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Saturday, December 31, 2022 12:13 AM




TWO, the authorities have Trumps taxes. OH shit I can hear Trump saying. OH shit...

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Saturday, December 31, 2022 12:31 AM

The authorities have had Trump's 2016 taxes since 2017.

Trump doesn't give two shits.



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Saturday, December 31, 2022 11:37 AM

Looks like another dud, Ted...

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/12/30/trumps-tax-returns-released-by-house-w
ays-and-means-committee.html


Other than making fun of him for losing money, CNBC doesn't really have anything negative to say here.

In fact, it looks like they're even pivoting from the narrative and putting the onus on the IRS by saying this:

Quote:

The Democratic-led Ways and Means Committee said it wanted Trump’s tax returns as part of a probe of how the IRS audits presidential returns. The agency is required to audit the sitting president’s returns every year.


Just like I said all along, Trump will be fine.


NEXT!

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Monday, January 2, 2023 2:57 AM

Trump’s Taxes Are the Best Case Yet for Putting Him in Prison

Trump’s tax returns make a strong case for restoring the law that until 1924 made all income tax returns public. Newspapers back then ran long lists showing the income of and taxes paid by the wealthiest Americans.

Knowing that your income, deductions, and tax paid will be publicly available can do far more to encourage honest tax-paying than audits, which are increasingly rare and increasingly superficial.

Not even 500 of the nearly 25,000 households reporting incomes of $10 million or more in 2019 were audited. That’s 2 percent—just 1 in 50. Only 66 audits were completed.

People like Trump who earn money from legal sources can cheat like crazy on their tax returns with almost nothing to fear. That’s because fewer than 600 people at all income levels are convicted of tax fraud in a typical year.

That makes the odds of conviction about 1 in 275,000 taxpayers. But the odds for business owners are much better (which is to say less), because most people convicted of tax crimes are drug dealers, politicians who took bribes, or people who paid bribes.

The IRS, as funded by Congress, spent far more money auditing the working poor than the 24,457 households with incomes of $10 million and up in 2019. But don’t get angry at the IRS. They are just the tax police, enforcing the law as they are instructed by Congress. If Congress tells the IRS to focus on high-income tax cheating, it will.

A little-known reason the IRS rarely audits someone like Trump, even if there are indications of brazen fraud, is that if an audit will not raise any revenue immediately, it looks bad on IRS performance reports.

Consider a rich business owner who fabricates deductions but who would still owe zero tax in the audited year even if those deductions were denied. That means an audit that will not generate any tax revenue. That’s also what Trump apparently did in 26 sole proprietor, or Schedule C, filings in the six years of released tax returns.

Denying the immediate deductions may mean more taxes in future years, but the way the IRS measures audit performance, it doesn’t take future taxes into account. As a result, many working and retired IRS auditors have told me over the years, the IRS typically decides to audit other filers who are more likely to generate taxes immediately, allowing multi-year tax cheats to slip away.

More at https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-taxes-are-the-best-case-yet-for-p
utting-him-in-prison


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, January 2, 2023 3:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Trump’s Taxes Are the Best Case Yet for Putting Him in Prison

Trump’s tax returns make a strong case for restoring the law that until 1924 made all income tax returns public. Newspapers back then ran long lists showing the income of and taxes paid by the wealthiest Americans.

Knowing that your income, deductions, and tax paid will be publicly available can do far more to encourage honest tax-paying than audits, which are increasingly rare and increasingly superficial.

Not even 500 of the nearly 25,000 households reporting incomes of $10 million or more in 2019 were audited. That’s 2 percent—just 1 in 50. Only 66 audits were completed.

People like Trump who earn money from legal sources can cheat like crazy on their tax returns with almost nothing to fear. That’s because fewer than 600 people at all income levels are convicted of tax fraud in a typical year.

That makes the odds of conviction about 1 in 275,000 taxpayers. But the odds for business owners are much better (which is to say less), because most people convicted of tax crimes are drug dealers, politicians who took bribes, or people who paid bribes.

The IRS, as funded by Congress, spent far more money auditing the working poor than the 24,457 households with incomes of $10 million and up in 2019. But don’t get angry at the IRS. They are just the tax police, enforcing the law as they are instructed by Congress. If Congress tells the IRS to focus on high-income tax cheating, it will.

A little-known reason the IRS rarely audits someone like Trump, even if there are indications of brazen fraud, is that if an audit will not raise any revenue immediately, it looks bad on IRS performance reports.

Consider a rich business owner who fabricates deductions but who would still owe zero tax in the audited year even if those deductions were denied. That means an audit that will not generate any tax revenue. That’s also what Trump apparently did in 26 sole proprietor, or Schedule C, filings in the six years of released tax returns.

Denying the immediate deductions may mean more taxes in future years, but the way the IRS measures audit performance, it doesn’t take future taxes into account. As a result, many working and retired IRS auditors have told me over the years, the IRS typically decides to audit other filers who are more likely to generate taxes immediately, allowing multi-year tax cheats to slip away.

More at https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-taxes-are-the-best-case-yet-for-p
utting-him-in-prison


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two




Once again, this doesn't look like bad news for Trump, but a slam at the IRS.

A deserved slam.

One that sounds ALMOST FUCKING EXACTLY LIKE MINE when Democrats voted for 87,000 new IRS agents that are going to continue to terrorize the poorest people in this country while continuing to let the richest get away with paying nothing all the time.

You didn't seem to care then. I guess we finally got your attention, pig.

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Monday, January 2, 2023 5:17 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Once again, this doesn't look like bad news for Trump, but a slam at the IRS.

A deserved slam.

One that sounds ALMOST FUCKING EXACTLY LIKE MINE when Democrats voted for 87,000 new IRS agents that are going to continue to terrorize the poorest people in this country while continuing to let the richest get away with paying nothing all the time.

You didn't seem to care then. I guess we finally got your attention, pig.

6ix, when you read a story such as the following, do you conclude that President Trump should fire at least half of all IRS workers because they aren't collecting enough tax? Trump should know because he's not paying all of his taxes.

April 13, 2021

IRS chief says $1 trillion in taxes goes uncollected every year

The U.S. government is losing some $1 trillion in unpaid taxes every year and needs more and consistent Internal Revenue Service funding to go after tax cheats, IRS Commissioner Charles Rettig said on Tuesday.

Rettig told the Senate Finance Committee that the “tax gap” -- the difference between taxes legally owed and revenue collected -- has grown substantially since the last official estimate of a $441 billion annual average from 2011 to 2013.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-treasury-irs/irs-chief-says-1-t
rillion-in-taxes-goes-uncollected-every-year-idUSKBN2C0255


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, January 2, 2023 7:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Once again, this doesn't look like bad news for Trump, but a slam at the IRS.

A deserved slam.

One that sounds ALMOST FUCKING EXACTLY LIKE MINE when Democrats voted for 87,000 new IRS agents that are going to continue to terrorize the poorest people in this country while continuing to let the richest get away with paying nothing all the time.

You didn't seem to care then. I guess we finally got your attention, pig.

6ix, when you read a story such as the following, do you conclude that President Trump should fire at least half of all IRS workers because they aren't collecting enough tax? Trump should know because he's not paying all of his taxes.

April 13, 2021

IRS chief says $1 trillion in taxes goes uncollected every year

The U.S. government is losing some $1 trillion in unpaid taxes every year and needs more and consistent Internal Revenue Service funding to go after tax cheats, IRS Commissioner Charles Rettig said on Tuesday.

Rettig told the Senate Finance Committee that the “tax gap” -- the difference between taxes legally owed and revenue collected -- has grown substantially since the last official estimate of a $441 billion annual average from 2011 to 2013.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-treasury-irs/irs-chief-says-1-t
rillion-in-taxes-goes-uncollected-every-year-idUSKBN2C0255


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two




Fuck the IRS.

They're not going after the Billionaires to get that Trillion. They're going after people just scraping by. Those 87,000 new agents are agents of totalitarianism.


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Monday, January 2, 2023 3:15 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Fuck the IRS.

They're not going after the Billionaires to get that Trillion. They're going after people just scraping by. Those 87,000 new agents are agents of totalitarianism.

Every Trumptard I know brags about how well they are doing, but they also hint that they are "scraping by" which forces them to cut corners to get by, including cheating on their taxes. Little Tax cheaters voting for Trump the Big Cheater makes perfect sense.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, January 2, 2023 4:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Fuck the IRS.

They're not going after the Billionaires to get that Trillion. They're going after people just scraping by. Those 87,000 new agents are agents of totalitarianism.

Every Trumptard I know brags about how well they are doing, but they also hint that they are "scraping by" which forces them to cut corners to get by, including cheating on their
taxes. Little Tax cheaters voting for Trump the Big Cheater makes perfect sense.



That's not your argument. That's never been your argument when this topic comes up.

The IRS is supposed to be expanded so it can go after Trump and the Billionaires.

But every time I say that this is never what the IRS does, you punch down.

And most poor people vote Democrat, BTW.



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Wednesday, January 4, 2023 10:34 PM

TRUMP'S TAX RETURNS WERE RELEASED!

THIS TIME WE GOT HI......

Oh... Never mind.



Get fucked, Ted.

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