them on time so far, but I've never been good at making sure I take anything that's more than once a day after some time. The only thing keeping me doing it right now is the memory of how bad things had gotten when I didn't have the pills.

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You CAN add chromium picolinate which (for some) improves insulin sensitivity. I tried taking 300 mcg a day, and it made my insulin SO effective it drove my blood sugar into the basement, so I stopped taking it.
https://www.drugs.com/mtm/chromium-picolinate.html
Cinnamon has a few studies showing that a teaspoon a day might help.
https://www.webmd.com/diabetes/cinnamon-and-benefits-for-diabetes



I'll look into both of these. Thanks!

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So one possible answer is: keep eating what you're eating but have your doctor increase your meds.

Another possibility is keep eating what you're eating but take supplements that might help you use sugars and starches better.

If you want food VOLUME, then raw vegetables (peppers, radishes, carrots, cauliflower etc) are low starch and bulky and are tummy-filling.

In order to put on weight, there is one source of energy that you don't need insulin to access, and that's fat. Vegetable oils, peanut butter (hopefully without sugar), nuts, full fat cheese etc are all low-starch sources of fat.



Except for peanuts, nuts are EXPENSIVE. It's crazy how much sugar is in nuts too. I can wolf a 6oz down in one sitting, but that's 6 grams of sugar right there, even though there aren't any added sugars. I didn't even know peanuts had sugar until yesterday.

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If you find your energy sagging between meals, you might want a starch that is absorbed and reakeased more slowly. Canned beans (plain, no bbq sauce) and oatmeal come to mind. If you have a microwave they're easy to cook/heat.

I'm as

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Monday, April 17, 2023 1:58 PM

Hubbys diabetes is hard to control, and HE eats starches. Beans for bfast, oatmeal for snack (along with peanuts and raw veggies), meat and veggies for dinner and fruit and sugar-free pudding for dessert. So it's not like you have to go entirely without starches and sugars. Unfortunately, they have to be limited.



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Monday, April 17, 2023 7:33 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Hubbys diabetes is hard to control, and HE eats starches. Beans for bfast, oatmeal for snack (along with peanuts and raw veggies), meat and veggies for dinner and fruit and sugar-free pudding for dessert. So it's not like you have to go entirely without starches and sugars. Unfortunately, they have to be limited.



I've got a lot to learn... Hopefully I get some guidance by the professionals going forward since it's been you who's given me the only guidance I've had so far. As far as I know, only one other living person in my bloodline has ever had diabetes, and I've only seen him in person maybe 5 times in my life. It's my Dad/Aunt's cousin. According to my aunt, he doesn't do any of the things he's supposed to be doing, so I'm pretty sure he wouldn't be able to tell me much. Usually my dad is real good about these things, but he's got no experience with diabetes.


I think it's the loss of water weight since I'm not drinking nearly as much as I used to and I make a REAL effort not to drink much when I get up at night, but after doing my business this morning I'm back down to 145.6. That's the first time since I started taking the pills that I've been under 146. And that's despite the fact I ate more brown rice last night than I've been eating.

I'd planned on maybe making a few chicken breasts too, but I fell asleep before I got around to doing it.



I almost wonder if being skinny with diabetes is going to be more difficult than if I were fat with diabetes.

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