Alas, poor Europe. I knew it well, Horatio.
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UPDATED: Tuesday, August 18, 2026 23:33
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SECOND: You already agreed that Russia is not responsible for gas shortage.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
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Originally posted by SignyM:
SECOND: You already agreed that Russia is not responsible for gas shortage.
And they sure as sht had nothing to do with invading Ukraine! I mean, none of this would have happened if Ukraine hadn't invaded Ukraine! A-holes! :lol:
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Originally posted by SignyM:
SECOND: You already agreed that Russia is not responsible for gas shortage.
And they sure as sht had nothing to do with invading Ukraine! I mean, none of this would have happened if Ukraine hadn't invaded Ukraine! A-holes! :lol:
Actually if you look at the timeline that I posted, Germany changed it's energy policy in 2011. Educate yourself.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
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Quote:I will forever treasure Signym's one sentence: "You already agreed that Russia is not responsible for gas shortage." NO! I did NOT agree! That sentence from Signym is absolute proof that what I write does NOT get understood by Signym the Meat Robot.
Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
SECOND: You already agreed that Russia is not responsible for gas shortage.
And they sure as sht had nothing to do with invading Ukraine! I mean, none of this would have happened if Ukraine hadn't invaded Ukraine! A-holes! :lol:
There is a lovely article "About Ourselves: We Are Not Even Wrong". It explains how the Meat Robots such as 6ix and Signym that live among the Humans misunderstand the Humans.
https://3quarksdaily.com/3quarksdaily/2022/08/about-ourselves-we-are-n
ot-even-wrong.html
It is not at all surprising that the Meat Robots don't prosper compared to their slightly more evolved neighbors, the Humans. For example, the Russians, a nation almost exclusively made of Meat Robots, has not prospered compared to the Finns, when measured by GDP per Capita. Meat Robots live stupid lives, then they die young, which is why Putin is offering medals to Hero Mothers who give birth to 10 or more live Meat Robots. If one of the ten Robot Babies dies, Mama gets no medal unless the Robot Baby died in War with Ukraine.
https://countryeconomy.com/countries/compare/russia/finland
Putin revives Soviet ‘Mother Heroine’ award for women who have 10 children
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/08/17/russia-ukraine-putin-m
other-heroine-award-children/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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SECOND: I will forever treasure Signym's one sentence: "You already agreed that Russia is not responsible for gas shortage." NO! I did NOT agree! That sentence from Signym is absolute proof that what I write does NOT get understood by Signym the Meat Robot.
I can see not answering, even for quite a while ... busy (as I was), or disinterested in continuing. But when you post one wall of gibberish and then post a DIFFERENT wall of gibberish (and then another, and another) you've pretty much given up on your first point. And while you may not have the honesty to say it outright, you've agreed with the rebuttal.
So ...
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SECOND: "When trade endangers national security. Europe and the Economics of Blackmail" [RUSSIA!RUSSIA!]
SECOND: Russia has been reducing the supply of natural gas to Europe since last year
SIGNY: [detailed timeline of gas supply events in Europe demonstrating the Russia has NOT reduced gas supplies to Europe until just the past few weeks]
SECOND: "... the human race. The majority are stupid, lazy, ignorant, dishonest, greedy and ... It is no surprise when a democracy makes stupid decisions" [The fault is democracy]
SIGNY: So basically this " crises" is of the EU's own making, and has nothing to do with Russia? And of course you blame this all on "democracy" ...
SECOND: [No clarification or rebuttal] "It is pretty clear you have never been around people in a real life or death emergency ." [WTF does that have to do with anything?]
SIGNY: "The EU's crisis is a slow-moving self-generated train wreck. The EU did it, the EU can undo it. The decision-makers don't want to. You'd have to ask them why not."
SECOND: "I will spell it out for you. The people in charge, "leaders," come from the same sad genetic background as the "followers" do." [Now the fault is the genetics of the leaders?]
SIGNY: "Yanno, I get about one sentence in to each of your replies and I stumble on something so self-contradictory I have to stop.
Let's parse this.
So, it's not RUSSIA!RUSIA! causing Europe's crisis. You agree with me on that.
And it's not "democracy" causing Europe's crisis. You agree with me on that, too!
Now it's the elite's genetics??!?"
SECOND: "...meat robots ..."
It seems you're ready to toss any old crap at the board except what actually happened. Gazprom and Rosneft have done everything in their power to deliver cheap dependable oil and reliable gas to their customers, including proposing, starting, and even completing requested pipelines, only to have those prospects stalled or discontinued, gas not paid for, products sanctioned, payment processing sanctioned etc. They have apolitically fulfilled every contract that they signed. But at THIS point, years into this "not-agreement-capable" behavior from the west, I think Russia finally realized that the west was using energy as a weapon against THEM.
AFA Germany is concerned, I've been following their energy policy off and on since Fukushima. I recall the day when they celebrated 50% of their power coming from solar and wind. I also recall detailed calculations that they made on their electricity costs, and how they would need CHEAP gas to remain competitive in manufacturing. Their decision to seek pipeline gas from Russia was an economic one, not a political one. Now their decisions seem to be all ideological, no reality intrudes.
Yes, nations "should" be as independent as possible, producing what they can and trading what they must. But if you're committed to low-carbon en
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Back to topic: The EU is imploding economically, thanks to fantastical energy and de-industrialization policies. It imploded militarily a long time ago, depending on the USA to protect it so they could afford niceties like nationalized medical care and free education. Socially, they've discarded their national cultures. Financially, they've given control up to The Troika, many EU nations with extremely high debt burdens. And politically, the EU nations have (mostly) given up their independence to that great bloated bureaucratic borg that squats in Brussels.
Let's track what happens to the EU, shall we? And see what lessons we can derive from their experience.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Back to topic: The EU is imploding economically, thanks to fantastical energy and de-industrialization policies. It imploded militarily a long time ago, depending on the USA to protect it so they could afford niceties like nationalized medical care and free education. Socially, they've discarded their national cultures. Financially, they've given control up to The Troika, many EU nations with extremely high debt burdens. And politically, the EU nations have (mostly) given up their independence to that great bloated bureaucratic borg that squats in Brussels.
Let's track what happens to the EU, shall we? And see what lessons we can derive from their experience.
Yup. And let's stop making the printing press here go BRRRRRR and fund NATO too.
That bullshit ends soon.
Tick Tock.
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Oh, and at the end of the day it's going to be China that owns Europe...
And Russia too.
Here's a reenactment of you dumb shits and your obsession with Russia and Putin.
Ted gets it, because his brain works in 2D.
But for the other two worms, the bat that gets squashed is Russia, and the big hand is the CCP.
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Quote:I think a comic is completely on topic because many people and their countries are directionless and drifting through life and time, with no particular plans other than the vague pursue of happiness, but also clearly pursuing the path of least resistance. The path of least resistance is what makes rivers run crooked.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Back to topic: The EU is imploding economically, thanks to fantastical energy and de-industrialization policies. It imploded militarily a long time ago, depending on the USA to protect it so they could afford niceties like nationalized medical care and free education. Socially, they've discarded their national cultures. Financially, they've given control up to The Troika, many EU nations with extremely high debt burdens. And politically, the EU nations have (mostly) given up their independence to that great bloated bureaucratic borg that squats in Brussels.
Let's track what happens to the EU, shall we? And see what lessons we can derive from their experience.
SMBC is a daily comic strip about life, philosophy, science, and mathematics. Recently, the comic had a point to make about meat robots muddling through life.
https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/muddle
Bob: Do you think it’s better to accept your place in a web of human relations or to pursue a transcendent authentic self-hood?
Alice: That’s a false choice.
Bob: You think you can do both?
Alice: I can do neither.
Alice: My life plan is to never make peace with society’s perception of me nor come to a contented state of personal understanding.
Alice: I’m just gonna muddle through, Baby! I’m gonna be awkward, never reflect, play video games nights and weekends, and run out the clock on this future corpse.
Bob: My God.
Bob: This is an entirely new way of being.
Alice: No no, everyone does it, they just don’t realize.
The Philosopher: The key is first to realize this and then decide it’s a belief system.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Originally posted by second:Quote:I think a comic is completely on topic because many people and their countries are directionless and drifting through life and time, with no particular plans other than the vague pursue of happiness, but also clearly pursuing the path of least resistance. The path of least resistance is what makes rivers run crooked.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Back to topic: The EU is imploding economically, thanks to fantastical energy and de-industrialization policies. It imploded militarily a long time ago, depending on the USA to protect it so they could afford niceties like nationalized medical care and free education. Socially, they've discarded their national cultures. Financially, they've given control up to The Troika, many EU nations with extremely high debt burdens. And politically, the EU nations have (mostly) given up their independence to that great bloated bureaucratic borg that squats in Brussels.
Let's track what happens to the EU, shall we? And see what lessons we can derive from their experience.
SMBC is a daily comic strip about life, philosophy, science, and mathematics. Recently, the comic had a point to make about meat robots muddling through life.
https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/muddle
Bob: Do you think it’s better to accept your place in a web of human relations or to pursue a transcendent authentic self-hood?
Alice: That’s a false choice.
Bob: You think you can do both?
Alice: I can do neither.
Alice: My life plan is to never make peace with society’s perception of me nor come to a contented state of personal understanding.
Alice: I’m just gonna muddle through, Baby! I’m gonna be awkward, never reflect, play video games nights and weekends, and run out the clock on this future corpse.
Bob: My God.
Bob: This is an entirely new way of being.
Alice: No no, everyone does it, they just don’t realize.
The Philosopher: The key is first to realize this and then decide it’s a belief system.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
The above is what happens when you've lived a life with no adversity.
And I mean REAL adversity. Not the fabricated teen angst drama bullshit that is forced on kids in public schools.
This is why we know your fictional character Second is a poorly written character.
Because the person behind the avatar and the Second handle is the meat robot Alice in real life.
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