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Gavin (Noisome) Newsom's reparations

POSTED BY: SIGNYM
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Sunday, December 4, 2022 7:22 AM

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California reparations proposal could mean $223K per person in payments for Black residents


https://news.yahoo.com/california-reparations-proposal-could-mean-1702
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Just be glad you don't live in CA.
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Sunday, December 4, 2022 10:22 AM

Jesus Christ.

Well... He'd better pay them your money now. Or they're just going to burn your fucking house down when he doesn't.



I'm kind of wondering how it's fair that you're going to give a 1 time lump sum payment to a specific color people that hovers just around 80% of every dollar I've ever earned since I started working 26 years ago.

I won't wait for a legitimate answer since one does not exist.

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Sunday, December 4, 2022 6:19 PM

I posted about this a few times before guys but maybe the news seemed so insane it just slipped under your radar

It's been happening before Grabbing Noise-some one I remember was 'London Breed' ...she had an obsession with flooding California with special mixes of other race, none White Yellow, no Hindu Brown, nor any Native America who were originally there but she chose foreign Mexico, foreign Afro Black and Pacific island people and used it all as a giant human petri dish experiment and wanted to flood California with foreign Brood Parasites, Cuckold of the animal kingdom that forces others to raise their alien brood parasite eggs, like the Cowbird, the Japanese Crap or African catfish, the common Cuckoo and Genetic Swamping?

'London Nicole Breed' specifically pushed stealing taxes from other Americans to reward $1,000 to African Negroid Black entering the State, foreign Mexicans and Pacific Island women would be rewarded with other peoples money fr popping humans out of their vaginas. Breed has also explored multiple options for guaranteed universal payment income.

The insanity hit mainstream news CNN, Fox and the Huff Huff Huffington Post had the story about rewarding aliens who came in to California and got pregnant.

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Sunday, December 4, 2022 9:54 PM

I've posted about this, too. But then, it was just an idea. Now, it's a product of Gavin Noisome's commission with, a specific dollar amount attached.

Setting aside the fiscal irresponsibility, it's patently unjust and racist.

Let's look at the logic.

Because of racial mixing, I doubt you can find a 100% descendant of slaves today. So, if you find someone with "one drop of blood", even if not visibly black, do they qualify? For a reduced amount? Or, since prejudice is tied to skin color, do we measure a person's skin tone and apportion payouts accordingly? What about anyone with brown skin?

What about other discriminated groups? Women, for example, have (and still often are) been systematically discriminated against, and wealth extracted from them disproportionately. What about reparations for the Japanese, whos were interned and robbed of their assets in WWII?

Who pays for this, and (more importantly) why? My husband wasn't even born in the USA, and my grandparents weren't. What does my family have to do with slavery? In fact, since most people's families immigrated to the USA, and especially California, post-slavery, what do they have to do with slavery?

There are people whose ancestors fought on the Union side, to free slaves and end slavery. Do they get a discount?

Even descendants of slave owners - they're not responsible for what their great great great grandad did.

California was never a slave state. How did/does California benefit from slavery?

There still is ongoing prejudice, there's no question about that. And black and poor families were disproportionately robbed of their biggest asset - their homes- in the crash of 2008, thanks to unaffordable mortgages with inscrutable fine print pushed on people who were hoping to ride the home ownership escalator up. Also, let's not forget, Obama's policy of making the banks whole instead of people ("Occupy", remember?)

And we know that banks and insurances red-lined certian neighborhoods in the past.

But the only way to make up for ongoing prejudice is rigid adherence to equitable treatment in education, jobs, purchases, rentals, loans, and the justice system. No freebies based on sex, race, religion etc.

Also, we have to recognize that our economic system runs on exploitation. If we aren't exploiting blacks we're exploiting women, or foreign cheap labor, or illegal migrants.


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Monday, December 5, 2022 12:44 AM

2.3 million Californian blacks times $223,200 per person equals == $513 billion.

California state government equals $235 billion in General Fund spending for 2022-23
https://calbudgetcenter.org/resources/2022-23-california-state-budget-
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California’s GDP == $3,370 billion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_California

California could do it if the payments were spread out over 20 years (or 40 years) like an annuity or like Social Security, but for Blacks Only. California would need a bureaucracy just like Social Security has, or insurance companies have for annuities so that payments don't go to dead people or to people who aren't Californians.

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The group added, "According to the economic consultant team, the $559 billion figure represents the State of California’s ‘maximum liability’ for de jure homeownership discrimination 'if all 2,550,459 Black California residents who lived in the state in 2021 were descendants of the enslaved in the United States and had spent the entire time period from 1933 to 1977 in California (or were the legal heir of a person that did).'"


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, December 5, 2022 1:07 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I've posted about this, too. But then, it was just an idea. Now, it's a product of Gavin Noisome's commission with, a specific dollar amount attached.

Setting aside the fiscal irresponsibility, it's patently unjust and racist.



Yup. Like I said before, you'd better hope he pays them with your money now, or they're going to burn your house down.

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Also, we have to recognize that our economic system runs on exploitation. If we aren't exploiting blacks we're exploiting women, or foreign cheap labor, or illegal migrants.


White men have been shit on for over a decade. Where's my reparations?

#MeToo /snark

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Monday, December 5, 2022 8:41 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

White men have been shit on for over a decade. Where's my reparations?

#MeToo /snark

You weren't cheated out of money in the housing market of Indiana, 6ix, which is why nobody is talking about you receiving reparations for being cheated.

From page 36 of the report: Consider Paul Austin and Tenisha Tate-Austin, who bought a home in Marin City in 2016. Three years later, a white appraiser valued their home for $500,000 less than it was worth . . . (details that 6ixStringJack won't read) . . .

What does California owe the Campbells, the Shorts, the Simmonses, the Austins, and the 2.28 million Black Californians who have experienced different versions of these stories?

California Task Force to Study and Develop Reparation Proposals for African Americans
INTERIM REPORT Printed in the USA June 2022
https://oag.ca.gov/ab3121/reports

The quesstimation for reparations is around a half trillion dollars because Blacks have been cheated out of about a half trillion dollars in real estate. Total value of all housing in California is several trillion dollars, just for reference.

What is the total value of California real estate?
$9.24 trillion
According to Zillow, at the state level, California's housing market remains the most valuable in the country, with a total value of $9.24 trillion as of last December, accounting for more than a fifth – 21.3 percent – of the national total.
https://www.zillow.com/research/us-housing-market-total-value-2021-306
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, December 5, 2022 9:36 PM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

White men have been shit on for over a decade. Where's my reparations?

#MeToo /snark

You weren't cheated out of money in the housing market of Indiana, 6ix, which is why nobody is talking about you receiving reparations for being cheated.

From page 36 of the report: Consider Paul Austin and Tenisha Tate-Austin, who bought a home in Marin City in 2016. Three years later, a white appraiser valued their home for $500,000 less than it was worth . . . (details that 6ixStringJack won't read) . . .

What does California owe the Campbells, the Shorts, the Simmonses, the Austins, and the 2.28 million Black Californians who have experienced different versions of these stories?

California Task Force to Study and Develop Reparation Proposals for African Americans
INTERIM REPORT Printed in the USA June 2022
https://oag.ca.gov/ab3121/reports

The quesstimation for reparations is around a half trillion dollars because Blacks have been cheated out of about a half trillion dollars in real estate. Total value of all housing in California is several trillion dollars, just for reference.

What is the total value of California real estate?
$9.24 trillion
According to Zillow, at the state level, California's housing market remains the most valuable in the country, with a total value of $9.24 trillion as of last December, accounting for more than a fifth – 21.3 percent – of the national total.
https://www.zillow.com/research/us-housing-market-total-value-2021-306
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two



Oh fuck off. I earned it, and I'm smarter than most other folk of any race or sex that buy a house.

I bought a house that needed a ton of work, and I got it at a steal because of a young white family that bought more house than they ultimately could afford and got evicted because of shady loans that exploded in 2008.

I also spent 6 months and hundreds of phone calls gathering paperwork and evidence to purposefully devalue the home to the level it should have been, without having to pay a lawyer, saving me at least $18k in property taxes that I wasn't supposed to be paying since I moved in.



My point here is that if you're a white man in America in the last decade, you're the last person to be hired at a job. That's a simple fact. You'd better be bringing a lot of extra stuff to the table with you because if you get hired as a white man, the company you want to work for won't get the racist and sexist Federal tax credits that it would get for hiring anybody else but you.

You would know this if you actually ran a business, but yanno... Serial liar.



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Monday, December 5, 2022 10:36 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Oh fuck off. I earned it, and I'm smarter than most other folk of any race or sex that buy a house.

I bought a house that needed a ton of work, and I got it at a steal because of a young white family that bought more house than they ultimately could afford and got evicted because of shady loans that exploded in 2008.

I also spent 6 months and hundreds of phone calls gathering paperwork and evidence to purposefully devalue the home to the level it should have been, without having to pay a lawyer, saving me at least $18k in property taxes that I wasn't supposed to be paying since I moved in.



My point here is that if you're a white man in America in the last decade, you're the last person to be hired at a job. That's a simple fact. You'd better be bringing a lot of extra stuff to the table with you because if you get hired as a white man, the company you want to work for won't get the racist and sexist Federal tax credits that it would get for hiring anybody else but you.

You would know this if you actually ran a business, but yanno... Serial liar.


I have heard a thousand white Texans tell me the same old stories about jobs since 1970. But the reparations in California aren't airy-fairy job stories about not being hired. It is about Blacks being cheated in real estate deals. The California legislature will NOT compensate these Blacks for being robbed blind and I am sure that suing the people who did the robbing won't work because the court systems can't handle 2.23 million new cases alleging fraud and misrepresentation.

6ix, businesses create jobs like they create waste. Neither jobs nor waste (be it trash, scrape, sewage, smokestack emissions, etc.) are why businesses exist. This is why there are fewer jobs all the time. This is also why most farmers and their farmhands retired. Farms are for growing food, not for growing jobs. That's why my parents moved to Pasadena, Texas to work for Burger King in 1965, since farming jobs were decreasing while food production increased.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=XdG8


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, December 5, 2022 11:07 PM

^ OR, how to cram as many strawmen into two paragraphs as possible.

I really hope for the sake of anybody who has to deal with you in real life that you're not as insufferable as you are online.

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