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Quote:Capitalism is NOT about caring for people. By the way, if you are the the landlord, never give back the security deposit. Your tenants will use that money to pay for moving out, but you want their next move to be as painful as possible so that they will stay and pay you 20% more than they were paying last month. Capitalism is a beautiful system if you are a landlord (or landlady).
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Don't pretend to care now. I'm making fun of YOU here.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Capitalism is NOT about caring for people. By the way, if you are the the landlord, never give back the security deposit. Your tenants will use that money to pay for moving out, but you want their next move to be as painful as possible so that they will stay and pay you 20% more than they were paying last month. Capitalism is a beautiful system if you are a landlord (or landlady).
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Don't pretend to care now. I'm making fun of YOU here.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
We know dude. You hate Capitalism.
So what is your alternative suggestion then?
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Quote:I don't think you will ever correctly understand this, but the elected governments in the states of the USA have almost zero control over the Capitalists who actual run the economies of their states. Governments change hands but your vote every other year will change almost nothing because the Capitalists are really in charge, not the government.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I've been talking about rent prices along with all the other ways Americans are being financially fucked all year long.
You're only finally piping up about it because your Legacy Media Masters have conceded that it is a problem and they finally put together a list of apologistic propaganda for idiots like you to parrot.
I figured out all of this was coming decades ago. I didn't know when, but I knew it would. One might argue that I did too good in preparation, giving me a means to destroy myself for 5 years without being thrown out on my own ass without a nickel to my name.
But I woke up earlier than most. I'm hoping now that a lot of others are finally waking up they don't go right back to sleep whenever (and if ever) a more competent governing body comes along to fix what the current regime broke.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Quote:Why change to an alternative when the system is not broken for Capitalists? But it might be nicer if Capitalists were forced to pay all their income taxes. (About $1 trillion per year in taxes are not collected.) For now the richest people only pay whatever they feel like paying. They aren't being audited to discover how much they actually owe.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:Capitalism is NOT about caring for people. By the way, if you are the the landlord, never give back the security deposit. Your tenants will use that money to pay for moving out, but you want their next move to be as painful as possible so that they will stay and pay you 20% more than they were paying last month. Capitalism is a beautiful system if you are a landlord (or landlady).
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Don't pretend to care now. I'm making fun of YOU here.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
We know dude. You hate Capitalism.
So what is your alternative suggestion then?
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Originally posted by second:Quote:I don't think you will ever correctly understand this, but the elected governments in the states of the USA have almost zero control over the Capitalists who actual run the economies of their states. Governments change hands but your vote every other year will change almost nothing because the Capitalists are really in charge, not the government.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I've been talking about rent prices along with all the other ways Americans are being financially fucked all year long.
You're only finally piping up about it because your Legacy Media Masters have conceded that it is a problem and they finally put together a list of apologistic propaganda for idiots like you to parrot.
I figured out all of this was coming decades ago. I didn't know when, but I knew it would. One might argue that I did too good in preparation, giving me a means to destroy myself for 5 years without being thrown out on my own ass without a nickel to my name.
But I woke up earlier than most. I'm hoping now that a lot of others are finally waking up they don't go right back to sleep whenever (and if ever) a more competent governing body comes along to fix what the current regime broke.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
"Capitalist" is such a vague term. The way you use it implies some intangible bogey man.
You want to fix Capitalism? Spoiler Alert: You're not going to do it by hiring 87,000 more IRS agents.
The root of the problem is that most of our government is bought and paid for. It's not just the Biden* family and Nancy Pelosi or the entire Democratic party that commits insider trading right before our very eyes, but it's politicians that get rich while in office on both sides of the aisle.
They need to be purged. They need to be imprisoned. They need to have their ill-gotten assets frozen and re-distributed to the taxpayers who they've swindled.
We need people in office who represent the people. Not life-long seats held by people who don't give a fuck about America or Americans and get rich off of us while allowing the Corps to get away with murder.
Capitalism is the best system we've got. The problem now is that we're in a mutated system of Predatory Capitalism, and the regulations and taxes that have been imposed on normal people make it almost insurmountable to start up any potential competition for the big boys because after operating costs, compliance with regulations and the extremely heavy burden for running a small business, there's usually nothing left to make it a worthwhile venture. And that's just for the lucky ones that don't immediately find themselves under water after they made all that money for the Government to spend on dumb shit and/or shit that most Americans don't want any money being spent on.
Come on, man! Do you really believe that these pigs would have voted for all that IRS money to take down the Corporations that feed them? There's not a chance in hell that OUR money they're going to spend on that is going to force their masters to pay more in taxes.
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Quote:Have you heard of these companies?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Capitalism is the best system we've got. The problem now is that we're in a mutated system of Predatory Capitalism, and the regulations and taxes that have been imposed on normal people make it almost insurmountable to start up any potential competition for the big boys because after operating costs, compliance with regulations and the extremely heavy burden for running a small business, there's usually nothing left to make it a worthwhile venture. And that's just for the lucky ones that don't immediately find themselves under water after they made all that money for the Government to spend on dumb shit and/or shit that most Americans don't want any money being spent on.
Apple Inc. (AAPL) Index Weighting: 7.1% ...
Microsoft Corp. (MSFT) Index Weighting: 6.0% ...
Amazon.com, Inc. ( AMZN) Index Weighting: 3.7% ...
Tesla, Inc. (TSLA) Index Weighting: 2.4% ...
Alphabet Inc. Class A (GOOGL) ... It is Google
Nvidia Corp. (NVDA) ...
Berkshire Hathaway Inc. (BRK.B)
https://www.investopedia.com/top-10-s-and-p-500-stocks-by-index-weight
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Each has a founder (or two) who was NOT rich when he founded the company. Most of the founders have written books or given lectures or tweeted to explain how they got rich. I don't know a single Trumptard who every read these guys or knows how Capitalism actually works. The Trumptard's version of Capitalism matches perfectly with how Trump got rich: by cheating people who rent from him, by selling them fake diplomats from Trump University, by cheating on his taxes, by going bankrupt to avoid repayment, etc.
Trumptards completely misunderstand how successful Capitalists got rich, but it is not like how Trump did it. Trump is "Predatory Capitalism" personified. But since you don't understand that about Trump, what can you understand about how Capitalism works? From my experience, most people cannot understand what is happening out in the open, all around them, all the time. And they certainly cannot join the Capitalist Game because they cannot understand how it is played by the most competent people. Trump is NOT one of those competent people.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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It's so annoying when people use terms they don't understand and couldn't define if challenged: Nazi, fascism, democracy, liberal, freedom, man, woman, racism ... capitalism...
Words don't mean whatever you "want" them to mean. Unless there are commonly accepted definitions, communication is impossible.
Your examples of "real" capitalism lack the one thing that makes capitalism work better than feudalism or socialism (at least in theory): competition. Bc your "real" capitalists have done all they can to eliminate the competition as much as possible.
Some of them produce nothing of value, like Buffet (who got wealthy simply by buying stuff) and Gates (ditto. Gates BTW started out with a million dollars and his mom's contacts into IBM).
They could be variously described as monopolists and/or financialists, and - since our government bends over backwards to promote these monopolists, our entire system might be described as fascist or oligarchy, but "capitalism" isn't the word to use.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
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Quote:I'll give you some examples of real Capitalism in action. The first is from a news story this week:
Originally posted by SignyM:
It's so annoying when people use terms they don't understand and couldn't define if challenged: Nazi, fascism, democracy, liberal, freedom, man, woman, racism ... capitalism...
Words don't mean whatever you "want" them to mean. Unless there are commonly accepted definitions, communication is impossible.
Your examples of "real" capitalism lack the one thing that makes capitalism work better than feudalism or socialism (at least in theory): competition. Bc your "real" capitalists have done all they can to eliminate the competition as much as possible.
Some of them produce nothing of value, like Buffet (who got wealthy simply by buying stuff) and Gates (ditto. Gates BTW started out with a million dollars and his mom's contacts into IBM).
They could be variously described as monopolists and/or financialists, and - since our government bends over backwards to promote these monopolists, our entire system might be described as fascist or oligarchy, but "capitalism" isn't the word to use.
Two cases of Predatory Capitalism, but unless some external force intervenes, all Capitalism becomes Predatory.
1) In the first case of Predatory Capitalism, the law allowed Ford to sell a dangerous vehicle. America is Capitalistic, therefore Ford sold the dangerous vehicle because, you know, that is where the money is made, at least until the loss of money encouraged Ford to stop selling dangerous vehicles:
Ford hit with $1.7 billion verdict for F-series pickup roof collapse that killed couple
For years the National Highway Transportation Safety Administration had exempted heavy-duty trucks like the F-250 from the same safety standards as passenger cars and trucks. It wasn't a change in the NHTSA standard, but potential pickup buyers doing research on the vehicle's safety record that finally prompted Ford to put a stronger roof on both the F-150 and F-250.
The punitive damages were awarded because Ford knew well in advance of the 2014 crash that it had a problem with the roof, Butler said. He said Ford's engineers had already designed a safer roof, but the automaker did not move immediately to install it on the trucks.
"Long before the Hills were killed, Ford was on notice from their own engineers, own crash tests and dozens of accidents that people were being killed, and it did nothing," Butler said.
Ford would not comment on Butler's statement that the older F-150's and F-250's have similar roofs at danger of collapse. It did say it intends to appeal the huge verdict.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/22/business/ford-1-7-billion-dollar-verdic
t/index.html
2) Payday loans, which tend to have 400% or higher annual interest rates, were illegal, as they should be, but then the Texas legislature made them legal. Because America is Capitalistic, loan companies will make 400% interest rate payday loans because, you know, Capitalism is all about money. Why be satisfied with a mere 29% when you can charge 400%? 400% is Capitalism at its best:
The History of Payday Loans in Texas
The 1990s – Early in the 90s payday loan practices were illegal in Texas.
2001 – The Texas Legislature adopted payday lending standards under the authority of the Texas Office of Consumer Credit Commissioner (OCCC). However, lenders in Texas found ways to circumvent state limits: a usury cap of 10% interest and a maximum 136% APR rate for a 2-week, $300 loan. Payday lenders managed to find a loophole where they became “Credit Services Organizations” (CSOs). They did so by claiming regulation under the Texas Credit Services Organizations (CSO) Act (passed in 1987). Thus, they went on charging excessive fees to loans.
https://www.ustatesloans.org/law/tx/
3) to Infinity:
There are many examples of Predatory Capitalism. Every price increase is a Capitalist probing the wal
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This is Capitalism at its finest, doing what it was designed to do -- concentrate wealth.
Profits and the pandemic: As shareholder wealth soared, workers were left behind
https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/Pandemic_Profits_
report.pdf
Company shareholders grew $1.5 trillion richer, while workers got less than 2% of that benefit
Far from curbing inequality, the modest gains to workers were dwarfed by the gains to already wealthy shareholders, including executives and billionaires.
• In the first 22 months of the pandemic, the companies generated $1.5 trillion in wealth gains for shareholders-nearly triple the wealth generated in the previous 22-month period. In comparison, 7 million workers at these companies earned about $27 billion in additional pay (raises, profit sharing, and Covid-specific pay)-or just 2% of shareholders’ wealth gains.
• More than 70% of the wealth generated for U.S. shareholders (over $800 billion) benefitted the richest 5% percent of Americans, or 6 million families. Only 1 % ($12 billion) accrued to the bottom half of all American families-the category that likely includes nearly all of these frontline workers.
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Capitalists are stingy to employees and generous to themselves and stockholders because that is what successful Capitalists were meant to be.
Lowe's pays a median of $24,600.
In the pandemic it has made $12.6 billion in profit and put $13 billion into stock buybacks and dividends.
If it had given the money to employees, they would make $61,100.
Overall, companies have spent 5x more on shareholders than employees.
https://twitter.com/DanPriceSeattle/status/1556733332502839296
Home Depot pays a median of $27,400.
In the pandemic it made $23.7 billion in profit and put $10.3 billion into stock buybacks.
If it had given that money to employees, they would make $48,000.
https://twitter.com/DanPriceSeattle/status/1556735388752007169
Target pays a median of $24,500.
In the pandemic it made $9.6 billion in profit and put $5 billion into stock buybacks.
It it had given that money to employees, they would make $36,800.
https://twitter.com/DanPriceSeattle/status/1556737743635578881
Best Buy pays a median of $30,500.
In the pandemic it made $3.8 billion in profit and put $2 billion into stock buybacks.
If it had given that money to employees, they would have made $50,000.
https://twitter.com/DanPriceSeattle/status/1556751310803898370
Dollar General pays its workers a median of $16,700.
In the pandemic it made a $3.8 billion profit and spent $4.5 billion on stock buybacks.
If that money went to workers, they would have made $35,400.
https://twitter.com/DanPriceSeattle/status/1556785862716936193
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