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Cement is an extremely emissions-generating material, currently accounting for about eight percent of the world's global carbon emissions.
But Seratech carbon-neutral concrete wins the Obel Award 2022 because it stores CO2, rather than releasing it into the atmosphere.
The raw materials needed for Seratch's technology – carbon dioxide from industry and olivine, a magnesium iron silicate – are abundant around the globe. If industry cannot supply the carbon dioxide, then Draper says that Seratech could use an affordable direct air capture technology instead, drawing carbon dioxide from the atmosphere.
https://www.dezeen.com/2022/10/17/carbon-neutral-concrete-seratech-obe
l-award-2022/#
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Yup.
The only problem is that any time somebody claimed they can do that it ended up being a Kickstarter scam that ran away with millions.
And none of the "news" agencies reporting on their scam products ever apologized to anyone who funded the campaigns.
Good luck.
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Quote:Until Seratech, or somebody, sells this product by the millions of tons per week, it won't make much difference.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Cement is an extremely emissions-generating material, currently accounting for about eight percent of the world's global carbon emissions.
But Seratech carbon-neutral concrete wins the Obel Award 2022 because it stores CO2, rather than releasing it into the atmosphere.
The raw materials needed for Seratch's technology – carbon dioxide from industry and olivine, a magnesium iron silicate – are abundant around the globe. If industry cannot supply the carbon dioxide, then Draper says that Seratech could use an affordable direct air capture technology instead, drawing carbon dioxide from the atmosphere.
https://www.dezeen.com/2022/10/17/carbon-neutral-concrete-seratech-obe
l-award-2022/#
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Yup.
The only problem is that any time somebody claimed they can do that it ended up being a Kickstarter scam that ran away with millions.
And none of the "news" agencies reporting on their scam products ever apologized to anyone who funded the campaigns.
Good luck.
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Quote:https://www.seratechcement.com/our-technology
Seratech has developed a process that consumes olivine and waste CO2 from flue gases and produces two products which both have significant value in construction.
Silica is produced which can be used as a supplementary cementitious material (SCM) in concrete meaning the amount of Portland cement in the concrete can be reduced by up to 40%. As the silica comes from a process that captures CO2 it is “carbon negative” and the concrete can become carbon neutral.
Magnesium carbonate is produced that can be used to make a range of zero carbon construction materials and consumer products, including alternatives to building blocks and plasterboard.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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If industry cannot supply the carbon dioxide, then Draper says that Seratech could use an affordable direct air capture technology instead, drawing carbon dioxide from the atmosphere.
This is the part I was talking about though.
No. They can't do that.
I'm not saying that it can't be done, but I simply can't imagine any scenario where the technology would ever become cheap enough to be viable. Not for corporations like Seratech, and certainly not for regular users like you an me.
If they could actually do what Draper claimed they could do and make it work economically for their own firm, they would simply be able to ditch any single other thing they were ever working on and sell that technology to the world.
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Quote:When talk about price comes up, the argument against global climate change is lost. The price for dumping CO2 directly into the air is always $0.00 per ton. No industrial product can compete with that price. And the price of $133.80 per ton of portland cement is so low that Seratech can't compete with that, either. Why pay $200.00 per ton for a substitute for portland cement?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm not saying that it can't be done, but I simply can't imagine any scenario where the technology would ever become cheap enough to be viable. Not for corporations like Seratech, and certainly not for regular users like you and me.
https://www.ibisworld.com/us/bed/price-of-cement/190/
But there are other prices to pay, like $446.66 per metric ton of wheat in March 2022. Wheat will get very expensive if CO2 continues at always higher concentrations. Droughts and floods ruin wheat crops.
https://www.theglobaleconomy.com/World/wheat_price/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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When talk about price comes up, the argument against global climate change is lost. The price for dumping CO2 directly into the air is always $0.00 per ton. No industrial product can compete with that price. And the price of $133.80 per ton of portland cement is so low that Seratech can't compete with that, either. Why pay $200.00 per ton for a substitute for portland cement?
https://www.ibisworld.com/us/bed/price-of-cement/190/
Here's an idea. Give the companies that use the $73 per ton for the new product tax breaks for using it for "X" amount of years until it becomes standard with the dumb-ass Inflation Reduction Act instead of $7,000 tax credits for people buying EVs that don't work. Ford, GM and everybody else already raised the prices of their EVs $7,000 immediately after that bill was passed, so the only people making out on that deal are the executives at the car companies.
I guess then we just sit back and pray that the new product does what they claim it to do and we don't see buildings and bridges falling out from under people every day 10 or 20 years from now because we stopped using a tried and true product we've used forever because you're scared that the environment is going to die.
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But there are other prices to pay, like $446.66 per metric ton of wheat in March 2022. Wheat will get very expensive if CO2 continues at always higher concentrations. Droughts and floods ruin wheat crops.
I'm sure you and most people in the world could use a little less gluten in your diet, fatty.
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Nuclear Fusion and Climate Change: 'We Need Every Technology We Can Get'
https://www.newsweek.com/nuclear-fusion-climate-change-pollution-carbo
n-1752330
Merkel says no regrets over Germany’s Russia gas deals
https://www.thelocal.de/20221013/merkel-says-no-regrets-over-germanys-
russia-gas-deals/
France sets course for a nuclear renaissance
https://www.ft.com/content/ce27b34a-b6d3-4bb3-840b-f4b1c8436641
Extraordinary first images emerge of mangled Nord Stream: 165ft of blown-up Baltic Sea gas pipe is 'either missing or buried
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11326855/Extraordinary-images
-emerge-mangled-Nord-Stream-attacked-extreme-force.html
Germany set to backtrack on nuclear phaseout
https://www.politico.eu/article/germany-set-to-extend-nuclear-power-du
e-to-much-worse-energy-situation-in-france/
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Merkel says no regrets over Germany’s Russia gas deals
Easy for her to say. She raped the country like a Pelosi while she was in power. She's not going to be the one paying for her mistakes while the German girls are being raped in back alleys by the Muslims Merkel unleashed on her people this winter while they're out trying to find shit to throw into the oil drum their family is using to heat their homes.
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Quote:The Corpus Christi New Harbor bridge construction was stopped because the Trumptards who designed it didn't calculate the concrete flexing when stressed during a hurricane. Things fail because average people lack imagination about ordinary, concrete, real things such as CO2 and hurricanes. Instead, they imagine unreal dangers and fear displeasing the supernatural and their long-dead ancestors.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I guess then we just sit back and pray that the new product does what they claim it to do and we don't see buildings and bridges falling out from under people every day 10 or 20 years from now because we stopped using a tried and true product we've used forever because you're scared that the environment is going to die.
It took 300,000 years to go from a genius discovering fire to the technology level in the year 2200 B.C. when another genius discovered the wheel. Wheels were too complex to even imagine before then. Nowadays, some geniuses have discovered how to prevent CO2 from destroying the climate and very average people can't imagine what it is all about since it's too complex for them, making them fearful about bridges and buildings falling down.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheel#History
What Really Happened at the New Harbor Bridge Project?
1,209,343 views Sep 20, 2022 -An overview of the drama unfolding over the ship channel in Corpus Christi, Texas.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Originally posted by second:Quote:The Corpus Christi New Harbor bridge construction was stopped because the Trumptards who designed it didn't calculate the concrete flexing when stressed during a hurricane. Things fail because average people lack imagination about ordinary, concrete, real things such as CO2 and hurricanes. Instead, they imagine unreal dangers and fear displeasing the supernatural and their long-dead ancestors.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I guess then we just sit back and pray that the new product does what they claim it to do and we don't see buildings and bridges falling out from under people every day 10 or 20 years from now because we stopped using a tried and true product we've used forever because you're scared that the environment is going to die.
It took 300,000 years to go from a genius discovering fire to the technology level in the year 2200 B.C. when another genius discovered the wheel. Wheels were too complex to even imagine before then. Nowadays, some geniuses have discovered how to prevent CO2 from destroying the climate and very average people can't imagine what it is all about since it's too complex for them, making them fearful about bridges and buildings falling down.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheel#History
What Really Happened at the New Harbor Bridge Project?
1,209,343 views Sep 20, 2022 -An overview of the drama unfolding over the ship channel in Corpus Christi, Texas.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
I never said you shouldn't use it. Have at it. I also never said that the new product won't work.
I'm just saying that the people in charge of the Science narrative have been wrong about a lot
recently and can't tell you what a Woman is anymore.
I also personally don't give a shit if it does or doesn't work since I'll never be using it
for any of my projects and it will be tested in states like California and New York long before
it ever makes its way into the infrastructure in the flyover states.
Good luck with the new product. Hopefully you're not driving on a bridge that's made of it 10
years from now in your Ford F-150 Lightning that can't haul anything when it collapses on you
because it was rushed into use faster than a covid shot that will make your heart explode while
doing chores.
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Romans were using volcanic ash in their cement to make roadways and aquaducts, Pieces are still standing today. It's a durable material that doesn't need reinforcement rods when used for compresional load and for some applications that need shearing strength.
we have tons and tons of the equivalent of volcani ash already at-hand, it's called flyash: the tiny spherical particles that remain when the carbon from a piece of pulverized coal is burned off. Coal-burning power plants generate mountains of it.
It can be used to replace some portion of traditional portland cement (calcined limestone, sand, and other matrials) to produce a product with slower set times but superior strength.
https://gccassociation.org/cement-and-concrete-innovation/clinker-subs
titutes/fly-ash/
Another useful material for making cement: old tires. The carbon in the tires is good fuel, and the sulfur (used to harden rubber) and iron (from steel-belted radials) are useful additions to cement.
https://www.wasterecyclingmag.ca/feature/making-cement-with-tires/
In addition, ground-up tires make durable roadway surfaces and flexible cement
https://www.familyhandyman.com/article/can-recycled-tires-make-durable
-concrete/
By up-cycling, you can make a second use of the energy and water needed to [roduce the original material and save yourself a disposal headache.
Interesting info about cement, SECOND. For various reasons I wound up looking deeply into cement-making chemistry. It's a complex product of limestone (calcium carbonate >>> calcium oxide) and silica literally melted together, along with iron, sulfur and other additions. There are five different common types for different uses, but it's a complex material and its gel-forming chemistry is still a bit of a mystery.
SIX: carbon dioxide can be recovered most economically from flue-gases. I'm not sure what process would be used, but since CO2 is considered an "acid gas" in can be absorbed into a basic solution like one of the ethanolamines (which absorb SO2 and CO2 but let nitrogen and oxygen through) and then released from solution with a little bit of heat as almost-pure CO2.
But you can recover it from the atmo: companies that produce specialty gases like liquid oxygen and liquid nitrogen use atmospheric gas as their starting material and compress/refigerate it. The first compression drops out water and many impurities, the second compresion drops out CO2. (And then O2/argon, and then N2) Anyway, there are half-dozen ways that I can think of to capture CO2 for later use.
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