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Tuesday, August 16, 2022 9:57 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I already posted about this, stupid.


11 days ago.

August 6th: http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=65197

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You missed the point that Abortion is Murder. There is no compromising with Murder or Murderers. That is the end of the story, except when law enforcement starts treating Abortion as the same as Murder. After a delay of 50 years, and many arrests and deaths, Ireland amended its Constitution so that Abortion is NOT the same as Murder. To arrive at that sane place, there had to be story after story after story for decade after decade after decade before the Irish majority would undo what should have never have become the law of Ireland in the first place.

Indiana is on the same path as Ireland, but Indiana is 50 years behind Ireland. Eventually, Indiana will very slowly figure out what the Irish figured out after 50 years of abortion laws demanding that all Irish live in a state of stupidity, nonsense, suffering and death.

Indiana becomes first state post-Roe to pass law banning most abortions
https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/05/politics/indiana-state-house-abortion-b
ill/index.html


The Indiana House and Senate passed the GOP-sponsored bill earlier Friday. Just "another radical step by Republican legislators to take away women's reproductive rights and freedom, and put personal health care decisions in the hands of politicians rather than women and their doctors."

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Wednesday, August 17, 2022 12:31 AM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I already posted about this, stupid.


11 days ago.

August 6th: http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=65197

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You missed the point that Abortion is Murder.



I didn't miss that point. You just didn't put my whole quote. Allow me to put it here, with the pertinent part underlined:

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See Ted, Second and Cap'n?

THIS is how you show that you have half a brain and aren't some mindless mouthpiece for your corrupt party.

Indiana Republicans led by Holcomb really fucked the pooch here.

And it's not just political... I say all of this when you know full well what my PERSONAL opinions on abortion are regardless of what anybody on any point of the political spectrum thinks about them.



You know full well by now that I view abortion as murder. But we live in a society that for the most part doesn't agree with my opinion on this matter, so long as it's done early and it is safe, legal and rare.

I blasted the fuck out of Indiana Republicans in that post, as well as the post that came right after it. 11 whole days before you were even aware this was an issue.

Fuck Indiana Republicans. Fuck Eric Holcomb.

I voted against him.



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Friday, August 26, 2022 2:46 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

You know full well by now that I view abortion as murder.

Republicans in the Texas Legislature agree with you.

Texas’s penalty for rape is only 5+ years prison and a $10K fine, but under GOP’s new abortion ban, Texas’s penalty for providing an abortion to a woman impregnated by a rapist is life in prison and a $100K fine

Texas GOP: Protecting rapists, punishing doctors who support rape survivors

2:01 PM · Aug 25, 2022·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/QasimRashid/status/1562877925997047808

Texas’ new law prohibiting all abortions from the moment of fertilization takes effect today.

Doctors now face life in prison and at least $100,000 in penalties if they perform the procedure.

https://www.texastribune.org/2022/08/25/texas-trigger-law-abortion/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, August 29, 2022 11:06 PM

When Does Life Begin? As State Laws Define It, Science, Politics and Religion Clash

For decades, the U.S. medical system has adhered to a legally recognized standard for death, one embraced by most states. Why is a uniform standard for the start of human life proving so elusive?

After decades of deliberations involving physicians, bioethicists, attorneys, and theologians, a U.S. presidential commission in 1981 settled on a scientifically derived dividing line between life and death that has endured, more or less, ever since: A person was considered dead when the entire brain — including the brainstem, its most primitive portion — was no longer functioning, even if other vital functions could be maintained indefinitely through artificial life support.

Now, with the overturning of Roe v. Wade and dozens of states rushing to impose abortion restrictions, American society is engaged in a chaotic race to define the other pole of human existence: When exactly does human life begin? At conception, the hint of a heartbeat, a first breath, the ability to survive outside the womb with the help of the latest technology?

A legal and political maelstrom

That we've been able to devise and apply uniform clinical standards for when life ends, but not when it begins, is due largely to the legal and political maelstrom around abortion.

When life begins is up to whoever is running your state — whether you agree with them or not.

State legislators are eagerly bounding into that void, looking to codify into law assorted definitions of life that carry profound repercussions for abortion rights, birth control, and assisted reproduction, as well as civil and criminal law.

"The court said that when life begins is up to whoever is running your state — whether they are wrong or not, or you agree with them or not," said Mary Ziegler, a law professor at the University of California-Davis who has written several books on the history of abortion.

More at https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/08/27/1119684376/when-d
oes-life-begin-as-state-laws-define-it-science-politics-and-religion-clash



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, August 29, 2022 11:23 PM

If you had your way they'd be chopping off babies heads after they were born.

How many literal bodies do you have in your closet, psycho?

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Tuesday, August 30, 2022 1:05 AM

According to many Republicans, human life begins at conception and ends at birth.

According to many left-wing authoritarians, many people aren't even human beings.

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Tuesday, August 30, 2022 5:37 AM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
According to many Republicans, human life begins at conception and ends at birth.

According to many left-wing authoritarians, many people aren't even human beings.

The implied rights held by a legally recognized zygote are potentially vast. Will death certificates be issued for every lost pregnancy? Will miscarriages be investigated by a homicide detective? When will Social Security numbers be issued? How will census counts be tallied and congressional districts drawn? Even carpooling will change:

Pregnant Texas driver argues fetus is passenger after carpool fine
https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20220711-pregnant-texas-driver-a
rgues-fetus-is-passenger-after-carpool-fine


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, August 30, 2022 5:54 AM

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Pregnant Texas driver argues fetus is passenger after carpool fine
https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20220711-pregnant-texas-driver-a
rgues-fetus-is-passenger-after-carpool-fine



We're going to watch you fantasize that men are women and women are men and nobody who isn't a Biologist that was brainwashed in Uni is even qualified to tell you what men and women are for the last 6 years and you think anybody is going to have a problem with this one?

The Democrats and the Legacy Media are the ones who have spent over half a decade warping reality while you cheered it on. Calling certain riots insurrections while calling other, far more dangerous riots causing hundreds of millions of dollars in property damage peaceful protests.

Don't be surprised then when nothing is real anymore.

That is your legacy.




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Tuesday, August 30, 2022 5:59 PM

Trends have put Republicans from Michigan to Arizona on the defensive, forcing those in competitive races who have taken rigid stances against abortion rights to soften them or risk drawing the ire of a motivated segment of the electorate.

The latest example came from Arizona Senate candidate Blake Masters, who recently scrubbed his website of his support of a "federal personhood law" and a host of other strict anti-abortion positions. Masters' website previously said he was "100% pro-life" and noted his support for a constitutional amendment that "recognizes unborn babies are human being that may not be killed" and a slew of other legislation that would make it illegal to perform an abortion.

He is far from alone, however.

Michigan congressional candidate Tom Barrett reportedly branded himself "100% pro life -- no exceptions," a position he touted on the "values" section of his campaign website. "Protecting individual rights includes protecting the unborn," the website read, adding that he and his wife had "been involved in the pro-life movement our entire lives" and pledging that as an elected leader, he will "always work to protect life from conception."

The values section from the website was scrubbed after the Kansas election on abortion rights results.

The Republican party is "trying to mislead voters and hide their deeply unpopular positions on abortion rights. They know that voters are willing to hold responsible the people who take away their rights and they are concerned about their elections," said Christina Reynolds, a top operative at Emily's List, a Democratic organization that works to elect women who support abortion rights.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/29/politics/republicans-shift-abortion-pos
itions-general-election/index.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, August 30, 2022 6:31 PM

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Originally posted by second:
Trends have put Republicans from Michigan to Arizona on the defensive, forcing those in competitive races who have taken rigid stances against abortion rights to soften them or risk drawing the ire of a motivated segment of the electorate.

The latest example came from Arizona Senate candidate Blake Masters, who recently scrubbed his website of his support of a "federal personhood law" and a host of other strict anti-abortion positions. Masters' website previously said he was "100% pro-life" and noted his support for a constitutional amendment that "recognizes unborn babies are human being that may not be killed" and a slew of other legislation that would make it illegal to perform an abortion.

He is far from alone, however.



Moral of the story:

Republicans are capable of learning from their mistakes and don't continue to double down on them every fucking day like Democrats do.

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