Russia Invades Ukraine. Again
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Quote:You are describing the history of both Russia and China. The two countries with the most deaths during WWII have present day leaders who are very cozy.
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
One thing you can say about Putin is he doesn't care how many Russians he has to kill to keep fighting.
Neither leader is careful when expending lives while writing their own glorious pages in history.
Funny how easy it is to find stories about a genocide going forward in China. And Russia planned to kill off the Ukrainians, but that plan is temporarily on hold. Russia and China are controlled by two great minds thinking alike.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d1/World_War_II_Casua
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I couldn't give a rat's ass whatUkraine needsUkraine's oligarchs want.
Maybe if it was "What does AMERUCA need?" I'd bother to read.
America needs Ukraine to beat the ever lovin' shit out of Russia. Putin is a dangerous, joyless old dinosaur, still using ancient artiliery/trench warfare strategies from WW1, and KGB inspired policing of his own citizens. The world is too fucking small for his type. He's going to get plowed under, it's only a matter of time - what Russia does effects the entire globe, and in this case it's for nothing. Just drawing lines on a map or serving his ego. One fcking guy. But Ziggy, you go ahead and keep supporting Putin.
https://news.yahoo.com/ukrainian-authorities-discover-mass-grave-16103
6986.html
Brigid Kennedy, Staff Writer
Fri, September 16, 2022, 12:10 PM·1 min read
Mass burial site in Izyum, Ukraine.
Ukrainian authorities have uncovered a mass grave with over 440 bodies in the eastern city of Izium, Ukraine's Defense Ministry announced Friday, per CNN.
Izium was recently recaptured from Russian forces, after having been "subject to intense ... artillery attacks" in the spring, CNN writes. The city, nestled near the border between the Kharkiv and Donetsk regious, served as an "important hub" for Putin's offensive "during five months of occupation."
Some of the victims in the mass grave were killed by gunfire, while others died of "so-called mine explosion traumas," Serhii Bolvinov, Kharkiv's chief police investigator, told the United Kingdom's Sky News, per CNN. "Some died because of airstrikes," he continued. "Also we have information that a lot of bodies have not been identified yet. So the reasons of death will be established during the investigations." The buried corpses were also "mostly civilians," according to Ukraine's Center for Stategic Communications, and showed some signs of torture, adds The Associated Press.
Per CNN, Bolvinov believes there could be other mass graves in the Kharkiv area.
"Bucha, Mariupol, now, unfortunately, Izium ... Russia leaves death everywhere. And it must be held accountable for it," Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, alluding to tales of similar civilian tragedies from earlier in the invasion, said in a video address on Thursday. "We want the world to know what is really happening and what the Russian occupation has led to."
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Quote:Is this a he said, she said kind of thing you've got going on here, Signym? Except he has a heap of corpses and she says, "Corpses? What corpses? I didn't see any corpses!" and "I wasn't the one who tortured then killed them. How dare you accuse me! I am innocent. You can believe me. Have I ever lied? Trust me."
Originally posted by SignyM:
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Reuters September 17, 2022
Moscow has not commented on the discovery of the graves. It regularly denies committing atrocities in the war or targeting civilians.
Reuters saw workers carefully exhume at least five graves with shovels, while police experts and investigators documented the findings on camera and inspected the bodies on the sandy soil between trunks of pine trees.
Investigators said the condition of the teeth showed some of the people were elderly.
"Exhumations are under way. Their identities are currently not known," said Roman Kasianenko, a regional prosecutor. He said three bodies dug up on Friday had been identified. . . .
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy on Saturday said officials have found evidence of torture on exhumed bodies, adding that around 10 torture sites have been found across the territory liberated this month.
The head of the Russia-installed administration that abandoned the northeastern area around Izium last week accused Ukrainians of staging atrocities. "I have not heard anything about burials," Vitaly Ganchev told Rossiya-24 state television.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-searches-its-dead-russian
-occupation-burial-site-2022-09-17/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Same as it ever was...
Nobody gives a single shit about Ukraine.
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Falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus
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It wasn't a "mass grave", it was a burial site: individual graves marked with crosses. Hardly a pit where bodies were dumped.
This is what's in our "press"...
Ukrainian officials say ...
https://www.rferl.org/a/ukrainians-find-bodies-with-hands-tied-in-mass
-burial-site-near-izyum/32037744.html
Top Ukraine official says...
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/top-ukraine-official-says-450-bod
ies-found-in-izyum-mass-grave-some-with-hands-tied-behind-their-backs/ar-AA11WrMb
Ukraine says...
https://www.irishtimes.com/world/europe/2022/09/18/russia-ukraine-war-
izyum-residents-search-mass-grave-after-russians-driven-out/
Ukrainian official says ...
https://www.thejournal.ie/ireland-eneds-to-hold-russia-to-account-afte
r-mass-grave-found-in-ukraine-izium-5868015-Sep2022/
Ukrainian officials revealed ... https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/satellite-images-show-tanks-near-
izyum-mass-graves-month-before-bodies-found/ar-AA11W0Jx
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said ...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11218677/Mass-graves-Izyum-Ze
lensky-says-Russia-held-accountable.html
Do we have ANYTHING not coming from a "Ukraine official"? Meanwhile back in Bucha, the victims of a so-called "Russian massacre" who were supposedly executed before Russian withdrawal were not, in fact, executed. They were killed by anti-personnel shells containing flechettes.
The story NOW is that Russia shelled... ITSELF??? But Kiev uses the same shell, fired from the same kind of cannon, and most likely fired them at Bucha.
I'm shit-canning Kiev's accusations, along with the "Ghost of Kiev" and the rape stories told by "Ukrain officials" which turned out to be ... you guess it ... lies.
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Quote:6ix, I've seen this particular style of dealing with reality from Trumptards. Anybody, including Democrats, using this style will fall behind people who are repelled by the Trumptards' way of thinking. This style worked from 300,000 years ago until the 19th century, but isn't evolutionary adaptive today. More adaptive would be ignoring Ukraine, not having any opinion.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Same as it ever was...
Nobody gives a single shit about Ukraine.
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Falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus
Clausewitz wrote that “the moral elements are among the most important in war. They constitute the spirit that permeates war as a whole.” Ukraine has those moral elements, and they are generating societal resilience and garnering international support.
Ukrainian staying power is changing the Russian approach. Although the Russian military has targeted civilian populations from the start, it has shifted dramatically in that direction as its invasion falters and is driven back. As Russia’s failures on the battlefield mount, it will lose its military effectiveness — which will further shift the Russian way of war from fighting an army to punishing civilians it could not conquer.
Could the Russians escalate more, and more wildly? Yes, absolutely. The possibility of Russia using a nuclear weapon on Kyiv as Russia’s military is forced to retreat is discussed frequently in policy circles in Kyiv. But I heard no variation on the conclusion by Ukrainians that it would change only the cost, not the outcome, of the war. Russia is already purposely inflicting civilian casualties indiscriminately and in large numbers.
As Ukrainians defend their country, you can see what Abraham Lincoln called “the solemn pride that must be yours to have laid so costly a sacrifice upon the altar of freedom.”
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukrainian-success-will-not-be-cat
astrophic/ar-AA11VTT6
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Originally posted by second:Quote:6ix, I've seen this particular style of dealing with reality from Trumptards. Anybody, including Democrats, using this style will fall behind people who are repelled by the Trumptards' way of thinking. This style worked from 300,000 years ago until the 19th century, but isn't evolutionary adaptive today. More adaptive would be ignoring Ukraine, not having any opinion.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Same as it ever was...
Nobody gives a single shit about Ukraine.
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That's what I do about it in real life.
Just like everybody else in the world who doesn't give a shit about Ukraine.
It's just you, Ted, Joe Biden*, some idiots in the media, and some occasional douchebag with a Ukraine bumper sticker that pretend to care. Yanno... the type of guy who still wears his covid mask when driving alone in his car from work to go home and jerk off to MSNBC with a condom on.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
It wasn't a "mass grave", it was a burial site: individual graves marked with crosses. Hardly a pit where bodies were dumped..
Hey - you're not lying again are you? (trick question)
According to Ziggy, It's not a mass grave if "400+ bodies are buried separately."
And how could you possibly know how many bodies are under each cross?
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
The story NOW is that Russia shelled... ITSELF??? But Kiev uses the same shell, fired from the same kind of cannon, and most likely fired them at Bucha.
What do you mean, "the story NOW is?" Who's story? And what do you mean by "most likely?" According to whom? You can't even bother to lie believably. We Deserve Better Lies from You! Come on!
Didn't you suggest that Ukraine was bombing it's own Nuclear power station at one point? And now you suggest they killed 440 of their own people? Why 440? Wouldn't 50 be enough to make the point? You are promoting a staggering amount of stupid.
Bottom line - none of this happens without Dickhead invading Ukraine.
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Quote:Western press. Not even attributed to anyone or any organization, just insinuated.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
It wasn't a "mass grave", it was a burial site: individual graves marked with crosses. Hardly a pit where bodies were dumped.
CAPN: Hey - you're not lying again are you? (trick question)
According to Ziggy, It's not a mass grave if "400+ bodies are buried separately."
And how could you possibly know how many bodies are under each cross?
SIGNYM: The story NOW is that Russia shelled... ITSELF??? But Kiev uses the same shell, fired from the same kind of cannon, and most likely fired them at Bucha.
CAPN: What do you mean, "the story NOW is?" Who's story?
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Dozens of civilians who died during the Russian occupation of the Ukrainian city of Bucha were killed by tiny metal arrows from shells of a type fired by Russian artillery, forensic doctors have said.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/24/dozens-bucha-civilians-k
illed-flechettes-metal-darts-russian-artillery
ALSO of a type fired by Kiev artillery. But when did this happen? Surely they can estimated when these people died- Did this happen when Russia took over Bucha. Or when they retreated a month later or some time in between? The article says "during" the Russian occupation which means the Russians shelled... themselves? (That makes no sense whatsoever).
And whatever happened to those bodies so carefully staged on a Bucha street? Were THEY killed by flechettes too? Or "executed", as Kiev claimed?
The fact that they never seem to follow up on those "executions", or tell us WHEN the people they DID find were killed, or tell us that Kiev ALSO uses the same kind of artillery, shows that this is a carefully crafted story designed to lead the reader to infer that Russia was to blame without ever saying so.
Quote:Because I don't know for sure. But I know how to read and when I see big holes in stories I can guess pretty well who is lying, and why.
And what do you mean by "most likely?"
Quote:Yes, bc it's OCCUPIED BY RUSSIA. KIEV's claim -once again- is that Russia is shelling... wait for it... itself.
Didn't you suggest that Ukraine was bombing it's own Nuclear power station at one point?
Quote:Well, they used human shields, didn't they? Obviously, they didnt care what happened to THOSE Ukrainians. Why would they not kill more civilians, especially of these civilians were Russia-friendly "collaborators"?
And now you suggest they killed 440 of their own people? Why 440? Wouldn't 50 be enough to make the point? You are promoting a staggering amount of stupid.
Why anyone believes a single thing that Kiev/EU/WH/M$M says is beyond me. They don't ALWAYS lie... sometimes they actually manage to publish truth, but you've really got dig thru bull to find it.
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