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Gavin (Noisome) Newsom's reparations

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Tuesday, December 6, 2022 3:45 AM

I had a nap. It was a good nap. It was a fine nap.



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Tuesday, December 6, 2022 9:36 AM

I figured I'd let a smart black woman explain these "reparations" to the stupid white dude going by the handle Second here. Ted gets a pass because for whatever reason woke race based issues is the only single problem he seems to have with his party...









KIRA DAVIS: The left's half-a-trillion-dollar slavery reparations fantasy is a woke joke - and an insult to every black American whose ancestors sought freedom from government, NOT more bondage to it

By Kira Davis For Dailymail.Com

Published: 10:42 EST, 5 December 2022 | Updated: 10:42 EST, 5 December 2022

Kira Davis is host of the podcast 'Just Listen to Yourself with Kira Davis' 



Black America's ancestors are turning over in their graves.

A California task force to 'study and develop reparations' is nothing short of a boondoggle.

A 500-page mess of social engineering, vague definitions, and impossible spending, not designed to address the important issue of racial wealth disparity, but to use handouts to hide the progressive left's true cynical objective – power and control.

At its core, this proposal views black people as infantilized, uneducated victims, who most certainly can't be trusted with the tools to improve their own lives.

It is an insult. A mirage. A distraction.

First, the black community cannot even agree on the fundamental question of who should receive reparations.

I'm a California resident and tuned into the task force's last meeting, which was marred by accusations of bias, discrimination and corruption.

Some advocated for anyone of black racial heritage — including immigrants and their descendants — to receive compensation, while others argued that only black American descendants of slaves should be eligible.

In the end, the committee determined that black residents who are descendants of either black slaves or 'free Black person[s] living in the United States prior to the end of the 19th century' would qualify.

This superficial progress was hailed as a victory, but scratch below the surface and it's clear that they've done little to advance the impossible dream of true racial reparations.

In fact, they may have set it back further.

Once upon a time, freed American slaves were promised 40 acres and a mule as compensation for their pain.

Freed slaves, for the most part, found the offer acceptable. The reason for this is simple – the only way to escape poverty is to accumulate wealth. Not cash. Wealth. And wealth requires ownership.

Understanding this, our ancestors from the era of slavery were content with the opportunity to work for their own families in pursuit of their own future, rather than continued forced servitude for the benefit of whites.

40 acres and a mule is what they were promised, but not what they received. The rest is history.

But now we see that the original promise of black American ownership has also been lost, replaced by the reparations task force's horrifying labyrinth of Black Lives Matters-inspired government committees, oversight, and social justice programs.

This committee is supposed to be the model for reparations across the country?

What a joke.

Their report focused on comparatively irrelevant issues like climate racism, discrimination in entertainment, and domestic violence caused by alleged white supremacy.

Rather than focusing on the legacy of slavery and segregation, the committee dedicated absurd amounts of attention to the health of black LGTBQ Americans.

More than 400 pages into the document, we're told black transgender 'women' are 'less likely to access healthcare' because of the 'legacy of enslavement.' Or that black LGBTQ Americans have also been found to have higher rates of diabetes, asthma, heart attacks, and cancer

I have not interviewed every single black person in America, but I can confidently say – as a black person – that if you asked a random person of color on the street what the purpose of repa

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Tuesday, December 6, 2022 4:21 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Who cheated blacks in real estate deals?

The banks?

Then make the banks pay, not the taxpayer.

That's what Obama (DNC Patron Saint) shoulda done in 2008. Instead he paid off the banks and let the people suffer.

Typical flimflam man.

The Bailout Tracker at Propublica says the Federal government made a profit of $109 billion as of Nov 2022 on the bailout:
https://projects.propublica.org/bailout/
That $109 billion in profits includes money paid back by bailed-out companies as well as revenue from dividends, loan interest, warrants, and other proceeds.

There is different estimate at MIT, but the entire academic calculation is trying to convince you that the government (if it had, instead, invested the bailout money on the stock market or for-profit loans or bonds) would have made a far bigger profit than $109 billion and, therefore, the Bailout must have lost money. Sorry to tell the professor, but the Federal government is not a for-profit business. Here is a little bit of the story: https://mitsloan.mit.edu/ideas-made-to-matter/heres-how-much-2008-bail
outs-really-cost


Here is a whole lot more, but you can read the entire paper:
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Table 2: Summary of Fair Value Bailout Costs

Institution vs Cost
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac $311 billion
Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) $90 billion
Federal Housing Authority (FHA) $60 billion
Federal Reserve $21 billion
Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. (FDIC) $10 billion
Small Business Lending Fund (SBLF) $6 billion
Total $498 billion
Source: Deborah J. Lucas, MIT Sloan School of Management

That conclusion rests on many uncertain assumptions, and the estimates presented here, individually and collectively, should be viewed as having wide error bands. (No kidding. The error bands are so wide that a real profit is turned into a theoretical loss.)

Three possible approaches to cost measurement are evaluated here through the lens of a simplified Arrow-Debreu state pricing framework. The Arrow-Debreu approach clearly shows why some approaches make sense and others do not, and why different approaches lead to widely divergent cost estimates.

The third approach simply adds together all realized cash flows between the government and the bailed out entity, positive and negative. This is referred to as ex post cash accounting. (In the venture capital context this is referred to as cash-in cash-out.) This approach is not theoretically justifiable for several reasons. It neglects time value and risk adjustment, and ignores the possibility that the outcome could have been different than what transpires. Nevertheless, it is most frequently how costs are calculated in popular accounts and government reports, as well as in some analyses by academics.

The press typically reports bailout costs on an ex post cash basis despite the problems with that approach. For example, ProPublica, a highly regarded non-partisan news organization, created a “Bailout Tracker” that has been keeping a running tally of government asset purchases and cash receipts under TARP and from the bailout of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. In their most recent update dated September 27, 2018, they report a total net government “profit” of $97 billion. Policymakers also tend to cite ex post cash results.

https://gcfp.mit.edu/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/BailoutsV12.pdf

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, December 6, 2022 4:34 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I figured I'd let a smart black woman explain these "reparations" to the stupid white dude going by the handle Second here. Ted gets a pass because for whatever reason woke race based issues is the only single problem he seems to have with his party...

California can't afford this. The current state budget is $308 billion and facing a $25 billion deficit.

Black America should not trade one master for another.

I am opposed to the Federal government paying the mortgages of people who couldn't keep up their payments. But that is my prejudice dating back to the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008. The Economic Stabilization Act actually earned a profit, but paying mortgages would have caused the Federal government to lose $trillions. The entire idea of foreclosing on homes is to get debtors (not the Federal government) to either pay those $trillions or else the homeowners and their children are out on their asses. Reparations to Blacks are mostly about Blacks' real estate losses. I don't think California's legislature will pass a reparations bill, not even one chance in a billion, so this is all theoretical. Unlike the Federal government, California can't create money out of thin air, so California will never pass reparations. If California could create the money out of thin air to pay the reparations then there might be a chance reparations would pass, but even then California might not do it because creating all that extra money for reparations might trigger a wave of hyperinflation in Cali-dollars or Cali-pesos.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, December 6, 2022 7:03 PM

Yeah. Their little conference seems to me to be like when I was a kid and my uncle bought a lotto ticket for me and I made all the plans of what I was going to do with the money when I won. I'm sure they feel at least as entitled to that money as I did when I was 7 years old.

The only difference is, I didn't go around and burn down neighborhoods when I didn't win.


Reparations is never going to happen. Idiot Newsom just lit up a powder keg by putting a figure on it.

Most blacks in California either don't want that "free" money and know that it's not free and/or know that it's not going to happen in the first place.

But some of them are already counting it and making plans for it.


Have fun, California... Waiting on those cops you shit on for a year to show up at your door to save you when the looting begins after they get the bad news.

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Tuesday, December 6, 2022 7:07 PM

My only question is, why do it now?

Politicians always offer shit they never intend to pay before an election (See Also: Biden's pre-mid-term college loan forgiveness grift)

We just had an election, Gavin. People's memory last about 2 weeks on average. A month after the fallout from this happens they won't even remember any of it anymore.

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Tuesday, December 6, 2022 7:57 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Reparations is never going to happen. Idiot Newsom just lit up a powder keg by putting a figure on it.

I was watching the live-action version of Pinocchio. What does that got to do with this? 6ix, you would be enraged at Pinocchio's "wokeness" because the Blue Fairy was played by a Black actress. The Blue Fairy told Pinocchio that he would become a real human if he proves brave, truthful and unselfish. Many Americans can't do even two out of three: brave/truthful/unselfish. Even more Americans go to Pleasure Island, where Pinocchio almost became a jackass working in the salt mines. It is inevitable that Americans who can't even live up to Pinocchio's standards would NOT pay for reparations because they are uncontrolled raging jackasses. By the way, Pinocchio killed Monstro the Whale because many problems can only be permanently solved when somebody who stands forever in the way of a solution dies. Killing Monstro was the final step in making Pinocchio a real human.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4593060/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, December 6, 2022 8:27 PM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Reparations is never going to happen. Idiot Newsom just lit up a powder keg by putting a figure on it.

I was watching the live-action version of Pinocchio. What does that got to do with this? 6ix, you would be enraged at Pinocchio's "wokeness" because the Blue Fairy was played by a Black actress. The Blue Fairy told Pinocchio that he would become a real human if he proves brave, truthful and unselfish. Many Americans can't do even two out of three: brave/truthful/unselfish. Even more Americans go to Pleasure Island, where Pinocchio almost became a jackass working in the salt mines. It is inevitable that Americans who can't even live up to Pinocchio's standards would NOT pay for reparations because they are uncontrolled raging jackasses. By the way, Pinocchio killed Monstro the Whale because many problems can only be permanently solved when somebody who stands forever in the way of a solution dies. Killing Monstro was the final step in making Pinocchio a real human.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4593060/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two






Hey Ted.

Your buddy Second wants to take your money and give it to some black person who wasn't a slave to alleviate his own guilt for being a waste of carbon.

You down with that?

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Wednesday, December 7, 2022 3:56 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Hey Ted.

Your buddy Second wants to take your money and give it to some black person who wasn't a slave to alleviate his own guilt for being a waste of carbon.

You down with that?

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Social Security, passed and signed by President Roosevelt in 1935, left out most African Americans for the first quarter century of its existence. Southern congressional representatives heavily influenced the Social Security Act with devastating results. The federal government gave the power to control benefit levels, eligibility, and administration of such programs to the states and excluded occupations mostly held by African Americans. At the time, sixty-five percent of African Americans fell outside of eligibility for the Social Security program — and between 70 and 80 percent fell outside eligibility requirements in different parts of the South.

For example, in 1940, the year Social Security payments for seniors began, the Social Security Board identified nearly 2.3 million Black workers as eligible for old age insurance, but the majority of those identified were disqualified because they were farm or domestic workers. These exclusions continued until 1954, when the occupational exclusions were eliminated.

From page 460 of the 2022 Interim Report of the Task Force to Study and Develop Reparation Proposals for African Americans
https://oag.ca.gov/ab3121

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Wednesday, December 7, 2022 7:48 PM

Can't wait to pay my fair share, and I live in Florida.

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