Russia Invades Ukraine. Again
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Quote:All my life I've noticed that some people have very different values than me, but that was never a problem. We could get along fine and prosper together despite the differences. On the other hand, insane people, Signym and 6ix for two examples, were a huge problem. Facts never made a dent in their mental armor because the insane will make their own facts and live crazy, rather than different from how a sane person lives. Trump? Putin? Absolutely insane and have been for decades, but other insane people are attracted to them and use fake facts when advocating for them. All the insanity compressed into one false line: "Seriously dood - it's Kiev that uses human shields and massacres "collaborators", not the LDNR militias." This is not about different values, Signym.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Oh, I have no problem with anyone liking Starbucks, CAPON. But to say that not having Starbucks makes a city "unbearable"? That byatch has NO IDEA of "unbearable". Clearly, she hasn't visited our dirty, crime-ridden cities. And especially the Starbucks where the homeless hang out and the addicted take drugs in the restrooms.
And I DO have a problem with dead women and children. That's what started this whole mess in Ukraine to begin with. Seriously dood - it's Kiev that uses human shields and massacres "collaborators", not the LDNR militias.
I never expect honesty from you CAPON, so I'm never disapointed.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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I didn't make up, or believe, the golden showers "dossier". I didn't believe in Iraq WMD or "R2P" or "Assad gassed his own people". I didn't turn a low-level criminal into a martyr, ignore billions of dollars of damage and hundreds of cops being injured by Antifa. I don't believe that everyone, or even MOST people, are prospering in this deindustrialized "gig economy", or that Jan 6 was anything other than a protest that got out of hand, or any of the other media garbage that you seem to swallow so readily.
Unlike SIX, I'm wasn't in denial about Covid, nor am I in denial about climate change. I don't think Trump is "the answer", I disagree with about half of his policies, and I thought he was damn ineffective about implementing some of the policies that I agreed with. But al least he got SOME things right, and one of them was that the President's job is caring for America and Americans, NOT interfering across the entire damn globe.
Most importnatly I don't falsely attribute statements, beliefs, and associations to you. And when I run out of on-point things to say, I don't fling random ad hominems. That's something YOU do. When I accuse you of lying and libel, it's specific and demonstrable. 
I think I've got my feet pretty firmly planted and my head screwed on straight, and I believe in solving problems, not covering them up, like you do.
Let's see where your (and the DNC's) smarmy rationalizations and blame shifting and warmongering get us in the next few years.
Oh, and have a nice day
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Most importnatly I don't falsely attribute statements, beliefs, and associations to you. And when I run out of on-point things to say, I don't fling random ad hominems. That's something YOU do. When I accuse you of lying and libel, it's specific and demonstrable.
That's a whopper! You owe me another keyboard! You've done that exact shit just in this thread. You a shite actor btw.
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Quote:Are you sure you are not now and have never been a lunatic? I only ask because defending Trump is lunatic territory. Supporting Russia or indifference to Russia killing civilians (6ix's thing) is lunatic land.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I think I've got my feet pretty firmly planted and my head screwed on straight, and I believe in solving problems, not covering them up, like you do.
Let's see where your (and the DNC's) smarmy rationalizations and blame shifting and warmongering get us in the next few years.
Oh, and have a nice day
Wonking Out: What Ukraine Needs From Us
Lawyers, guns and money. OK, skip the lawyers.
by Paul Krugman / September 16, 2022 at 01:18PM
Lately I’ve been seeing what seems like a growing number of reports about Ukraine’s economic difficulties. And it definitely makes sense to focus more on the country’s economy now that the tide seems to have turned in Ukraine’s favor on the battlefield.
But it’s hard to avoid suspecting ulterior motives for that scrutiny. Supporters of Ukraine’s fight may be trying to shame Western powers into providing more aid, while “realists,” who’ve spent the whole war urging Ukraine to surrender and have been disappointed in their predictions of military defeat, are now predicting inevitable economic collapse.
Still, the economic difficulties are real and serious. According to official estimates, Ukraine’s real gross domestic product has fallen 37 percent from a year ago, although there are some signs of recovery. At the same time, inflation has surged to nearly 24 percent over the previous year.
But here’s the thing: I’ve read a lot of economic history, including the economics of wars past. And my reaction to the Ukrainian numbers is: That’s all?
OK, that’s a really big decline in G.D.P., but what do you expect when an invader seizes a significant part of your territory, blockades your ports and uses missiles to blow up a significant part of your infrastructure?
And the inflation number is surprisingly low, given the circumstances. After all, quite a few countries have managed to create significantly higher inflation than that without being the target of a huge foreign invasion. Turkey, for example, currently has 80 percent annual inflation.
It’s important to note that major wars usually lead to higher inflation, with some justification.
After all, it’s unusual and, in fact, inappropriate for a government confronted with the need to make large but temporary outlays — like paying for immense military operations or, for that matter, pandemic relief — to fully pay for those outlays with higher taxes. Why inappropriate? Because even a liberal like me will admit that very high tax rates hurt incentives. So it’s better to borrow some of the needed funds and defray those costs over time.
But running a big budget deficit does increase overall demand in the economy, which is inflationary, especially if supply is simultaneously being reduced, for example by Russian missile strikes. If borrowing to cover the deficit is difficult — which it often is in wartime — some of the gap may also be covered by printing money. So it’s normal, and even acceptable, to see significant inflation in times of war.
World War II, by the way, is the exception that proves the rule. Despite gigantic budget deficits and the diversion of much of the economy’s capacity to war production, the U.S. government mostly kept a lid on inflation, partly via price controls and partly via rationing and other controls that suppressed private demand. Even then, there was a postwar spike in prices when those controls were removed.
If we look at earlier episodes, however, wars were regularly accompanied by inflation. During World War I, for example, Britain and the United States experienced inflation not far short of what Ukraine is experiencing now, even though neither was invaded.
Or look at the Civil War. The Union experienced Ukraine-like inflation. The Confederacy, whose military situation more clos
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I couldn't give a rat's ass what Ukraine needs Ukraine's oligarchs want.
Maybe if it was "What does AMERUCA need?" I'd bother to read.
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Quote:I am not misquoting you: Signym wrote AMERUCA instead of America. Trivial mistake? I think not. And tacitly your argument is that Russia will be satisfied with just Ukraine. Maybe for now, but if Russia takes Ukraine, there are other countries to conquer once Ukraine is digested. But if Russia has to vomit out Ukraine, Russia will learn to not eat the other neighbors.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I couldn't give a rat's ass whatUkraine needsUkraine's oligarchs want.
Maybe if it was "What does AMERUCA need?" I'd bother to read.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I couldn't give a rat's ass whatUkraine needsUkraine's oligarchs want.
Maybe if it was "What does AMERUCA need?" I'd bother to read.
America needs Ukraine to beat the ever lovin' shit out of Russia. Putin is a dangerous, joyless old dinosaur, still using ancient artiliery/trench warfare strategies from WW1, and KGB inspired policing of his own citizens. The world is too fucking small for his type. He's going to get plowed under, it's only a matter of time - what Russia does effects the entire globe, and in this case it's for nothing. Just drawing lines on a map or serving his ego. One fcking guy. But Ziggy, you go ahead and keep supporting Putin.
https://news.yahoo.com/ukrainian-authorities-discover-mass-grave-16103
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Brigid Kennedy, Staff Writer
Fri, September 16, 2022, 12:10 PM·1 min read
Mass burial site in Izyum, Ukraine.
Ukrainian authorities have uncovered a mass grave with over 440 bodies in the eastern city of Izium, Ukraine's Defense Ministry announced Friday, per CNN.
Izium was recently recaptured from Russian forces, after having been "subject to intense ... artillery attacks" in the spring, CNN writes. The city, nestled near the border between the Kharkiv and Donetsk regious, served as an "important hub" for Putin's offensive "during five months of occupation."
Some of the victims in the mass grave were killed by gunfire, while others died of "so-called mine explosion traumas," Serhii Bolvinov, Kharkiv's chief police investigator, told the United Kingdom's Sky News, per CNN. "Some died because of airstrikes," he continued. "Also we have information that a lot of bodies have not been identified yet. So the reasons of death will be established during the investigations." The buried corpses were also "mostly civilians," according to Ukraine's Center for Stategic Communications, and showed some signs of torture, adds The Associated Press.
Per CNN, Bolvinov believes there could be other mass graves in the Kharkiv area.
"Bucha, Mariupol, now, unfortunately, Izium ... Russia leaves death everywhere. And it must be held accountable for it," Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, alluding to tales of similar civilian tragedies from earlier in the invasion, said in a video address on Thursday. "We want the world to know what is really happening and what the Russian occupation has led to."
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Air Force Brig. Gen. Pat Ryder, the Pentagon’s top spokesman: “We have seen them make some advances in the north, in the Kharkiv region,” Ryder told The War Zone during a media briefing Friday afternoon. “The Ukrainians continue to conduct their counter-offensive operations, primarily up in the north in Kharkiv and in the south in the Kherson region.”
When asked how long the war could last, Ryder declined to speculate.
"I'm not going to try to put a timeline on this conflict, other than to say again, we believe that this will continue to be a tough fight," he said. "We've seen the Ukrainians have some success. And we'll continue our focus on supporting them in their fight. But we do anticipate that this will continue to be a very tough fight. And the only thing that could shorten it would be if the Russians decided to do the right thing, and withdraw their occupying forces from Ukraine."
In its latest assessment, the Institute for the Study of War (ISW) offered several key takeaways, including how Russia is struggling to balance raising additional forces to fight in Ukraine against the animosity of Russians who don't want to see a general mobilization.
Our latest report at @TheStudyofWar assessed that Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov’s call on Russian federal subjects to “self-mobilize” is an indicator that the Kremlin is doubling down on crypto-mobilization rather than setting conditions for general mobilization. https://t.co/ObMKtgAZ32
"Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov called on all federal subjects to initiate 'self-mobilization' and not wait on the Kremlin to declare martial law," ISW reported. "Kadyrov claimed that each federal subject must prove its readiness to help Russia by recruiting at least 1,000 servicemen instead of delivering speeches and conducting fruitless public events. Russian propagandist Margarita Simonyan echoed the need for Russians to volunteer to join the war effort, and several loyalist Russian governors publicly supported Kadyrov’s speech. The Russian-appointed head of occupied Crimea, Sergey Aksyonov, announced the formation of two volunteer battalions on the peninsula in support of Kadyrov’s calls."
More at https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/ukraine-situation-report-russia-
loses-another-key-city
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-situation-report-russia-l
oses-another-key-city/ar-AA11USZb
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Originally posted by second:
When asked how long the war could last, Ryder declined to speculate.
One thing you can say about Putin is he doesn't care how many Russians he has to kill to keep fighting. For essentially nothing. Nothing that those dead soldiers and their families care about at least. He must have zero respect for the average soldier, being ready to die for nothing. Almost like relationship between Trump and his base.
He also has the talent for inspiring absolute hatred from his enemies - Ukraine is not going to stop either. This will probably be a near endless slog like the Donetsk airport. 8 more years? The EU should be well on it's way to alternative energy by then and they can say FU to that fckwad.
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