What are America's interests?
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What are America's interests?
If Congress votes for it, it's likely not in America's interest.
If Congress votes against it, it's probably in America's interest.
The only thing that got strong bipartisan support in my lifetime that passed in the Senate was ending Daylight Savings Time. But they went right ahead and didn't even bother voting on it in the House so Biden* could sign it into law.
Now it's a new year, and the Senate would have to vote to push it through again so the House could just sit on it another year and it never gets done.
That just about sums up how bad the situation is.
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Quote:I agree. But I'd like more details on what,and why.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
What are America's interests?
If Congress votes for it, it's likely not in America's interest.
If Congress votes against it, it's probably in America's interest.
The only thing that got strong bipartisan support in my lifetime that passed in the Senate was ending Daylight Savings Time. But they went right ahead and didn't even bother voting on it in the House so Biden* could sign it into law.
Now it's a new year, and the Senate would have to vote to push it through again so the House could just sit on it another year and it never gets done.
That just about sums up how bad the situation is.
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Originally posted by Wishimay:
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You nailed it Brenda.
T
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Anyway, just to get back to societal survival and evolution for a moment: Societies don't have to do much to survive. They don't need to be particularly fair, or advanced. All they have to do is produce a next generation and have strong internal agreement on how it should function, share a common language, pass that on to the next generation.
In the long run they need to be strong enough to resist external aggression or subversion, in equilibrium with available resources for long-term sustainability, and resilient enough to recover from natural disasters. Ideally, they should not carry within themselves the seeds of their own destruction, or have measures in place that allow course correction.
It's easy for societies to survive in the short run, not so easy in the long run.
Each society isn't like an individual competing against other individuals in a Darwinian sense. Each society is like a species: adapted to it's environment and with its own strategy for survival. Some are primary producers. Some are predators. Some are both. Some depend on breeding like rabbits to survive high death rates. Others take more care of individuals. Some are weakened by internal parasites.
But there is a broad framework for short term (200- year) survival
Anyways, that's as far as I can go on that direction so far.
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Quote:. WISHIMAY and BRENDA are entirely separate posters. WISHIMAY lives in Indiana and BRENDA lives in British Columbia.
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THUGR: You nailed it Brenda.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:. WISHIMAY and BRENDA are entirely separate posters. WISHIMAY lives in Indiana and BRENDA lives in British Columbia.
Originally posted by THG:Quote:
Originally posted by Wishimay:
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You nailed it Brenda.
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Wow.
Do you think that Ted really didn't notice how different the both of them are?
It would explain a lot if he didn't.
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So, just to get to theory, looking at the question of "what are America's interests?" strating at the 50,000 ft level...
Given that there are a lot of societies possible that can survive, I have to start laying down parameters for us.
I ASSUME we want our nation to remain a democracy. I also assume we want our nation to be a free from eternal forces that we couldn't control.
So I define our society as the nation of the United States of America. I select this boundary because it is the largest boundary over which we have (theoretical) democratic input. We have no direct vote in any larger organizations like transnational banks, alliances, the United Nations, and trade agreements,
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Right now, I'm not worried about external threats to our country and our Democracy.
I'm worried about the enemy within.
Not only the powerful, mostly within the Democrat ranks and media, but the easily brainwashed half of the country that is giving them their power.
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Quote:Well, yes, I agree with you.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Right now, I'm not worried about external threats to our country and our Democracy.
I'm worried about the enemy within.
Not only the powerful, mostly within the Democrat ranks and media, but the easily brainwashed half of the country that is giving them their power.
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But I'm grnding on this bc I don't want to miss assumptions.
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So- SECOND, CAPN/ K(2)PO/ G, THUGR, and everyone else...
Can I assume that we want the ZUSA to be DONE form of democracy? Not have policies imposed on us by an external force or by a centralized technocracy/ bureaucracy?
Bc unless I read otherwise in some reasonable timeframe... say, a day... I'm going to assume that's what we want.
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