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RIP Gerald Ford

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Saturday, January 6, 2007 4:38 PM

Cartoon...thanks for your intelligent clarification of Spector's role.

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Saturday, January 6, 2007 4:42 PM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
I wrote that he gave his views on Iraq. His personal views does not necessarily mean truth of the situation...He probably didn't know any more about Iraq than the rest of us regular citizens.

Actually what you said:

“...he allowed his views on Iraq to be published after his death...too bad he didn't do the same and come clean about the Warren Commission's JFK assassination findings [emphasis mine]” Ibid.

In fact, he did do that same. He did publish his views on the Warren Commission’s findings. My guess is that the only way for Ford to “come clean” in your world is for him to tell you what you want to hear, right. What I mean is that, unless he tells you that there was some conspiracy to kill JFK, you won't accept what he says?
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Originally posted by cartoon:
Just to clarify, Specter was an attorney who worked for the commission -- along with several other miscellaneous and varied staff. He was not a commissioner. Ford was the last Commissioner from the Warren Commission.

Thank you. I knew there was some reason why I was thinking he was the last Warren commissioner. Because he was.



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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Saturday, January 6, 2007 5:06 PM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Maybe, someday when Spector passes on, Americans may learn the truth about that cabal that lied to America about the coup d'etat that occurred in 1963. I don't think Stone was too far off in some of his assertions in the JFK film.

Assasination of presidents that you don't agree with is one of the few American traditions.
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Other "truths" owed to the American people someday
I can answer at least some of these:
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4) How did Israel "mistakenly" sink and destroy the USS Liberty?
They didn't, they attacked it but the Liberty was not sunk.
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5) How and why did the USA abandon the crew of the captured USS Pueblo, allowing the N. Koreans to torture our men for months?
Because you can't just invade a country with a million man army backed by the Soviet Union in the middle of the cold war?
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6) Why did it take 400+ days to free the American Embassey hostages in Teheran?
Politics?
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7) Why did Bush wait a month to go after the Taliban?
Maybe he really wanted Iraq? Maybe it takes time to get an operation together?
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8) Why did Bush sit there with those school kids after being told about the World Trade Center & Pentagon attacks?
Because he's incompetent and thought the presidency was just going to be an easy ride his dad had arranged for him. Besides Cheyne wasn't around to tell him how to react.
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9) How & why did our alliance and friendship with the USSR go to pieces immediately after Germany's surrender?
I think you'll find it went to peices long before Germany's surrender, it's just we had a common enemy. It's fairly common actually, people band together against a common enemy then when the enemies gone they're at each others throats.
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10) Who gave the USSR the bomb?
Nazi Germany. Hitler was developing nuclear weapons during the second world war, and may have completed the research first if it wasn't for British commandos destroying the heavy water facillities, and of course Germany's defeat.

Simply put the Russians took back German research, and completed it.
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11) Who gave Israel the bomb?
Israel developed Nuclear weapons themselves in a joint program with the French. Or did they *shifty eyes*.
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12) Who gave India the bomb?
They developed it themselves. Come on, do you really think that Americans are the only people on Earth intelligent enough to make nuclear weapons? Does everyone else in the world wait with bated breath for the US to decide to lift them out of the stoneage?

In fact as far as weapons go nuclear one's really aren't that complex. There's probably enough information on the net for anyone with the will and mathematical abillity to build a simple one, the trick would be obtaining the nuclear materials.
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13) Why did the USA barely wait a couple of days before dropping the 2nd atom bomb on Nagasaki?
Why not?
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14) How & why did Pearl Harbor happen, if British Intelligence had supposedly already broken the Japanese code and given it to America?
It's not like the Japanese were screaming at the tops of their lungs about it, the idea of a sneak attack is to keep it secret, from everyone, including most of the people doing the attacking.
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15) Why didn't Rhett give Scarlett another chance?
Rhett was an arse hole.



More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

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Saturday, January 6, 2007 5:10 PM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Cartoon...thanks for your intelligent clarification of Spector's role.


You're welcome.

Although, I was alive at the time (a wee lad, mind you), the only reason I know about Specter is because he's one of the Senators from my state.

I wouldn't be surprised if other members of the Commission's staff were still living, as well -- although, I don't know.

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Saturday, January 6, 2007 5:25 PM

Citizen......good stuff, and thank's for the correction on the Liberty.

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Saturday, January 6, 2007 5:29 PM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Citizen......good stuff, and thank's for the correction on the Liberty.


Np, also if you take a look at the wikipedia page (not the most accurate of sources I grant you but can still be useful) lists some of the proposed reasons why it may have been deliberate, plus the arguments for and against:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident



More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

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Monday, September 5, 2022 4:35 AM

A Young Joe Biden Mocked Gerald Ford's 'Whip Inflation Now' Slogan. Now He Faces His Own Inflation Mess.

https://reason.com/?p=8199632

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Friday, March 24, 2023 6:59 AM

Sometimes I think it was Ford and that other elite family that truly flushed America's Freedom down the toilet

Rockefeller descendants sell 210-acre Willistown property for $24M
https://www.bizjournals.com/philadelphia/news/2023/03/23/rockefeller-w
illistown-farm-sold-chester-county.html


That Big City
and for a while it was a nice place

Roller Rink Returns to Rockefeller Center in the crime ridden shithole city this April
https://news.yahoo.com/roller-rink-returns-rockefeller-center-18042450
6.html

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Thursday, September 19, 2024 3:09 PM

sold the USA to the Rockefeller family an American industrial, political, oil and banking family


not as powerful as they once were ...difficult to know who bailed the USA out in the 2007-2009 crash


New theory on Michael Rockefeller’s fate in New Guinea

https://thethaiger.com/world/news/603865/

Luar Brought The Fashion Freaks – and Madonna! – To Rockefeller Center

https://www.vogue.co.uk/article/luar-ss25-nyfw

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Tuesday, September 24, 2024 3:17 AM

The Heresies of Masonic Ritual
https://europeanconservative.com/articles/essay/the-heresies-of-masoni
c-ritual
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public officials from Western New York, including State Supreme Court Justice Ronald H. Tills, two retired police officers and a law clerk, were convicted of human trafficking for transporting a prostitute for a Royal Order of Jesters event.
According to federal prosecutors, the Jesters frequently employed strippers and prostitutes at their parties, with some of the prostitutes being illegally transported over state lines for Jesters events. The FBI has investigated these cases.


The order is very secretive and holds an anti-publicity policy. For example, a website made by one of its members was removed after the intervention of the national court of the Order. The primary reason behind this was the desire of the Board to minimize public exposure or public access to Jester information. Billiken is a charm doll created by an American art teacher and illustrator, Florence Pretz of Kansas City, Missouri, who is said to have seen the mysterious figure in a dream
https://web.archive.org/web/20090113154757/http://sandyfrost.newsvine.
com/_news/2008/12/06/2184088-ex-jesters-confirm-sam-houston-e-mail

There is also a pedophile demon Billiken statue on the campus of Saint Louis University

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