Is Enterprise cancelled?
POSTED BY: CrevanReaver
UPDATED: Thursday, March 17, 2005 14:57
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There's no way this was the last outing of the Star Trek Brand.
Money Money Money........MONEY!
Enterprise was..... an idea that worked at times but was FAR to silly at others. I know non-Trek people were bothered by the song and by the fact that it looked better than the original series even though it was set before it.
What bothered me more was that stupid blue room which was just an excuse to show the women in their panties. This says a lot to me about the shows problems - it started off by reaching for the mass (Fox?) audience in L'eu of pushing with what makes 'Trek work.
They got over that recently with the new writers but the problem is that at this point there were a lot of people unwilling to give the show a chance.
Those Tivo stats are scary when you think about it - but they'll be read as "only wealthy men who own Tivo care about this space crap".
A new franchise will definitly come along in the next couple of years - hopefully moving into more of a DS9 kind of show - not like it like it (set on a space station or land base or whatever) but in the way that it tried to put an original tone into the existing Star Trek universe. Enterprise felt to much like Voyager at times. Having said that, I'm aware DS9 took over 3 series before it got good, let alone really good.
Long time since I did a 'net rant about Star Trek.
I truely am a nerd.
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Here is the official press release.
http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/news/article/9469.html
What makes it especially heatbreaking is that this was turning out to be a really great season.
At least they delved a little more into Trek lore this season. Most notably with how Vulcan culture changed between the 22nd and 23rd centuries, the roots of the Federation and with the upcoming explanation as to what happened the Klingon ridges. I knew the people behind the show were told last year that this would likely be the last season, so they made sure to close a lot of story arcs. The story with the Klingon ridges is something that I and most other Trekkies have been waiting see for many years.
Hopefull fan protest can get them to make a few TV movies using the Enterprise cast, perhaps they can get into the Earth-Romulan War.
Here's a site that might help that happen.
http://www.saveenterprise.com/
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IMHO, the idiots Berman and Bragga are the reason the Star Trek franchise is so bad off these days. Enterprise was actually starting to look like mature Sci Fi this year, since Many Coto came onboard. I am old school, I remember watching ST TOS as a kid. It's just my opinion but I haven't thought anything "Star Trek" has been up to par until this years Enterprise.
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UPN moves the show, already with low ratings, to the Friday night of death time slot (how many other good shows have died because of the F-N-O-D??). Then, UPN expects the show to do better? Remind anyone of 
F(u)X?
I've watched every show for the series, and same for Voyager. I almost gave up on Voyager, and last season, same for Enterprise. Every once in a while, tho, a great ep would come along and really surprise me. For this season, the stories have really progressed to being more than just passable. I truly believe that Enterprise is better than Voyager, but they've been given less time to establish themselves, like Voyager and ST: TNG.
Still, you don't put one of your main shows on Friday night!
Would you call me a fanboy? As you wish. More a lover of great writing and acting, plus a lover of sci-fi in general.
Everyone dies alone.
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I'm disappointed too. I've actually been considering Enterprise to be the second-best Trek I've watched (after DS9, 'cause, frankly nothing beats DS9). I'm no expert, but I really think that Roddenberry would've been proud of this one.
At least I still have the novels to look forward too, but they're coming fewer and further between (especially in Canada, where we often just don't even get them in stores).
I'm genuinely scared that this could be a death knell for the franchise, and I don't want that. What attracted me to Star Trek in the first place was the idea of self-improvement. That it was possible to find something better in ourselves, and to build something better than this crap-hill 'verse we all seem to be stuck in.
Sadly, it's looking like that's become an unpopular idea. Most people don't even want to be better; they just want to be tougher, meaner, and richer than everyone around them. It's easier to think smaller, to say this is how it is, and how it'll always be, so we might as well forget about changing anything. Since when did giving up become a valid option? Star Trek is about the idea that intelligence, tolerance, and ethics are valuable on a cultural level, and not just individual character traits that we should be willing to abandon when necessary. Let's face it, we need that kind of reassurance, now more than ever.
Quote:*mental image of a swarm of Klingons invading Six Flags*
Originally posted by CrevanReaver:
with the upcoming explanation as to what happened the Klingon rides.
I assume you mean ridges, but thanks for the chuckle, regardless.
*wonders absently how to say "tilt-a-whirl" in Klingon*
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I think I have the anti-taste or something. this is the first season of Enterprise that I really like so far, and now it's the last. couln't they have NOT made the first 3 crappy seasons and maybe started at 4x03 and went on from there for 7 years?
there were maybe 5 EPs in all of season 1-3 that were worth watching but they could have been rescued into S4++ as well. I think about some cool Phlox EPs here mostly. at least they were fun and scifi.
and the guys and girls in underwear for absolutely no reason at all are kinda not so cool. I do love naked people on TV but not just for the sake of naked people on TV. just look at Trash and you know how to do it right.
but I was ranting about all of the trek-girls in catsuite since forever. it just never made any sense to me at all. military girls usually were the same thing the men were and it's practical that way and no one in real life gives a damn that it's not sexy. and just take a look at the early seasons of SG1 to see that a girl in military gear can be sexy/beautiful/desireable.
but then again I also rant about people sleeping in full make-up. and people who wouldn't wear make-up still wearing it on TV...
and people with street-shoes in beds. I don't knwo anyone who would NOT kick of their shoes when putting their feet on a bed. still in Buffy for instance there's almost no EP where no one sits on a bed with shoes on. that's just messy and no one would do it in real life and it's not an affront to viewers if they see actors in socks, is it?
I stop now, you get what I mean. ranting off topic as I am.
it's a sad thing about Enterprise. if they had canceled it after S3 I wouln't have said a word about it but now it's starting to get good, even if it's 'only' Trek where no one dies and nothing weird happens at least not for longer than one EP.
Idefix
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I have been reading people's comments on the demise of Enterprise and I wondered if anyone else thought that the crew didn't have great chemistry and if the captain didn't have the gravitas of Picard or Kirk. That is one of the reasons why the show never really grabbed me. Another reason is the one that everyone else has mentioned. I too wasn't grabbed by the story lines, especially during the second season.
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Originally posted by BruisersMom:
I have been reading people's comments on the demise of Enterprise and I wondered if anyone else thought that the crew didn't have great chemistry and if the captain didn't have the gravitas of Picard or Kirk. That is one of the reasons why the show never really grabbed me. Another reason is the one that everyone else has mentioned. I too wasn't grabbed by the story lines, especially during the second season.
For me, I gave up on Trek at Voyager. I watched the pilot, and nothing about the cast and crew made me want to stick around for episode 2. Had I had the option of watching that the next week, I might have given it more of a shot, but as it was it just drifted out of my viewing radar before it came on TV over here.
Did the same with Enterprise, although in that case the first "episode" was on the next week. The fact is, the characters and the universe failed to grab me.
Sure, its the Trek universe, but I've seen that before, two hundred fifty plus times. Their corners of that universe didn't tell me there was going to be anything new in them, so I couldn't care less.
"I threw up on your bed"
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One mistake people seem to keep making is comparing the first 3 seasons of Enterprise with the last 3 seasons of DS9.
The first 3 seasons of DS9/Voyager/TNG were absolute crap. Weak stories with even weaker acting (the acting in TNG was barely better than a prono).
"If wishes were horses we'd all be eating steak!!!"
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Originally posted by Cleaner:
One mistake people seem to keep making is comparing the first 3 seasons of Enterprise with the last 3 seasons of DS9.
The first 3 seasons of DS9/Voyager/TNG were absolute crap. Weak stories with even weaker acting (the acting in TNG was barely better than a prono)
Not me. Let's just fact check season's 1-3 of TNG and DS9 (we'll pass on seasons 1-3 of Classic Trek for obvious reasons and the fact that City on The Edge of Forever is the Royal Flush in this poker game) - they included episodes such as Measure of a Man, Yesterday's Enterprise, Duet, In the Hands of the Prophets, Captive Pursuit - the mirror universe and holo-deck episodes. Plus, Best of Both Worlds.
Seasons 1 and 2 of TNG had some bad stuff, but generally featured new ideas (save where the script writer's strike lead to them plundering the Trek 2 archives).
"I threw up on your bed"
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