Mean Girls In Shindig

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FIREFLEW

Sunday, October 3, 2004 5:01 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Static:
Is it my imagination. . .or is the fact that we only have 14 episodes to discuss causing us to WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY OVER THINK EVERYTHING?????

Gorramit I want my movie.

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"Wash. . .we got some local color happening. A grand entrance would not go amiss."

Well you know, they give us so little to work with for over-analysation. I recall a thread that focused mainly on food-tin labels and what possible links that could have with River's craziness.
(Non-spoiling hint for those who read French: Blue Sun.)
(Non-spoiling hint for those who don't read French: le soleil bleu.)
(Bilinguists: you're smart enough, you figure it out.)

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Jayne: "Know what the chain of command is? It's the chain I beat you with till you understand who's in command."

GAVIDA

Friday, October 8, 2004 11:14 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Static:
Quote:
Originally posted by whispering:
I'm a bit confused, i'm not that good in english but i think that mean girl was referring to the buffet table.

Kaylee: ...Theres some kind of hot cheese there.
Mean Girl: It's not as good as last year.
Kaylee: Oh, what did they have last year?
Mean Girl: Standards...
Kaylee: Oh...

Actually. . .look at the COMPLETE context. . .

K: Isn't this the greatest party? Everyone's so fancy. . .and there's some kind of hot cheese over there.

MG: It's not as good as last year.

See. . .Kaylee's original statement was about the party as a whole.

I have to agree with Whispering here, I see the conersation as made regarding to the buffet and the food.
Like some snobby high-class people who get the fancy food every day thinking it was a "fun" thing to have "standards" (standard food rations) at a party because it is kind of "exotic".

And therefor the "Oh" reply, since to Kaylee it is the normal thing and the fancy food is the cool stuff.

Keep flying,
Gavida

JOE

Friday, October 15, 2004 4:14 AM

No, this is definitely about the class of people attending the party (ie, that Kaylee was allowed in).

With upper class snob like those girls, social standing is /everything/.

They're the type of people who read The Daily Mail and make a fuss over "family values" when they encounter something they don't like (blacks, gays, poor people, shops open on sundays etc).

It's all about the fact that their social standing is diminished because Kaylee is at the same party as they are. In their eyes. the party isn't exclusive enough, and thus, is not really worth attending.

The big thing about it is you can't escape your class. Kaylee will always be working class, no matter how much money she earns or who she marries and thus will always be unsuitable and inferior in their eyes.

It's the class system that has been in place in this country for over 1500 years and is still going today, from the lower classes, working class, through the middle classes, upper middle class and upper classes (landed gentry and royalty etc).

My parents are working class, and will always be, but I am technically middle class since I went to university and have a degree and good education (although I identify as working class).

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http://jo-ham.com - engineers think just that little bit differently

SETALLE

Friday, October 15, 2004 3:19 PM

I never figured they were talking about Standards with a capital S. I always thought it was something more like, you know, the standards, the same stuff as usual. Which, since she didn't elaborate showed Kaylee that they didn't think she was welcome, 'cause since she didn't really know, they knew that she wouldn't have normally been at one of these parties. Probably not really what was going on there, but it seemed to make sense at the time!

YT

Friday, October 15, 2004 11:20 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by IlGreven:
Well, she did have another insult, directed at Kaylee herself, which she started "You should see your girl,"

That was a different girl (of the same group of four), though there is no doubt in my mind that

a) the two that spoke were each deliberately insulting Kaylee, and

b) they were all enjoying that Kaylee was too unsophisticated to know that.

In defense of their society, the girls may have felt justified in insulting Kaylee because she spoke to them without being introduced. It is clearly a significant faux pas, as when Kaylee did the same (just previously) to a man, he bowed to her and walked away without saying a word. Clark Gable (I used to think he'd died) & Miss Persephone illustrate that more experienced & worldly gentlemen can overlook a violation of societal rules due to innocence of those rules. But I'm sure that Clark introduced Kaylee to each of the other gentlemen with whom she is speaking.

Keep the Shiny Side Up

YT

Friday, October 15, 2004 11:33 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Static:
Is it my imagination. . .or is the fact that we only have 14 episodes to discuss causing us to WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY OVER THINK EVERYTHING?????

Just your imagination. Personally, I never overthink anything, 'though I might have used a few fewer Ys, and maybe one or two less ?s.

Keep the Shiny Side Up

YT

Friday, October 15, 2004 11:36 PM

and your Caps Lock key seemed to get stuck, on the second line.

REAVERINA1985RIVIERA

Saturday, February 5, 2005 7:27 AM

They were indirectly (but deliberatly) insulting Kaylee's inteligence, family history, education, upbringing, social status, and taste in clothes.

All in three sentences.

I really don't like those girls. Any one who is mean to sweet little Kaylee deserves this:

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You don't argue with a Reaver.

MYDOGISDEAD

Friday, March 25, 2005 1:34 AM

Hey has any one got a thing for Kaylee?.

In shindig not only she came out on top of those
wussy girls, but she can out talk any engineer in the room.
I bet she even has a faint whiff of WD40 (engine lubracant), which I find a turn on.

later
mydogisdead
who likes brainy girls

Sometime you want shoes but don`twant to pay the price of your sole

EMBERS

Friday, March 25, 2005 1:42 AM

the crack about Kaylee having bought her dress instead of having it hand made by her seamstress
(which is evidently what the cool girls do there)

is a lot like Cordelia's line to Willow:
"I see you've found the softer side of Sear's"

which was actually Cordy's scariest moment IMO,
right up until that second she had seemed nice....
(she wasn't as scary in Ats S4)

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