Mid-Term Elections 2022. Hey Jack, I Was Right
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Some black dude beat his wife within an inch of her life. She had him on two separate cameras because this has happened before. He was arrested and released without bail. He got a gun, went back home and shot her in the face in front of their children.
Kathy Hochel murdered her.
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Correction: He did it in broad daylight. He killed her in the street while she was walking the kids to school.
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Why on earth would Biden* be going to Illinois?
Hehe.
Democrats are fucking terrified right now.
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Quote:The reason why you're having to criticize the GOP and recycle the RUSSIA!RUSSIA! hoax is because the DNC doesn't have anything to say about real life, so they make shit up while selling us downriver.
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There isn’t an "official" G.O.P. position on Social Security and Medicare. But the Republican Study Committee, the RSC, a caucus of House members that sets the party’s agenda, has released a fairly detailed set of proposals titled “Reclaiming Our Fiscal Future”. https://banks.house.gov/uploadedfiles/budget_fy22_final.pdf
The committee’s proposals center on raising the age at which Americans become eligible for Social Security and Medicare. Its plan calls for increasing the age at which workers can collect full Social Security benefits — which has already risen from 65 to 67 — to 70.
At the same time, the plan would raise the age at which Medicare kicks in to match the Social Security age. Given the Social Security proposal, this means delaying Medicare eligibility by five years, to the age of 70.
The report tries to justify these large benefit cuts — because that’s what they are — by pointing to the rise in life expectancy at age 65 since these programs were created. That is, it argues in effect that our major social benefit programs have become too generous because Americans are living longer.
While average life expectancy for seniors was rising before Covid struck, that rise was very unequal. Gains were much larger for Americans in the upper part of the income distribution — that is, the people who need Social Security and Medicare least.
https://www.jstor.org/stable/42920941?seq=1#metadata_info_tab_contents
Gains in life expectancy have been much bigger among Americans with a college degree. In fact, life expectancy has actually declined among noncollege whites. And mortality has been diverging among regions, with life expectancy at 65 in some states, mostly red, significantly below the national average and in others, mostly blue, significantly above.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr70/nvsr70-18.pdf#page=7
So Republican plans to cut Medicare and Social Security would impose widespread hardship, with some of the worst impacts falling on red-state, noncollege whites — that is, the party’s most loyal base.
Why imagine that proposals to deny benefits by raising the eligibility age won’t provoke a backlash?
At least part of the answer is surely the expectation that the right-wing disinformation machine can obscure what the G.O.P. is up to. The Republican Study Committee has released a 153-page report calling, among other things, for denying full Social Security benefits to Americans under 70; that didn’t stop Sean Hannity from declaring the other day that “not a single Republican has ever said they want to take away your Social Security.”
https://banks.house.gov/uploadedfiles/budget_fy22_final.pdf
If Republicans win one or both houses of Congress, they’ll try to achieve their goals not though the normal legislative process but through blackmail. They’ll threaten to provoke a global financial crisis by refusing to raise the debt limit. If Democrats defang that threat, Republicans will try to get what they want by making America ungovernable in other ways. Will they succeed? Stay tuned.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Too late for the DNC to course-correct. I doubt the DNC will anyway bc there's just too much darn MONEY in running the government for transnational elites, and too much to worry about if they step outta line ... well, too many closet skeletons, yanno?
If the DNC took a cue from Tulsi they might have a prayer. But they won't, so they don't.
Most of the GOP is not much better, judging by their campaign flyers, but right now the DNC had a big hand in making this mess and haven't shown capability or willingess to fix it.
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This is what the DNC is reduced to - Coverups and dementia
Judge Hand
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It should be noted that I don't expect Republicans to fix the problems that Democrats created, particularly in the economic space.
I just want somebody to stop the bleeding, and Democrats have not only proven that they are incapable of doing so, but they are actively opening the wounds wider.
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Quote:Indeed.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
It should be noted that I don't expect Republicans to fix the problems that Democrats created, particularly in the economic space.
I just want somebody to stop the bleeding, and Democrats have not only proven that they are incapable of doing so, but they are actively opening the wounds wider.
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Not too long ago, most of us were posting the same about GWB and the
GOP. Widespread defeat of establishment GOP led to the rise of a reformist wing and MAGA. A step in the right direction. If the DNC is hammered into the ground, there may be some space for a new wing in the party, one that comes closer to representing our interests. If we can leverage the two wings to compete against each other, maybe open up gaps in both parties, we might be able to get somewhere.
We just need to keep our heads screwed on straight and not get distracted by what will be vicious partisan warfare and lots of fake issues thrown in the air.
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Republican senators really are talking openly about Social Security cuts
Published: Nov. 4, 2022 at 11:39 a.m. ET
If a Republican-controlled Congress comes for your Social Security benefits in the next few years, don’t say they didn’t warn you.
They did.
Sen. Mike Lee of Utah brings to a round dozen the number of sitting GOP senators who have said, quite openly, that they want to put Social Security on the chopping block one way or another.
As Social Security benefits are looking at a 20% cut without new taxes, we may be talking about major changes to America’s retirement plan.
Meanwhile, according to the latest numbers at Predictit.org, the online betting market, the Republicans are cruising toward control of the House after next week’s midterms and have a growing chance of also winning the Senate. Which means they would have the means and opportunity as well as the motive to start taking the pruning shears, or an ax, to America’s retirement plan.
Make of that what you will.
Lee this week refused to disavow or deny his past remarks that he wanted “to phase out Social Security, to pull it up by the roots and get rid of it.”
More at https://web.archive.org/web/20221104181924/https://www.marketwatch.com
/story/yes-some-republican-senators-are-talking-openly-about-social-security-cuts-11667576391
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Originally posted by second:
Meanwhile, according to the latest numbers at Predictit.org, the online betting market, the Republicans are cruising toward control of the House after next week’s midterms and have a growing chance of also winning the Senate.
A growing chance.
Democrats already lost the senate. Bigly.
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Opinion | Why isn’t Trumpism hurting the GOP? Some Democrats see vexing answers.
By Greg Sargent | November 4, 2022 at 11:39 a.m. EDT
6-8 minutes
Something extraordinary just happened: In the space of just this week, a president and an ex-president warned that the opposition poses an existential threat to our political way of life. Joe Biden declared that “MAGA Republicans” have placed democracy “under threat.” Barack Obama warned that if GOP election deniers win in Arizona, “democracy may not survive.”
Yet the ongoing MAGA threat to U.S. democracy, including from Donald Trump himself, isn’t harming Republican chances of winning the House and very plausibly the Senate. Some think Democratic warnings are backfiring: Former Obama strategist David Axelrod suggested vulnerable Democrats don’t want the unpopular Biden to elevate himself in the election’s home stretch.
Why hasn’t the threat to democracy extracted a heavier price from Republicans? Is it true that vulnerable Democrats don’t want Biden to prominently address the topic? If so, should he have stood down, since Democrats themselves think protecting democracy above all requires keeping MAGA Republicans out of power? Could a more forceful case have made this a bigger voting issue?
I raised these questions with a number of senior Democratic strategists and pollsters working on tough House and Senate races. The answers that emerged are complicated, nuanced — and ultimately vexing.
First, it’s critical to note that messages about the threat to democracy mean different things to different voter groups, which means they help Democrats in some ways but not in others.
Democratic pollster Celinda Lake has found this mixed picture in extensive work with focus groups. Elevating threats to democracy, political violence and the events of Jan. 6, 2021, Lake tells me, “helps mobilize the Democratic base,” and, importantly, this kicked in at a key moment, when anger over the demise of abortion rights was “receding” in late summer.
This is not a small matter. Threats-to-democracy talk also galvanizes volunteers, who are critical amid soaring polarization and races decided on the margins, says Ezra Levin, co-founder of the progressive group Indivisible.
That’s because a Biden speech about democracy is heard by countless volunteers as a call to action. “By firing them up, he increases the numbers of doors knocked, texts sent and calls made,” Levin told me, which may “amp up turnout in the final days.”
But Lake’s focus groups also find something troubling for Democrats. Swing voters aren’t moved by these topics, Lake says, because they see both parties in a similar light: They think both manipulate democracy to their advantage, and they see the 2020 urban unrest amid police protests as akin to Jan. 6.
“I think both parties do this — I think both sides do this,” Lake quotes many voters as saying. This is particularly pronounced among White swing voters, she says, though some college-educated White swing voters are more troubled by GOP conduct.
Because democracy talk galvanizes the Democratic base while washing out among swing voters, Lake sees it as a net positive. But her focus groups discern another reason swing voters aren’t that worked up: They don’t believe our institutions are under serious strain.
“One thing that diminishes the impact of some of the crises we’re facing is that Americans have historically had tremendous faith in our institutions,” Lake tells me, noting that Americans learn from fourth grade onward to be “institutional optimists.”
If so, perhaps voters don’t connect this moment to America’s long history of democratic backsliding into authoritarian rule and political violence in places like the Jim Crow South, as Jamelle Bouie urges people to do in the New York Times.
Indeed, in focus groups, voters treat GOP talk about overturning elections dismissively, as “behaving like children,” says Lake. While they believe Trump poses a continuing threat, they don’t realize there are “a thousand Trumps o
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Originally posted by second:
Opinion | Why isn’t Trumpism hurting the GOP? Some Democrats see vexing answers.
By Greg Sargent | November 4, 2022 at 11:39 a.m. EDT
6-8 minutes
Something extraordinary just happened: In the space of just this week, a president and an ex-president warned that the opposition poses an existential threat to our political way of life. Joe Biden declared that “MAGA Republicans” have placed democracy “under threat.” Barack Obama warned that if GOP election deniers win in Arizona, “democracy may not survive.”
Yet the ongoing MAGA threat to U.S. democracy, including from Donald Trump himself, isn’t harming Republican chances of winning the House and very plausibly the Senate. Some think Democratic warnings are backfiring: Former Obama strategist David Axelrod suggested vulnerable Democrats don’t want the unpopular Biden to elevate himself in the election’s home stretch.
Why hasn’t the threat to democracy extracted a heavier price from Republicans? Is it true that vulnerable Democrats don’t want Biden to prominently address the topic? If so, should he have stood down, since Democrats themselves think protecting democracy above all requires keeping MAGA Republicans out of power? Could a more forceful case have made this a bigger voting issue?
I raised these questions with a number of senior Democratic strategists and pollsters working on tough House and Senate races. The answers that emerged are complicated, nuanced — and ultimately vexing.
First, it’s critical to note that messages about the threat to democracy mean different things to different voter groups, which means they help Democrats in some ways but not in others.
Democratic pollster Celinda Lake has found this mixed picture in extensive work with focus groups. Elevating threats to democracy, political violence and the events of Jan. 6, 2021, Lake tells me, “helps mobilize the Democratic base,” and, importantly, this kicked in at a key moment, when anger over the demise of abortion rights was “receding” in late summer.
This is not a small matter. Threats-to-democracy talk also galvanizes volunteers, who are critical amid soaring polarization and races decided on the margins, says Ezra Levin, co-founder of the progressive group Indivisible.
That’s because a Biden speech about democracy is heard by countless volunteers as a call to action. “By firing them up, he increases the numbers of doors knocked, texts sent and calls made,” Levin told me, which may “amp up turnout in the final days.”
But Lake’s focus groups also find something troubling for Democrats. Swing voters aren’t moved by these topics, Lake says, because they see both parties in a similar light: They think both manipulate democracy to their advantage, and they see the 2020 urban unrest amid police protests as akin to Jan. 6.
“I think both parties do this — I think both sides do this,” Lake quotes many voters as saying. This is particularly pronounced among White swing voters, she says, though some college-educated White swing voters are more troubled by GOP conduct.
Because democracy talk galvanizes the Democratic base while washing out among swing voters, Lake sees it as a net positive. But her focus groups discern another reason swing voters aren’t that worked up: They don’t believe our institutions are under serious strain.
“One thing that diminishes the impact of some of the crises we’re facing is that Americans have historically had tremendous faith in our institutions,” Lake tells me, noting that Americans learn from fourth grade onward to be “institutional optimists.”
If so, perhaps voters don’t connect this moment to America’s long history of democratic backsliding into authoritarian rule and political violence in places like the Jim Crow South, as Jamelle Bouie urges people to do in the New York Times.
Indeed, in focus groups, voters treat GOP talk about overturning elections dismissively, as “behaving like children,” says Lake. While they believe Trump poses a continuing threat, they don’NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
CNN, throwing Biden under the bus
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Fact check: Biden’s midterms message includes false and misleading claims
By Daniel Dale, CNN
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Biden’s pitch has included claims that are false, misleading or lacking important context. (As always, we take no position on the accuracy of his subjective arguments.) Here is a fact-check look at nine of his recent statements.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/05/politics/fact-check-biden-midterms-2022
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Nine? Wow!
And... isn't it too late to try and scrape Biden* out of voters' minds? I mean, I know that many people have goldfish-sized memories but they're not THAT bad.
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